Chlorimne removal vitamin C

[KingJohnC]

here the owner or developer is responsible for the feed line between municipal at the street to the house. cost primarily shoved everyone on to pvc.

for the most part temp changes and ground movement pretty much dictates the material. copper would often shear with the freeze thaw cycles and we have enough trouble with the mains as it is.

edit : over 6 yrs we had our mains break 3 times. the entire block has been dug up in pieces yr over yr. the city might do the whole thing over again and replace it all.

Municipal works are to code when both municipality and contractor are in agreement.

 

[KingJohnC]

Bottled spring water will be just fine in your grow. Your soil and the microbes in it will work with the plant to control the ph of the rhizosphere. This is why organic growers don’t worry about the ph levels. To take it a step further, when using water with below 50 ppms ph becomes almost irrelevant, especially in your specific soil. I know this from education, and personal experience.

Bottled water gets expensive quickly, especially once you’re deep into flower and are having to give a gallon every couple days. I HIGHLY recommend picking up a cheap system like this:

With a system like that, water will no longer be a variable in your grow. It may be overkill but as @OGpapa said, I don’t trust people messing with my drinking water. There are multiple instances of municipal water managers tampering with the water supply then forging the water reports. It’s just not worth the headache. Not to mention, if you look at what’s “acceptable” for human consumption it’s horrifying. Just because it’s fit for consumption doesn’t mean it should be consumed.

Once you switch over to RO you will be able to smell and taste the chlorine/chloramine in your tap water. I drink at minimum, 64 ozs of water a day, usually closer to 128. Before my RO unit I would get stomach aches after so much tap water. After the RO unit I can drink as much as I want without ever feeling ill. That was enough for me. I don’t even give my dog tap water.

If the waste water is a concern you don’t have to drain it. You can run the line to a container and use that water for a variety of things like cleaning, watering the lawn, etc.

Good luck Chris, it makes me happy to see the progress you’re making!



Make sure to keep me updated when possible! Hopefully it’s positive changes!

what is the difference between your method and the standard grade solution to achieve 3ppm membrane filtration?

 

[KingJohnC]

I use this filter connected to water supply(hose). It does not alter ph.

10 micron filter

what do you appreciate most for the sediment removal qualities

 

[Keffka]

Happy to live in northern Europe. We have the same or better values out of the tap compared to bottled spring water in the stores. I've seen pretty horrible tap water measures in the states that you could almost chew. Some even over 1.0 EC, yuck!

Straight out of the tap here is like 25-50ppm, that's very close to RO water. We don't have chloramine's added either. In Aero I run RO but I could probably do well without using it aswell.

Cheers!

We pay a heavy toll for all this “freedom”. Our air, water, and land are all in rough shape. It has gotten better though. Before the 90s, rivers burned with ease, and you couldn’t find a place that wasn’t littered with waste and polluted with heavy metals.

 

[KingJohnC]

We pay a heavy toll for all this “freedom”. Our air, water, and land are all in rough shape. It has gotten better though. Before the 90s, rivers burned with ease, and you couldn’t find a place that wasn’t littered with waste and polluted with heavy metals.

`liberty

 

[OldMedUser]

Rather than try to respond to a bunch of different posts I'll just drop a few lines here about RO etc.

If you are on town/city water all it takes is a call to your town office or their works department to get detailed water quality reports sent by email for free. Many post basic reports at their town websites but don't go into a lot of detail.

If you have something like a 3 stage RO unit and it doesn't taste great you can replace the first, usually a plain 5µ filter, with a carbon filter that should be 5µ as well. Or shop around to get a 0.5µ carbon filter like I bought for the system I've yet to install. With city water there is very little turbidity but putting a cheap 1µ filter in front of the 0.5µ carbon filter will extend it's life and the life of all filters downstream of it.

We get our tap water from a dugout on the property that only gets filtered down to 5µ. It's also around 350-400ppm and pH 8+. If I fill a clean, white 5gal pail with cold water from the tap and let sit overnight there is a thin film of sediment on the bottom so finer filtration is needed for the RO system I'll be installing. I bought all new housings and filters so my feed water already filtered to 5µ first goes thru a 1µ plain filter then a standard carbon filter before it goes thru the 0.5µ carbon filter then the 75gal/day RO filter and on to the UV unit and a calcite filter to make it potable and taste good while adding back some minerals.

Of more concern to me for human health is the use of fluoride by some cities. Like chloramine a special filter is needed to get rid of that. It's not going to hurt your plants but the fluoride they add to water is actually a toxic waste product normally used as a pesticide. Naturally occurring fluoride is actually beneficial and does help prevent cavities and make for stronger bones but is a totally different chemical structure compared to what they add to tap water. I'm pretty sure money is changing hands under the table to convince cities to get rid of toxic waste that is very expensive for companies that produce it as a byproduct from industrial process to dispose of with current environmental standards.

Some cities like Vancouver, BC have excellent tap water that comes from a protected area in the mountains on the north side of the city. Buying bottled water for drinking there is a waste of money and your plants will do fine using it right from the tap. they used to use chlorine but I'm not sure what treatment it gets these days. For all I know they use chloramine and add fluoride these days.

If you don't know the quality of your water you should find out before investing in something you might not need. Probably 90% of people would benefit from cleaner water tho.

 

[Keffka]

Probably 90% of people would benefit from cleaner water tho

I agree with this. However, here in the US, the vast majority of adults are dehydrated on a daily basis. If people already aren’t concerned with getting an adequate amount of hydration, it’s tough to get them to take their water quality seriously.

I can’t preach hydration enough. It makes such a difference in how you feel and how your body works, and it’s still misunderstood. I like to tell my kids, proper hydration starts the day before. They roll their eyes obviously but if you need to be hydrated for something physical then you should be drinking adequate water days beforehand.

 

[OldMedUser]

I agree with this. However, here in the US, the vast majority of adults are dehydrated on a daily basis. If people already aren’t concerned with getting an adequate amount of hydration, it’s tough to get them to take their water quality seriously.

I can’t preach hydration enough. It makes such a difference in how you feel and how your body works, and it’s still misunderstood. I like to tell my kids, proper hydration starts the day before. They roll their eyes obviously but if you need to be hydrated for something physical then you should be drinking adequate water days beforehand.

Hydration is overdone by many to the detriment of their health.

I watched a Marketplace program I think it was about a year ago where they looked at how much added water a person needs and it wasn't no 8 extra cups a day. Most people get adequate water in their daily diet really only need to drink extra water when they feel thirsty or before extended physical exertion and that depends on the temperature and how much they are going to sweat.

Just good old water was the best way to hydrate too. Coconut water, sports drinks etc hydrated no better than it and many sports drinks have added sugar, artificial sweeteners, colourings etc that are no good for you and waste your money.

They had a doctor and sports specialist in on testing the people participating in the study so it had some validity.

I drink a 12oz mug of RO water with some table salt and some pink Himalayan salt added on top of the 8 cups of coffee a day. Plus about 2 cups of high protein milk, glass of juice with my Meta Mucil after a low fiber meal. I have low blood pressure the salt and caffeine help to keep up and diverticular pockets in my sigmoid colon causing a constriction the meta mucil helps prevent internal distress from.

If you drink so much water your urine is clear then you are drinking too much and diluting your electrolytes to dangerously low levels. That can cause heart problems and even death when undergoing extreme exertion like long distance running unless you are taking salts and mineral supplements especially potassium to counteract the dilution.

All things in moderation.

 

[cbdhemp808]

It's always interesting to see different people's interpretation of things relating to diet and nutrition, including water intake.

I'd like to add that most people consume way too much salt, in the form of salt added to what they are cooking, and in terms of salt contained in processed packaged foods, and in restaurant food, etc. Sure, sodium and chloride ions are essential nutrients, but added salt – i.e. crystal form of sodium chloride – is a food additive, not a nutrient. I make this distinction because of two reasons: 1) salt in this form is highly addictive, and 2) the amount used in the food supply and "culturally" is beyond healthy amounts. Forget the FDA-approved amount of sodium per day – it's propaganda. And, if you are relying on salt for your daily minerals, you are making a mistake. It doesn't matter whether it's Morton's table salt, sea salt, Celtic sea salt, or pink Himalayan – it's all 97-99% sodium chloride crystals.

Excessive intake of salt causes a bunch of negative effects on the body. One of those is dehydration. So, I'm not surprised that doctor's recommend consuming liters of water per day. (With the ideal diet, you can get enough water from the food you are eating, but how many people have an ideal diet? It's a difficult thing to maintain.) Another effect of salt is high blood pressure. The combination of dehydration and high blood pressure can cause symptoms like: headaches, insomnia, nightmares, and stimulant-like effects (like caffeine). Both high blood pressure and dehydration are associated with many different serious negative effects on physiology.

The addictive nature of salt in the diet is so insidious that I think most people just can't overcome the addiction. They associate salt with flavor, and then it becomes a vicious cycle. I have some friends in this category, and I'm concerned about it, but... what can you say? They tend to just joke around about it, like it's no big deal. The older you get, the more of a big deal it becomes. What I recommend is to take a break from added salt, to see what it's like not to consume so much salt, but you have to be careful because A LOT OF THINGS that come in a package, container, or bottle contain added salt. If you do this test long enough, your body will come back into balance, and you'll feel a lot better. You will see just how much salt was affecting you.

A great way to cleanse the body of excess salt (and excess sugar by the way) is vigorous exercise that produces a lot of sweat. You can also balance your electrolytes by consuming high-postassium fruits, for example bananas in a smoothie.

 

[Keffka]

Hydration is overdone by many to the detriment of their health.

Many things are overdone to the detriment of one’s health. Balance is key in life. In my experience though I’ve encountered far more people who are severely under hydrated.

I can count on one hand the amount of laborers I’ve seen with water bottles. I have lost track of the amount I’ve seen with Mt Dews and Cokes, even when it’s a 100F day and we’re framing houses or roofing. Their sugary drinks give them just enough water to not pass out but they inevitably drag ass, complain about stomach issues, and can’t figure out why they feel so sluggish even with all that sugar and caffeine.

I watched a Marketplace program I think it was about a year ago where they looked at how much added water a person needs and it wasn't no 8 extra cups a day. Most people get adequate water in their daily diet really only need to drink extra water when they feel thirsty or before extended physical exertion and that depends on the temperature and how much they are going to sweat.

I wouldn’t say “most people” since this is wholly dependent on how you live your life. The majority of people I interact with work outdoors, and more often than not sweat for a living. They spend all day complaining of thirst while slamming back pops and sports drinks and consuming salty, fatty meals. So in my life, most people don’t get adequate water from their diet, they get just enough to not pass out.

However, in my BILs case, he is an executive for a large tech company. A life of meetings and PowerPoints. I imagine that in his world, most people do get adequate water from their diets.

Just good old water was the best way to hydrate too. Coconut water, sports drinks etc hydrated no better than it and many sports drinks have added sugar, artificial sweeteners, colourings etc that are no good for you and waste your money.

I really really wish more understood this. I’ve seen energy drinks labeled as “sports hydration drinks” that are loaded with sugars and caffeine. Grown adults I’ve spoken with say things like “I don’t like the taste of water so I prefer xyz” and I always find it slightly jarring. It makes me wonder whether those people have truly sweat hard because when I’m sweating hard the thought of sugar turns my stomach, but the taste of water is like being bathed in sunlight after a dark winter.

Some times, I wonder if it isn’t addiction. For instance, when I drank Coca Cola, I would crave it even after I just drank a whole can. Water didn’t taste good unless I was sweating hard, and I found that even when I drank water it still wasn’t satisfying me like the coke. Once I stopped the pop drinking though, it no longer appealed to me, and water began tasting better and better. Nowadays I drink tea if I want something other than water because even a sip of pop seems overpowering. I can definitely see being so used to sugary drinks that it makes water unappealing.

Life is crazy sometimes

drink a 12oz mug of RO water with some table salt and some pink Himalayan salt added on top of the 8 cups of coffee a day. Plus about 2 cups of high protein milk, glass of juice with my Meta Mucil after a low fiber meal. I have low blood pressure the salt and caffeine help to keep up and diverticular pockets in my sigmoid colon causing a constriction the meta mucil helps prevent internal distress from.

8 cups of coffee I’ve tried repeatedly to get into coffee. I have a fear of developing Alzheimer’s/dementia and quite a few studies have shown coffee drinkers tend to be more resilient against the build up in the brain. They’ve also shown that humans can consume quite a bit of caffeine with little to no negative side effects, but it’s in the context of coffee drinking. I assume caffeine pills and energy drinks don’t fall into this category.

If you drink so much water your urine is clear then you are drinking too much and diluting your electrolytes to dangerously low levels. That can cause heart problems and even death when undergoing extreme exertion like long distance running unless you are taking salts and mineral supplements especially potassium to counteract the dilution.

All things in moderation.

Balance. It’s always all about balance. Even the healthiest practices must be done in moderation with an eye on balance. We see it in the plants we grow and we feel it in our bodies.

Thanks for a good, respectful conversation!

 

[Keffka]

It's always interesting to see different people's interpretation of things relating to diet and nutrition, including water intake.

I'd like to add that most people consume way too much salt, in the form of salt added to what they are cooking, and in terms of salt contained in processed packaged foods, and in restaurant food, etc. Sure, sodium and chloride ions are essential nutrients, but added salt – i.e. crystal form of sodium chloride – is a food additive, not a nutrient. I make this distinction because of two reasons: 1) salt in this form is highly addictive, and 2) the amount used in the food supply and "culturally" is beyond healthy amounts. Forget the FDA-approved amount of sodium per day – it's propaganda. And, if you are relying on salt for your daily minerals, you are making a mistake. It doesn't matter whether it's Morton's table salt, sea salt, Celtic sea salt, or pink Himalayan – it's all 97-99% sodium chloride crystals.

Excessive intake of salt causes a bunch of negative effects on the body. One of those is dehydration. So, I'm not surprised that doctor's recommend consuming liters of water per day. (With the ideal diet, you can get enough water from the food you are eating, but how many people have an ideal diet? It's a difficult thing to maintain.) Another effect of salt is high blood pressure. The combination of dehydration and high blood pressure can cause symptoms like: headaches, insomnia, nightmares, and stimulant-like effects (like caffeine). Both high blood pressure and dehydration are associated with many different serious negative effects on physiology.

The addictive nature of salt in the diet is so insidious that I think most people just can't overcome the addiction. They associate salt with flavor, and then it becomes a vicious cycle. I have some friends in this category, and I'm concerned about it, but... what can you say? They tend to just joke around about it, like it's no big deal. The older you get, the more of a big deal it becomes. What I recommend is to take a break from added salt, to see what it's like not to consume so much salt, but you have to be careful because A LOT OF THINGS that come in a package, container, or bottle contain added salt. If you do this test long enough, your body will come back into balance, and you'll feel a lot better. You will see just how much salt was affecting you.

A great way to cleanse the body of excess salt (and excess sugar by the way) is vigorous exercise that produces a lot of sweat. You can also balance your electrolytes by consuming high-postassium fruits, for example bananas in a smoothie.

I never thought about the typical American diet and how it relates to water intake. It makes complete sense that American doctors would recommend the water intake they do with what our average diet consists of.

I always assumed it was based on a time when Americans were more physically active at work and home than they are currently. However I can see it making sense that as our diets have become full of more highly processed and high salt content foods that we would still need a higher amount of water than if we were on a Mediterranean style diet.

Thanks for your input and perspective, it’s always welcome!

 

[OldMedUser]

It's always interesting to see different people's interpretation of things relating to diet and nutrition, including water intake.

I'd like to add that most people consume way too much salt, in the form of salt added to what they are cooking, and in terms of salt contained in processed packaged foods, and in restaurant food, etc. Sure, sodium and chloride ions are essential nutrients, but added salt – i.e. crystal form of sodium chloride – is a food additive, not a nutrient. I make this distinction because of two reasons: 1) salt in this form is highly addictive, and 2) the amount used in the food supply and "culturally" is beyond healthy amounts. Forget the FDA-approved amount of sodium per day – it's propaganda. And, if you are relying on salt for your daily minerals, you are making a mistake. It doesn't matter whether it's Morton's table salt, sea salt, Celtic sea salt, or pink Himalayan – it's all 97-99% sodium chloride crystals.

Excessive intake of salt causes a bunch of negative effects on the body. One of those is dehydration. So, I'm not surprised that doctor's recommend consuming liters of water per day. (With the ideal diet, you can get enough water from the food you are eating, but how many people have an ideal diet? It's a difficult thing to maintain.) Another effect of salt is high blood pressure. The combination of dehydration and high blood pressure can cause symptoms like: headaches, insomnia, nightmares, and stimulant-like effects (like caffeine). Both high blood pressure and dehydration are associated with many different serious negative effects on physiology.

The addictive nature of salt in the diet is so insidious that I think most people just can't overcome the addiction. They associate salt with flavor, and then it becomes a vicious cycle. I have some friends in this category, and I'm concerned about it, but... what can you say? They tend to just joke around about it, like it's no big deal. The older you get, the more of a big deal it becomes. What I recommend is to take a break from added salt, to see what it's like not to consume so much salt, but you have to be careful because A LOT OF THINGS that come in a package, container, or bottle contain added salt. If you do this test long enough, your body will come back into balance, and you'll feel a lot better. You will see just how much salt was affecting you.

A great way to cleanse the body of excess salt (and excess sugar by the way) is vigorous exercise that produces a lot of sweat. You can also balance your electrolytes by consuming high-postassium fruits, for example bananas in a smoothie.

We live in the boonies and even when we go to the city we never eat at fast food joints. I have low blood pressure and often get dizzy when standing up too fast. Lots of meds to deal with high BP but nothing for low other than caffeine and salt.

The amount of salt I add to my water is less than a 1/4 tsp and just a sprinkle on veggies at suppertime. There is very little processed food in the house and nothing like sodas to drink. Like most people concerned with their health I avoided salt most of my life but did eat fast food in my early years before I became aware of the negative health benefits in my 20s. Something to be aware of is that most people avoiding salt are getting zero iodine in their diet so along with the salt I add to my water I also add a drop of iodine. Pink Himalayan salt has no iodine unless you can get it marked Iodized like table salt.

Do not add bananas to your fruit smoothies! Just recently I found out that there is something in bananas that neutralizes the anti-oxidants in the other fruits reducing their levels by 90%. Bananas take up too much room in my smoothies anyway. I always seem to run out of space for stuff as it is. Gram for gram a baked potato has up to 4X the potassium as bananas do and don't need to be shipped in from a tropical country. We grow most of our own.

My typical 2-day smoothie has lots of goodies in it. 3 different types of fruit, same with nuts/seeds, coconut milk kefir for liquid, oat bran, wheat germ, cocoa, hemp hearts and hemp protein powder, (I recently got 16lbs of each in bulk), nutritional yeast and a few other things.

I've also been dealing with enlarged prostate issues for about 7 years and take vitamin and mineral supplements to help with that. A recent ultrasound shows it has shrunk by a third and my whole night's sleep without having to get up to go shows it's working. Used to be 5 times a night with the urge to go preventing me from getting back to sleep. I sleep like a baby now.

Luckily I don't gain weight as I've been very sedentary for years so need to work on that and quitting the cigs. At age 69 and 5'8" I only weigh about 140lbs. Arthritis makes a lot of things hurt to move vigorously like no running or jogging but I get out on my mountain bike and last spring got a small boat I row around to go fishing as often as possible from spring thaw to freeze up. Now that the wife got rid of the chickens in the shop I can dust off my recumbent bike to do some pedalling indoors and I have lots of weights too. That was just last week and cleaning up the shop is gonna be a big job. I should be working on that right now but noting on my dance card for the next while. Being retired is great!

 

[Keffka]

Luckily I don't gain weight as I've been very sedentary for years so need to work on that and quitting the cigs. At age 69 and 5'8" I only weigh about 140lbs

Im in a similar situation that I’m trying to work through. Im 39, 5’8” and weigh 120 pounds (Thankfully I’m tall enough to have avoided a napoleon complex). In basic training I went from 109 to 119, then that was it. The only time I’ve ever gotten to 130 and above was when I was in Afghanistan and worked out constantly while consuming 3,000+ calories per day. It took us about 7-10 days to redeploy stateside and during those 7-10 days I wasn’t working out or eating big and I lost almost all the weight I put on.

Interestingly, at my age, height and weight, I struggle with high blood pressure. This is in part due to the cigarettes, but it also has to do with the fact that I am almost always amped up. Even when I’m calm, it doesn’t take much for me to become impassioned about something. I also can feel that my low weight wears my body down much quicker and feel like if I had more weight I’d feel better.

My biggest issue is a weird hang up with food. I don’t like food. I don’t like eating and I’m annoyed at how much time it takes to prepare food and eat it. That’s a lot of time I lose to do something I don’t really enjoy. I view it as fuel and nothing more. I don’t even get the munchies when I smoke, I just get less annoyed about food. I’ve tried to break out of this but I very often find myself realizing I’ve been hungry for hours and am just staving it off.

I can’t tell you how many people say: “I wish I had that problem” No you don’t. You especially don’t want this problem if you’re a man in the USA. I’ve spent my entire life dealing with people talking smack about my weight, to the point you’d think it would drive me to eat more but it’s just annoying.

 

[OldMedUser]

I can count on one hand the amount of laborers I’ve seen with water bottles. I have lost track of the amount I’ve seen with Mt Dews and Cokes, even when it’s a 100F day and we’re framing houses or roofing. Their sugary drinks give them just enough water to not pass out but they inevitably drag ass, complain about stomach issues, and can’t figure out why they feel so sluggish even with all that sugar and caffeine.

I haven't had sodas in a couple of decades since they started using HFCS in all of them. I like ginger beer but the local store doesn't carry it any more. real can sugar and real ginger in the one I like and it bites when you drink it. Gave up booze 2 and a half years ago but drank hard stuff when I did drink. I'd binge for 3 days then be sick and depressed for a month before doing it again. Feel so much better now.

I assume caffeine pills and energy drinks don’t fall into this category.

Coffee is loaded with anti-oxidants too so it's not just the caffeine that can be beneficial. We have a BUNN coffee maker that makes a pot in 3 min and we only use RO water in it. Two pots a day for the 3 of us tho my adult step-daughter usually only has one or two cups a day.

I have a fear of developing Alzheimer’s/dementia

I only found out about 7 years ago that my birth mother died of dementia at 75 after being diagnosed at 65 so it's a concern for me too. So far so good. Avoid all hydrogenated oils, HFCS and junk food in general. I love my peanut butter but only get the natural ones you have to mix the oil in and store in the fridge. Costco makes a good one and cheap compared to our local stores for Adams. Coconut oil is a good brain oil and I make sure to get at least a couple Tbsps/day. Again, Costco has a good one also cheaper organic pumpkin seeds, walnuts and raw almonds. Cheap vitamin and mineral supplements in larger quantities too. Two hours away for us so I stock up when we have to go to the city. I like their dried ginger slices too but they haven't had any the last couple times I've been.

Red River cereal is back! We had that a lot when I was a kid. We've been using Rogers Porridge oats for years and it's pretty good but got a sack of the Red River on Friday and dying to cook up a pot of that soon.

Thanks for a good, respectful conversation!

You too. We should open a health thread instead of hijacking this one and get more folks involved in sharing healthy habits and ways to deal with health issues. Not like they teach this stuff in schools or even to doctors who only offer pills to alleviate symptoms and manage poor health rather than get to the core of what's making everyone sick.

 

[cbdhemp808]

I appreciate all the input, and I could say A LOT more, ... but now we are straying far far from cannabis. Not to mention we've fully hijacked the OP's thread.

Last thing I'm gonna say on diet... I NEED MY BANANAS! Super food, super medicine. One day here at the farm I hope to have 1,000 banana plants going. OK, one more... my body cannot tolerate caffeine at all... maybe did too much when I was younger. Excercise folks, excercise!

...and, though cannabis is a super medicine as we all know, it's not a replacement for good diet and exercise.

blessings

 

[OldMedUser]

Im in a similar situation that I’m trying to work through. Im 39, 5’8” and weigh 120 pounds (Thankfully I’m tall enough to have avoided a napoleon complex). In basic training I went from 109 to 119, then that was it. The only time I’ve ever gotten to 130 and above was when I was in Afghanistan and worked out constantly while consuming 3,000+ calories per day. It took us about 7-10 days to redeploy stateside and during those 7-10 days I wasn’t working out or eating big and I lost almost all the weight I put on.

Interestingly, at my age, height and weight, I struggle with high blood pressure. This is in part due to the cigarettes, but it also has to do with the fact that I am almost always amped up. Even when I’m calm, it doesn’t take much for me to become impassioned about something. I also can feel that my low weight wears my body down much quicker and feel like if I had more weight I’d feel better.

My biggest issue is a weird hang up with food. I don’t like food. I don’t like eating and I’m annoyed at how much time it takes to prepare food and eat it. That’s a lot of time I lose to do something I don’t really enjoy. I view it as fuel and nothing more. I don’t even get the munchies when I smoke, I just get less annoyed about food. I’ve tried to break out of this but I very often find myself realizing I’ve been hungry for hours and am just staving it off.

I can’t tell you how many people say: “I wish I had that problem” No you don’t. You especially don’t want this problem if you’re a man in the USA. I’ve spent my entire life dealing with people talking smack about my weight, to the point you’d think it would drive me to eat more but it’s just annoying.

First off thank you for your service! My dad was a Canadian naval vet for the duration of WWII and fought in both theatres until it was all over. He encouraged me to join up but a stint in Sea Cadets really showed my lack of deference to authority so better no service than a dishonourable discharge. lol

Funny how people don't point out or make fun of fat people but don't think twice about bugging you about needing to put on weight. All my life putting up with that shit.

Sounds like you might be a bit of a Type A personality. I could use a bit of that to overcome my procrastination. I only get wound up when I've been pounding back the coffee then the ADHD kicks in and I'm all over the place trying to do 10 things at once and not getting much done.

One of the things I need pot for is to get me to eat enough to maintain my weight. I hardly use any pot these days and usually not long before I should be heading for bed so often my biggest meal of the day is after midnight. I too often ignore the rumblings in my belly as it seems like too much to go make something to eat. I live on carbs mostly unless one of the women is cooking up a proper dinner then I get 'nap attacks' that zone me out for an hour and I'll be all grumpy and out of sorts for another couple of hours. A dozen docs over the last 20 years haven't been any help fixing that. Chronic fatigue maybe but never anything for sure. I'm hypoglycemic so sometimes am forced to eat or get the shakes really bad and feel faint even tho my blood sugars are above low normal.

Some good TV on tonight on PBS so time for a toke and turn my head to the left 30 degrees.