Cannabutter Failure

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Ed Brown

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So I tried making cannabutter using the crockpot method. I thought everything went great until I put the liquid in an open tupperware in the refrigerator and left it over night. I woke up expecting to see the butter separated from the water, but it's all mixed in liquid form still...

I'm considering melting more butter and then adding it to the mix to see if it helps. Any thoughts?
 
I'd have expected it to be floating on top. You did allow the mix to approach room temperature before placing it in the refrigerator, didn't you? Because if you placed it in there while it was still hot, it may just not have cooled enough yet. (And your milk/etc. might have warmed to the point and for a sufficient duration to cause it to go off early, lol, from placing a heat source in a closed and insulated box with it.) Yes, a modern refrigerator interior is an actively-cooled device - but not that actively ;) .

Try sticking it into the freezer for a while. Not long enough to freeze the water, though.
 
Some varieties of butter have a large water content and emulsifiers added to keep things mixed. It sounds like you have one of these varieties. I woudn't add more butter to the mix. I'd wait for someone with more experience to validate my next suggestion. My solution would be to put it in a pot, and bring it to a slow boil to evaporate the water. As I said, someone with more experience may have a better solution.
 
I'm pretty sure it was because I didn't use true butter. It was a "buttery spread". I added two sticks of unsalted butter to the mixture and it reformmed into solid butter in no time. I dont feel like the butter is that strong (thc), but I know where I screwed up for next time.
 
Are you trying to use the entire leaf, or do you want the cannabinoids and terpines?

If the cannabinoids and terpines, I suggest dry ice extraction for hash. You won't get much of the vegetation. The hash can be used to make cannabutter, or smoked.
 
elbrandone said:
I tried again with 2 sticks unsalted butter and it formed just fine. Although using trim requires a large amount of water, so it is not that thick.
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Howdy. I clarify my butter, decarb my bud and simmer in a double boiler for 4 hours. I then strain through a reuseable coffee filter. I don't add the water to the bud and ghee. It makes a really potent butter. I'm going to be making some in the coming weeks after I'm done with my harvest.
I can do a tutorial when the time comes. I need to source some lecithin first.
 
elbrandone said:
I tried again with 2 sticks unsalted butter and it formed just fine. Although using trim requires a large amount of water, so it is not that thick.
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Whenever I make butter I use Costco salted butter. Last time I use trim, A lot of trim and two pounds of butter. I put the butter in and melted it in the crock pot. Then tossed in a lot of trim. Totally filled the crock pot. I then added boiling water till it came up enough to submerge the trim. Kept stirring to make that happen. Then ever 3 hours gave it a stir. Let it go over nite and in the morning gave it another stir then 3 hours later strained it al out. Ended up with 432 grams of butter. I also use a glass container in the fridge. It won't melt. All in it was 20 hours or so. I am looking forward to sampling it as I have zero idea of it's potency. In all previous butter cookie matings I used 35 grams of flower to 454 grams of butter. That would net me about 140 cookies.
 
I used 3 Oz of bud from last year. With 3 pounds unsalted butter with 6 cups water in slow cooker. Let prossce for 20 hours. Cooled then refrigerator for 4 hours. Did not separate ao put in freezer for over night. Still no separate. Placed frozen in fridge and now taking melted water that has cannabis infused. But the butter seems to have no infused cannabis.
 
Just use coconut oil -- has more saturated fats and that's what strips the plant matter of the goodies - higher sat fats higher thc content .. Plus I use Magic Butter Machine -- put everything in, push tw0 buttons and wait... It does it all except decarb... Can use the coconut oil in place of butter in your recipes -- no difference.

Happy Cookin
MotaMan
 
I like to decarboxylate my weed in the oven before.
How long should the butter and weed simmer together?
Some say 8+hours best 24 hours, others say don't simmer longer then 4 hours you'll lose THC.

I made cannabutter before and it's seems I'm not getting any better....worst if you ask me
 
liquid lou said:
I used 3 Oz of bud from last year. With 3 pounds unsalted butter with 6 cups water in slow cooker. Let prossce for 20 hours. Cooled then refrigerator for 4 hours. Did not separate ao put in freezer for over night. Still no separate. Placed frozen in fridge and now taking melted water that has cannabis infused. But the butter seems to have no infused cannabis.
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Update: after placing in the freezer over night the butter finally separated and water froze. I was very easily able to pull the butter and block of ice apart. So successfully completed.
2 cookie limit! LOL
 
BlueAzurite said:
I like to decarboxylate my weed in the oven before.
How long should the butter and weed simmer together?
Some say 8+hours best 24 hours, others say don't simmer longer then 4 hours you'll lose THC.

I made cannabutter before and it's seems I'm not getting any better....worst if you ask me
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When I did it, I'd let it go 24 hours on LOW. I no longer do butter. What I do now is better. I take my cannabis and decarb it. I bought a 1000 empty gel capsules on Amazon. They are size 00 I pack them tightly with the decarbed cannabis and toss them in the fridge. I pop one or 2 depending on what I feel like and boom, 45 minutes later the effect is the same as I would have eating a cookie without getting full. Best part. No expiry date.
 
Get a Magic Butter Machine -- like said before -- push two buttons and you're done. You are left with oil and a sludge that can be used further in cooking.. Plus the MBM does everything in under 10 hrs !! A lot of people also use an InstaPot also..

Raw pot can irritate the lining of the stomach in some folks -- not all but some..

Happy Cookin
MotaMan
 
I had a similar issue where after taking it out of the fridge after 8 hours, there was a layer of olive coloured waxy butter on top, but underneath that was a thicker layer of yellowish watery flour-like 'powder' (which does contain thc but is maybe not as strong as the waxy butter).

This didn't happen the first time I made cannabutter, so it's possible the second time I put it in the fridge too soon after taking it off the heat and straining it.
 
MotaMan420 said:
Get a Magic Butter Machine -- like said before -- push two buttons and you're done. You are left with oil and a sludge that can be used further in cooking.. Plus the MBM does everything in under 10 hrs !! A lot of people also use an InstaPot also..

Raw pot can irritate the lining of the stomach in some folks -- not all but some..

Happy Cookin
MotaMan
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Im indeed considering buying the Nebula decarboxylator. do i still cook it longer then 10 hours to get the most potent cannabutter?
 
Edzzed said:
When I did it, I'd let it go 24 hours on LOW. I no longer do butter. What I do now is better. I take my cannabis and decarb it. I bought a 1000 empty gel capsules on Amazon. They are size 00 I pack them tightly with the decarbed cannabis and toss them in the fridge. I pop one or 2 depending on what I feel like and boom, 45 minutes later the effect is the same as I would have eating a cookie without getting full. Best part. No expiry date.
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Oh for real!? Maybe I should try that too...for how long do you decarboxylate it? And how do you masseur the dosage?
 
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