Cannabis Rezination

Ahoy there!
We had a surprising level of success germinating some stubborn seeds using our 2019 Willow Brass so we have decided to give it a go against the last of the classic seeds gifted us by the @StoneOtter. We are also using it to soak a Bruce Banner Fem and a White Widow Fem. If any of the classics do pop we have a garden plan in place.

All the plants were treated with 150 ppm foliar MeJA today. My back willing we will get some scope shots of the trichome density and pistilate populations. This jazz is amazing stuff. They did a study using tomatoes and one meja treatment increased trichome density over 95%. When they treated a pine forest under insect attack the next season the trees were so resinous the bugs couldn't eat through it. On rice fields they are able to increase planting density due to the changes in shade avoidance the treatment solicits. Same holds with cannabis folks. One treatment and your off and running. :love:
tbc
All this foreplay is killing me! Keep talking!
 
This jazz is amazing stuff. They did a study using tomatoes and one meja treatment increased trichome density over 95%. When they treated a pine forest under insect attack the next season the trees were so resinous the bugs couldn't eat through it. On rice fields they are able to increase planting density due to the changes in shade avoidance the treatment solicits. Same holds with cannabis folks. One treatment and your off and running. :love:
tbc
Wow, that's pretty compelling!
 
Why use more than one technique on a single plant? You end up with no definitive data on either treatment.
Unless you have all the prior data you need from previous MeJA applications alone of course!
Ahoy Shed,
The interrogatories you are known to petition are precious in they force me into explaining. And that is something I am known to gladly provide. :)

The prejudice I have yet to shake regarding the breeding of Sativa with dogtails led me to play with the Blue Amnesia Auto's. I thought what the hell, let's play with our dream of creating the recipe that will have a fully fertigated plant believe she is experiencing a drought and produce more resin than otherwise. I will explain.

The auto on left got the ABA, the one on the right did not. Both plants got MeJA just to see what it will elicit from the treatment on an automatic. Anyhow the plan is the plant on right not getting ABA will be droughted while the ABA plant will continue receiving ever increasing amounts of ABA treatments with her fertigations. The goal will be the rising levels of ABA will trigger antagonization of the the ABA pathways sensed in the GRN. The GRN would then of course prioritize the synthesis of JA and that of course tells her to produce more essential oils with all available plant resources being redirected to accomplish this. She gets no vote at this point. The genetics of cannabis are set to survive. Species survival I should say.

So the short answer is I am fooling around with what I had. Not a study, just for observations. :hookah:
 
Wow, that's pretty compelling!
Ahoy @Stunger
I finally got the nerve to check in on our long eared brother. Not sure why, but he had been on my mind and I was fearful the wind had been pulled from his sails. I am glad to report he remains on all four. :love:
 
Ahoy @Emilya
Wanted you to know I am slowly accumulating the ingredients I will need to apply as your apprentice. When the ability to conduct my studies has passed I will be looking to you as my organic mentor. With a bit of good fortune that remains a ways out in time, but it remains my goal. I want to garden the way I think the creator of cannabis intended.

If you would still be willing to help. :love:
 
Ahoy @Emilya
Wanted you to know I am slowly accumulating the ingredients I will need to apply as your apprentice. When the ability to conduct my studies has passed I will be looking to you as my organic mentor. With a bit of good fortune that remains a ways out in time, but it remains my goal. I want to garden the way I think the creator of cannabis intended.

If you would still be willing to help. :love:
Aye, I would be honored to help you along, but I think I can make things much easier for you to dive into organics than it used to be. Modern times have brought us modern ways of doing things, and organic gardening is no exception. We have a sponsor on 420Mag right now that deserves a good looking at, @GeoFlora Nutrients.

This IS an organic growing system. There is nothing not organic about this stuff because all it is is the raw organic nutrients you would normally be cooking into your soil, and the microbes to work on those minerals. Instead of pre-building an organic soil, you can use any soil... even coco! This stuff is that good. Not only that, but you are applying regularly so many microbes that this stuff even laughs off the chlorine in tap water... you just can't kill off the microbes as fast as you are applying them. Every 2 weeks, simply put some granules of this stuff on the top of your soil and water it in. Water only in between.... Organic gardening doesn't get easier than this.

And check out my current grows for the results... I have been using Geoflora since I moved into the new house, from early veg on. There is nothing at all special about my soil either... it is a FoxFarm mix and even so, this grow is turning out to be as good as any organic TLO grow I have ever done.

Now if your goal is to build up a real organic soil, cook it for three months, and then bubble up some properly targeted actively aerated compost teas, we can go down that road together too. If you want to go to the final step, and actually create a self sustaining living soil, then I will defer you to other experts who know a whole lot more than I do about that very involved process, such as @NuttyProfessor.

Someone out here will definitely get you going in the right direction when you are ready, but for now I am really enjoying watching you work with these advanced chemicals and your explanations of the internal workings of these plants.
 
cant find my real camera... again. these are with my phone



 
I'm seeing Dihydro methyl jasmonate on Ebay for $99 for 20ml.
I have some ethanol and also acetone and isopropanol.
You mix in alcohol and then dilute with water to the correct ppm?

With your research to date, when are the best times in the growing cycle for foliar spray and how often?

Some big claims on trichome production !
 
Thanks for the tag , but honestly i wouldn't copy stuff i do , my sig carries a warning lol , i can give you a nice hydro soil recipe ,water mostly couple of teas will get you through,
but the bottled nutes i make are trial and error and might not work for you , some are done with air some fermented air tight no air :D i can send you a link that will explain the NO air way , its simple, then just add to your teas , your feeding the bad to the good for a bacteria charge .
 
cant find my real camera... again. these are with my phone



Love the FULL of bud look!
 
I'm seeing Dihydro methyl jasmonate on Ebay for $99 for 20ml.
I have some ethanol and also acetone and isopropanol.
You mix in alcohol and then dilute with water to the correct ppm?

With your research to date, when are the best times in the growing cycle for foliar spray and how often?

Some big claims on trichome production !
Ahoy Captain D,
methyl jasmonate has already been made into an ester.
$99 / 20ml is terribly overpriced.
have a peek at company called powergrown from New Zealand.
purchase jasmonate from them around $50
then we will use your ethanol.
makes over a gallon of solution @150 ppm

I am treating with MeJA during 6th week of flower prior to the drought at week 7.
 
Sorry, but some book science for the newbies. :)

From WIKI.

“ABA was originally believed to be involved in abscission, which is how it received its name. This is now known to be the case only in a small number of plants. ABA-mediated signaling also plays an important part in plant responses to environmental stress and plant pathogens.[6][7] The plant genes for ABA biosynthesis and sequence of the pathway have been elucidated. Seed germination is inhibited by ABA in antagonism with gibberellin. ABA also prevents loss of seed dormancy.”

“Abscisic acid is also produced in the roots in response to decreased soil water potential (which is associated with dry soil) and other situations in which the plant may be under stress. ABA then translocates to the leaves, where it rapidly alters the osmotic potential of stomatal guard cells, causing them to shrink and stomata to close. The ABA-induced stomatal closure reduces transpiration (evaporation of water out of the stomata), thus preventing further water loss from the leaves in times of low water availability.”

Enough of that.

The folks in white robes are all over this very ancient phytohormone. Most of the pathways have been mapped and published. I say most because it remains to be elucidated (figured out) how the hormones behave in concert with other hormones and the effects of circadian accumulations on those same hormones.

Anyhow, the jist of this is try and antagonize the ABA pathways with rootzone exogenous applications of ABA. If all goes well the root guard cells will be as pissed off when they encounter the ABA as the stomatal guard cells are when we use the foliar antagonist MeJA.

“The fingers need not be crossed” says the stoned alchemist. :hookah:
tbc
 
So I excitedly explain all this above to Mrs. Maritimer as she climbs into bed.

Surely this must impress my bride of 18 years. She will sense the genuine drive and purpose in my work and exclaim how proud she is of me. I see her lips about to speak and I get excited all the more.

"Turn off the fireplace before you go to bed"

WTH :love:
 
I feel you brother.
Ahoy Stone,
We had to jump on two of the Stankberry Queens pretty hard with HST super cropping. I call supercropping during flower high stress training because it causes Abiotic Stress. Some folks have noticed the benefits of buds off a branch that had been SC. Same with the more rowdy gardeners putting screws, nails, wedges, ports.... This is how cannabis reacts to abiotic stress, it makes stonier reefer because the resin/gram content of essential oils in the buds is greater when the cultivar is stressed. Stress a branch and you get a couple stonier buds. Stress the entire organism and whalah.

just sayin :bongrip:
 
Ahoy Stone,
We had to jump on two of the Stankberry Queens pretty hard with HST super cropping. I call supercropping during flower high stress training because it causes Abiotic Stress. Some folks have noticed the benefits of buds off a branch that had been SC. Same with the more rowdy gardeners putting screws, nails, wedges, ports.... This is how cannabis reacts to abiotic stress, it makes stonier reefer because the resin/gram content of essential oils in the buds is greater when the cultivar is stressed. Stress a branch and you get a couple stonier buds. Stress the entire organism and whalah.

just sayin :bongrip:
In the late summer I had a couple of plants in the garden that were getting quite tall as they waited for the flower tent.
I supercropped them whilst still in veg and have just done the harvest.
They had about 40cm bent over and there were buds all along the stem.
I was quite impressed.
 
Ahoy Stone,
We had to jump on two of the Stankberry Queens pretty hard with HST super cropping. I call supercropping during flower high stress training because it causes Abiotic Stress. Some folks have noticed the benefits of buds off a branch that had been SC. Same with the more rowdy gardeners putting screws, nails, wedges, ports.... This is how cannabis reacts to abiotic stress, it makes stonier reefer because the resin/gram content of essential oils in the buds is greater when the cultivar is stressed. Stress a branch and you get a couple stonier buds. Stress the entire organism and whalah.

just sayin :bongrip:
Jump Maxwell! Nice explanation! Haha, I love the term "Stonier Reefer"! It could refer to you my friend! See what I did there? Maritimer-Reefer, anyway... Yes, actually I submitted an example of a plant in flower having been supercropped in this month's pic of the month contest. That was one cola bent over.
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She was very sticky.
 
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