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Hi all. So my mam who is 60years old is in ge late staged if stage 4 lung cancer. After 5 weeks trying I finally got oil. Gave her he recomended quater of a grain if rice size and she completley freaked out. She had a really bad paronied episode that last 2 hours. It was horrific the nurses here in the hospice had to give her extra meds onto of her morphine/medaz pump. They think it's gone to her brain. She is in oxegen 24 7 and is bed bound. My family are totally against me giving it again at a smaller dose
Is it too late for her. I just don't know what to do.
 
Harley2 said:
Hi all. So my mam who is 60years old is in ge late staged if stage 4 lung cancer. After 5 weeks trying I finally got oil. Gave her he recomended quater of a grain if rice size and she completley freaked out. She had a really bad paronied episode that last 2 hours. It was horrific the nurses here in the hospice had to give her extra meds onto of her morphine/medaz pump. They think it's gone to her brain. She is in oxegen 24 7 and is bed bound. My family are totally against me giving it again at a smaller dose
Is it too late for her. I just don't know what to do. ��
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I'm so sorry you're going through this frustration Harley. I know you were only trying to help her. It can be difficult to accept the moments that are beyond our control. Unless you can get some family support and your mam is acceptable to trying again, I don't know what you can do, other than hope for a change of heart and be ready to try again. My daughter is super-sensitive so I've seen this reaction up close with a minuscule dose. Your challenge will be building up her tolerance. With my daughter I was advised to chose indica-dominant strains. You may be facing the same challenge with your mam. Do you know the makeup of your oil?
 
No I don't but u might be able to find out. It was very difficult for me to get. I've young children so I was a bit nervous making it in the house. My mam agreed to it before before and I'm sure she'd agree to it again but she's not really 100% with it anymore. I'll speak to my sister and uncle again today and see if I can get around them. Im just so nervous of putting her though a paronied episode again. :( my uncle who is a smoker ate a tiny bit while we were making the drive up to her and he really really stoned. He helped me give her an even smaller amount but it still had that effect. My family think I'm just clutching at straws and not accepting what's happening. That may be true but I've spent weeks researching this stuff and I'm convinced. I just think it probably to later for my mam. She was only diagnosed 6 weeks ago and it took me 4 weeks to get it. :(
 
Harley2 said:
No I don't but u might be able to find out. It was very difficult for me to get. I've young children so I was a bit nervous making it in the house. My mam agreed to it before before and I'm sure she'd agree to it again but she's not really 100% with it anymore. I'll speak to my sister and uncle again today and see if I can get around them. Im just so nervous of putting her though a paronied episode again. :( my uncle who is a smoker ate a tiny bit while we were making the drive up to her and he really really stoned. He helped me give her an even smaller amount but it still had that effect. My family think I'm just clutching at straws and not accepting what's happening. That may be true but I've spent weeks researching this stuff and I'm convinced. I just think it probably to later for my mam. She was only diagnosed 6 weeks ago and it took me 4 weeks to get it. :(
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You can only do what you can Baby. :hugs: Your mam's final destiny isn't under your control.

It sounds like you have some very potent oil there. I fully understand the hesitation. It took me quite a while to try with my daughter again. The experience left us both a little gunshy.

Was the dose administered orally? If so, her weakened condition might explain the excessive euphoria. Through the gut means most of the THC gets metabolized in the liver and you get high. Tacking, a dosing protocol on site, will offer dosing without euphoria. This sounds like something you would be wise to explore.

CCO Dosing Tutorial - Tacking Method

We also have some methods you can use to create both Competitive Inhibition in the liver so more cannabinoids can get into the system and be useful soldiers and Demethylation to assure that the receptors the cannabinoids are seeking out are, in fact, clear and available for attachment. Information about these simple techniques can be found in my Study Hall. If you're interested, it's the link at the very bottom of my signature.

Harley, I'm pulling for you. Keep an open mind and a joyful heart. No matter how it turns out, you want that joyfulness to be what your mam sees. Yes you'll cry too, but her life is a celebration and you're a big part of that. Be joyful, and expect the best outcome. Sometimes that expectation is what turns the tide. Be ready if the opportunity arises, but be willing to accept if it doesn't.

Please let us know how it goes, and best of luck in your presenting of the arguments. We obviously believe cannabinoid therapy works. We have members who were sent home to die years ago. Terminal is a very relative term.
 
Harley2 said:
Hi all. So my mam who is 60years old is in ge late staged if stage 4 lung cancer. After 5 weeks trying I finally got oil. Gave her he recomended quater of a grain if rice size and she completley freaked out. She had a really bad paronied episode that last 2 hours. It was horrific the nurses here in the hospice had to give her extra meds onto of her morphine/medaz pump. They think it's gone to her brain. She is in oxegen 24 7 and is bed bound. My family are totally against me giving it again at a smaller dose
Is it too late for her. I just don't know what to do. ��
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SweetSue said:
I'm so sorry you're going through this frustration Harley. I know you were only trying to help her. It can be difficult to accept the moments that are beyond our control. Unless you can get some family support and your mam is acceptable to trying again, I don't know what you can do, other than hope for a change of heart and be ready to try again. My daughter is super-sensitive so I've seen this reaction up close with a minuscule dose. Your challenge will be building up her tolerance. With my daughter I was advised to chose indica-dominant strains. You may be facing the same challenge with your mam. Do you know the makeup of your oil?
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Harley2 said:
No I don't but u might be able to find out. It was very difficult for me to get. I've young children so I was a bit nervous making it in the house. My mam agreed to it before before and I'm sure she'd agree to it again but she's not really 100% with it anymore. I'll speak to my sister and uncle again today and see if I can get around them. Im just so nervous of putting her though a paronied episode again. :( my uncle who is a smoker ate a tiny bit while we were making the drive up to her and he really really stoned. He helped me give her an even smaller amount but it still had that effect. My family think I'm just clutching at straws and not accepting what's happening. That may be true but I've spent weeks researching this stuff and I'm convinced. I just think it probably to later for my mam. She was only diagnosed 6 weeks ago and it took me 4 weeks to get it. :(
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SweetSue said:
You can only do what you can Baby. :hugs: Your mam's final destiny isn't under your control.

It sounds like you have some very potent oil there. I fully understand the hesitation. It took me quite a while to try with my daughter again. The experience left us both a little gunshy.

Was the dose administered orally? If so, her weakened condition might explain the excessive euphoria. Through the gut means most of the THC gets metabolized in the liver and you get high. Tacking, a dosing protocol on site, will offer dosing without euphoria. This sounds like something you would be wise to explore.

CCO Dosing Tutorial - Tacking Method

We also have some methods you can use to create both Competitive Inhibition in the liver so more cannabinoids can get into the system and be useful soldiers and Demethylation to assure that the receptors the cannabinoids are seeking out are, in fact, clear and available for attachment. Information about these simple techniques can be found in my Study Hall. If you're interested, it's the link at the very bottom of my signature.

Harley, I'm pulling for you. Keep an open mind and a joyful heart. No matter how it turns out, you want that joyfulness to be what your mam sees. Yes you'll cry too, but her life is a celebration and you're a big part of that. Be joyful, and expect the best outcome. Sometimes that expectation is what turns the tide. Be ready if the opportunity arises, but be willing to accept if it doesn't.

Please let us know how it goes, and best of luck in your presenting of the arguments. We obviously believe cannabinoid therapy works. We have members who were sent home to die years ago. Terminal is a very relative term.
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Could you move this conversation to the actual oil thread please. It belongs there. Thank you
 
The paranoia can be side stepped several ways. Check out the stuff posted above.
Paranoia is dramatic, but it's just a mental reaction. If you can remember that no one has ever died from a marijuana overdose.
Magnesium supplements can help keep the euphoria down if/when it kicks in.
Try tacking, as posted above, 30 mins after eating or ingesting fast content.
Should be good to go.
Again, paranoia is extremely uncomfortable & scary, but it is a fairly minor side effect. It can be controlled.
 
Thanks everyone for your posts. I'm not going to give it to her. She is gravely ill and I don't want to risk and side effects as she has gone through enough in the last 7 weeks. It's time to let her go #fuckcancer
 
Hi!! I am here to learn more about safety, effectiveness, ideas and personal experiences regarding cannabis oil. My story revolves around my Mom's dementia. As a complete reach on my part, due to frustration and just overwhelmed at times I wanted to give my Mom and me some relief. Using oil has helped the anxiety, fear and restlessness that come with her dementia...and it comes in waves with her...her has many good days and physically, she's in good health for 80. Just needs to alleviate the cloud that envelopes her at times....thank you for your ideas, suggestions and encouragement.
 
camper2016 said:
Hi!! I am here to learn more about safety, effectiveness, ideas and personal experiences regarding cannabis oil. My story revolves around my Mom's dementia. As a complete reach on my part, due to frustration and just overwhelmed at times I wanted to give my Mom and me some relief. Using oil has helped the anxiety, fear and restlessness that come with her dementia...and it comes in waves with her...her has many good days and physically, she's in good health for 80. Just needs to alleviate the cloud that envelopes her at times....thank you for your ideas, suggestions and encouragement.
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Welcome to the fold!!! Make sure you stop at Sue's CCO study hall!!! There is a TON of info there. It may take you several readings!!! :peace:
 
camper2016 said:
Thank you, super I'll do that...
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I'll look for you camper. I have some notes on dementia we can look over. Hopefully we can help you find some outside the box solutions.
 
Thank you, Sue...I look forward to sharing and working with you and others in the forum. Read some of your posts and looked at the work and I'm very impressed with the commitment and dedication shown by you and many posters. So many of us have loved ones, friends and family who need alternatives for a better way of living...thank you.
 
camper2016 said:
Thank you, Sue...I look forward to sharing and working with you and others in the forum. Read some of your posts and looked at the work and I'm very impressed with the commitment and dedication shown by you and many posters. So many of us have loved ones, friends and family who need alternatives for a better way of living...thank you.
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Oh so true! Welcome to learning alternatives and getting them going!
:circle-of-love:
 
Congratulations on your MOTM nomination, it goes without saying........but I will........YOU GOT MY VOTE!!!!

:Namaste::Love::cco::Love::Namaste:
 
I had emailed the folks at Extractohol quite some time ago when another member posted about it on the oil threads. I wanted to know if they were the same company we used to order from, (KleenXtract) but a name change. I never heard back from them.
I'm going to look in the sponsors tab now, and maybe try again if they are listed.

Thanks for the reminder you guys!
 
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