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Smoke or chew it. Never tried it.
 
Smoke or chew it. Never tried it.
It's hash right. Kinda looks like old plug stuff. Back in the day. So what people do with it how you make it. It's interesting for sure. Looks good

Went back read it wow. That be hard to get perfect for sure.
 
It's hash right. Kinda looks like old plug stuff. Back in the day. So what people do with it how you make it. It's interesting for sure. Looks good

Went back read it wow. That be hard to get perfect for sure.
No it's not hash, but it does look like it. It's completely different. Cobbing changes the cannabinoid profile making it much more intense, I remember when I was sixteen I ate some of it and spent a night hallucinating, seeing crazy shit for hours, I was terrified I'd never be the same. Never been higher in my life.
 
No it's not hash, but it does look like it. It's completely different. Cobbing changes the cannabinoid profile making it much more intense, I remember when I was sixteen I ate some of it and spent a night hallucinating, seeing crazy shit for hours, I was terrified I'd never be the same. Never been higher in my life.
Oh dang it man . Yeah. I'll stick with not being a zombie in Canada. That's real up there. Heard many story's.
 
Never tried, but different drugs from fermentation and you've got things like ergot. One time I was tripping so bad on shrooms that I won't even consider micro dosing.:rofl::rofl:. The old Romulan is quite a prize, Next Gen says they have the fem close to the original one. I wish i could justify more seeds but I need a lifetime or 40 acres to catch up. Fun to shop though!
 
Is there any good historical literature on Malawi cobbs, seems like the real ones are hard to come by. Pipe tobacco has a higher moisture content and seems like cob would be the same? Never that interested but wan't to make and try.


if you want a real one use an african landrace like durban and bury it instead of using a vacuum packer.
 
if you want a real one use an african landrace like durban and bury it instead of using a vacuum packer.
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This what they looked like in the 80s when I lived there; I remember they had a distinct reddish hue to them when unwrapped; it was very strong cannabis and they cost about a buck fifty a cob. They came wrapped in corn husk and tied with a grass string. You can still buy pure malawi seeds from several sites on the internet, most say it can get about 26% THC. However they have a long flowering time 12-16 weeks. It's a sativa that takes you to wild places, very visually trippy.
 
Those really are great looking cobs, Chungo. Fermented cannabis changes the high in a very different way. I bought real Malawi cob in Africa back in the day and it was some of the most electric pot I've ever experienced. How are your fermented cobs different from the unfermented of same strain in terms of the high?
I find the cobs smoke a lot smother than just cured cannabis due to the fermentation and digestion of the cellulose. I just finished a AK 47 cob from a few years back and to be honest I didn't think the high from the the regular cured cannabis was anything special though acceptable but some people I gave a bunch to thought it was good. However I just finished a Cob from the same grow and was really surprised at how hard hitting and how long it lasted and now regret not turning the whole grow into Cobs....I grew some cannabis last year that was a total fail in quality and have been giving it away but I made some cobs from it that I haven't tried yet and maybe of interest to compare.
 
if you want a real one use an african landrace like durban and bury it instead of using a vacuum packer.
If you want to go traditional sure and I might add my ground will be frozen right away with the snow we just got. Wrapping in corn husks and burying is only to produce a anaerobic condition to start the fermentation. The vacuum packing gets rid of the shovel and searching out corn husks. I have some Golden Tiger 3.0 (Sativa) and Killer A 5 Haze (predominantly Sativa) curing now that I haven't tried yet.
 
Is there any good historical literature on Malawi cobbs, seems like the real ones are hard to come by. Pipe tobacco has a higher moisture content and seems like cob would be the same? Never that interested but wan't to make and try.
I have in the past compared it to pipe tobacco in texture and mildness. I throw in a 60% humidity pack in with the cobs in the 3 month cure....
 
Is there any good historical literature on Malawi cobbs, seems like the real ones are hard to come by. Pipe tobacco has a higher moisture content and seems like cob would be the same? Never that interested but wan't to make and try.
Here is a good explanation and history of Malawi cob:

Traditional practice​

Back in the day when there were no plastic bags or tin roofs, dealing with the harvest, drying and keeping it mold free was a huge problem. So the tribes tried many different ways using naturally occurring and common materials in the tropical environment to ensure their bud was stored well and remained good to smoke.
In their quest for the perfect cure they discovered curing methods which would actually enhance the product, these discoveries were carefully developed over the ages and the result was the cob and specific curing methods using goats.
The ingenuity is mind blowing, the tribes really tried everything to ensure they were happily stoned and could continue smoking cured Chamba, beneficial to their health for as long as they pleased.
Mbudadenga reports that most of the OGs that provided the knowledge still smoked heavily and were as fit as mountain goats. The secret lies in the curing – they claim that they never smoke uncured/unfermented bud as it will make you cough and give you breathing problems. The traditional cob curing method ensures a smooth sweet smoke.
A microscopic inspection and smoke test of the fermented Cannabis shows that the trichomes have all melted and all the chlorophyll and acids have converted to sugars.
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The procedure​

The herb used to be grown till fully mature and dripping with resin. The fully ripe plants would be cut at the stem and either hung in a shed with a thatch roof, or if there was no shed, piled on a mat next to the field with a piece of cloth over the top when the sun is at its hottest. In some areas where plants were left to continue regrowing every year and became trees, only the buds would be pulled off the branches. The bud was then left till resin fell on the ground and the ground became sticky. These perennial forests were chopped down in the 1990’s by the authorities under international pressure.
To ensure a smooth smoke, the buds after harvest are left out at night to collect the dew – they should be covered in dew at least twice for the best result. The fully matured seedless Kalanjuichi/Sensimilia (kalanjuichi – honeyfilled) buds (Mchila wa Nkhosa – the tails of sheep) are then chosen and packed in carefully selected and cut to size sections of banana bark.
The buds are arranged evenly in a line in the center of the banana bark sheet and given a light sprinkling of untreated water if they are too dry, with a shake of a wetted hand. The banana bark is then carefully squeezed and wrapped around the bud, then it’s unrolled and inspected and added to until the cobber is satisfied the amount of bud is even along the full length.
Fresh wet bark from hardwood trees is used to tie the buds rolled up in banana bark into a cob, this needs to be very tight – the tighter the better. One end of the bark is tied to a tree or the center post of the hut and full strength and body weight is used to wrap it as tight as possible. Some use a pestle to pound the buds down into the cob whilst packing in as much as possible and continuing to wrap tightly.
The size of the cobs should not be bigger than a big man’s penis or they will be packed too loose. They should also not be too small or there is not enough oil and bud for it to “cook” nicely. Medium is the best!
Once there are a few hundred cobs wrapped, they are placed in the sun for a day or 2 and turned so the binding bark begins to dry and tighten even more, the banana bark wrapping also starts to dry out. The cobs are then placed under the goat’s house on a double floor – the floors are bamboo or wood slats. The goats above piss and shit and this fills up the gaps between the cobs on the floor below.
The temperature in the goat shit rises and stays around 80°C and higher. The banana bark is not fully sealed, so it allows moisture to filter through by osmosis. The banana bark gives off ripening chemicals as it ferments and the binding bark continues to tighten.
The cobs would be removed after at least 40days, but most would leave them till the next harvest when the space is required for reloading with freshly wrapped cobs. Only fully fermented and cured weed from the harvest before last is ready for consumption and smoked.
The best cobs would turn to a sticky solid mass called “pula”. Now a name forgotten for weed and instead used for finger hash or charras. Nowadays, goats are no longer kept in sheds as there are no livestock predators anymore so the traditional way is difficult to find.

More original curing methods​

Another method was to bury the cobs in the waste husk left over when brewing local maize beer. This would also ferment and it would not only give the herb a special flavour, but also a golden colour. The longer it was left, the darker the color and the harder and more resinous the final product.
Sometimes the buds would be smoke-cured for a couple of days or hours with hardwood smoke similar to the process for dark fired tobacco. This would help to prevent any unwanted fungus or bacteria from spoiling the fermentation once packed in the cob. After curing, the cobs would sometimes also be smoke-cured before storage and to ensure they were insect and rot resistant.
In dry areas where there were no banana trees, tribes sometimes use the leaves that cover the maize cob and make smaller cobs. These are inferior but do sometimes turn the bud a reddish Colour. Other methods include tightly compressing and packing the buds in the cleaned out hollow sections of certain reeds, perhaps ones containing DMT were favoured. The reeds would be plugged and be left to ferment in a suitable place where the temperature remains stable and preferably warm.
Clay pots of a specific design were also used for curing, they were packed tightly with fresh bud and sealed for months before being smashed open to reveal a solid pot shaped cured stash. The best cobs are traditionally stored after curing in the thatch of the roof of the hut and are to be enjoyed with friends. It was always so hard, one needed a knife or a hacksaw and tough fingers to crush it so it could be smoked. The colors and stickiness would vary from the famous Gold to the super potent black, the red, the purple and the green and brown. Each one was known to have certain qualities and were used for specific reasons. One made you feel happily drunk and the other was known for its knockout action. The tarry sticky black one was famous for being so strong the joint would never be finished in one sitting, even in a group of heavy smokers. The resin would soak the joint after a few pulls and lips would be black. The gold one made you so high that it made Malawi famous!
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Even a long drop!​

When demand grew and prohibition by the British was introduced the precious cobs were at risk, so the common method for curing and concealment that was found to work best was to hang the cobs on strings from the floor of the long drop toilet. The gases would make the bud in the cobs also turn yellow.
Another method was to dig a hole and throw in a layer of ash, then a layer of goat shit, then a layer of cobs, then goat shit again, then ash and then cover the mound and pack it down with clay soil. A stick would be buried upright in the center and allowed to protrude so that it can be removed and used as a gauge to check the temperature. When the stick is the same temperature along it’s full length the process is done and the cobs are ready. Here's where many people find the seed: The Malawi Cob
 
I got the ash, and no problem rounding up the goat shit ....... I think I got this :laugh:. Off for a new timer today, lights been on for 36 hours, now I know why my plants have been veging so well. My old wiring buddy passed away and everything is wired direct, should be fun trying not to electrocute myself.:)
Lmao... You'll be fine just make sure your wearing your rubbers when you do it! 😄 hahaha!
 
I wasted (meaning research) time on Youtube this morning and discovered a great site for a Landrace cannabis grower. If you ever wondered what oldtime landraces are like there's a guy in California who grows so many I'm drooling just thinking about it. In one video he displays what some different African landraces look and smell like and talks about how psychedelic they are. He grow so many types from around the globe. Such a genetic world treasure! I wish we had the climate here to grow what he does.
 
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