Bud Washing

4Dutchess said:
B.Brown, 1 table spoon per 3 gal of each, L.Juice, B.soda?? Thats where I messed up but then I re read Doc Buds method and he says 1 cup per 5 gal.?? Im confused. The tbl. spoon per 3 gal seems like a much better ratio. All I know is it fucked my weed up at a 1/2 cup per 5 gal. They were the big main buds too. I can only see washing if bug infested. And also Bud Rot and WPM maybe. I had some bud rot that dident get washed and I made butter out of it and it made me sick as shit. I used pidgeons 420 mag utube video as reference. Id bet money the video is like Doc Buds recommendation of 1 cup b.soda per 5 gal and I did half.
Heres a pic of the weed that made me sick. Its the brown area next to the budrot. I threw all the rot away. Youd think the 6hr simmer would kill all but not!
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When I get bud like that.. I chop out the bad parts and toss in the compost bin. There's nothing good going to come from that shit. The flowers developed PM deep inside the bud during flower. THE only cure or "treatment" I've found that keeps that to a minimum is spraying the VEG plants with Horsetail Fern Tea. I've seen this issue.. enough to make me wanna figure out a fix. Rudolf Steiner found the Horsetail Fern tea deal way back in like 1920s... it works. Ever since I've been using that tea mixed in with my weekly IPM VEG and FLOWER.. no mold.

IF you wanna smoke or whatever that bad part, you need to dip the buds in H2O2 ... that will kill the mold but ... meh, not even worth the effort IMHO. Just me tho... I usually have a decent head stash... knock wood, Jah is God..on my side.
 
Radogast said:
Sounds like an idea I'd try.

All you are doing is sudsing, agitating, and rinsing :)









How much lemon juice ws with that baking soda? 2 ingredients there working together.
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Im not sure how much lemon juice I used. I followed Pidgeons 420 mag utube video. Its nice to know the B.soda dissolves in water so I can make water hash from it. So people, if I was to wash the brown bud next to he rot and make butter it wouldent of made me sick???? The first stuff washed seems chalky and Id hate to smoke something harmful. Great Day.
 
Mr.Brown, I still have the mind set of not being able to throw the roach away. I try to make good use of everything. I threw the bud rot away but kept the crap next to it. Not no more. Im learning. Im chopping bud rot as soon as I see it this time. My TGA Pergutorys are suppossed to be rot free so we shall see. Plus where Im at its not that cold and wet, not like humboldt. I should be able to keep my rot managed now that I know. Luckily I can grow enough weed to throw the crap away. I just got to practice it. Thanks for the unbiased communication regarding this subject!!! Nice to know there are good people still in this world. You should see my stash thanks to this 420 magazine!!! Fuck Yea!!! Been smoking weed daily for 40 yrs and finally have a place to grow!!! Made my first/own water hash and dry ice hash and its fantastic!!!! 40 yrs smoking weed and dont know shit. Dident know to put it in a jar until a few years ago. Thanks 420 Mag!! Great Day! Wait................. lets get HIGH! :passitleft:
 
I'm a first-time grower and approaching Harvest day. I wish to wash my buds and do the "Slow and Low" drying procedure.

I'm clear on the washing and I vaguely understand the "Slow and Low" drying but I'm not sure if I am supposed to wash before or after the "Slow and low"?

Please give a noob a little advice.
 
KeithVi said:
I'm a first-time grower and approaching Harvest day. I wish to wash my buds and do the "Slow and Low" drying procedure.

I'm clear on the washing and I vaguely understand the "Slow and Low" drying but I'm not sure if I am supposed to wash before or after the "Slow and low"?

Please give a noob a little advice.
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yes, as OttawaGreen suggested...wash 1st.
 
Does everyone use H2o2 in their first washing along with lemon juice and Baking Soda??



On PM/Mold/Bud rot = some form of mold. Basically different molds with the same end result.



Cut it out and toss... not worth getting sick.... all flowers will have some amount of the spores and even some unseen mold growing. We ingest it, just not on purpose in high doses.

Plants genetics and the plants own immune system fight them off. Sometimes they get a hold and grow due to favorable growing conditions (temps/RH) and/or plant health.

Genetics I believe to be the best fight against molds. Kinda like growing a hash plant from Afghanistan where its cold and dry, then taking those genetics and trying to grow that plant at sea level in 90F temps and high RH. Gonna be pretty tough to grow those genetics trouble free. Breeders need to do a lot of selection and with the way things are going these days in the seed industry... its like the California Gold Rush.... everyone is a gold miner now.

/rant

My point = there's science in genetics. Too bad there aren't more Geneticists making canna seeds.
 
Most don't use the hydrogen peroxide. Just the equal parts lemon juice and baking soda.

My favorite breeder is Prof P at Dynastygenetics. He works on strains for years! The first huck kush came out in 2012. We are now on V3 and he is working on V4. His dilligence and hard work can be seen in his strain descriptions which detail phenotypes and their differences, % of phenos, individual growth habits, terps, potency, etc.
 
I've twice used H2O2 because I wasn't able to tackle the RH throughout bloom the way I wanted, so I washed with H2O2 just in case. In both instances, I noticed the buds dried out much quicker than expected. Be mindful of this if you use the h2o2 wash, so you can maintain the integrity of your cure process.
 
Skybound said:
I've twice used H2O2 because I wasn't able to tackle the RH throughout bloom the way I wanted, so I washed with H2O2 just in case. In both instances, I noticed the buds dried out much quicker than expected. Be mindful of this if you use the h2o2 wash, so you can maintain the integrity of your cure process.
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Yes I noticed that... I trimmed the plant I had aphids on and used H2o2 - not very much like 1/4 cup to 3 gallons water...

Those freaking aphids ... I couldn't get them off, well not all of them. I think they are worse than spider mites. At least I can't see the mites. Aphids are right there you can see the dead ones with their proboscis still stuck into the plant... even dead they would let go. I washed the buds 2x thru the 3 cycles. Got most of the aphids but trimming I could see them and they were there...for me that's trashed buds. I had to throw out the buds that were infested.

Just the lower down little nugs so not a big deal, about a 1/8 oz dry so no biggy. If I had a big infestation that would be a major bummer. Mites I washed the last time I had them, again not a big infestation, I knew they were there so wanted to wash them off... they come off pretty easy, unlike the aphids. Plus the aphids leave nectar behind too that causes mold to grow... g'damn those buggers suck.. no pun intended. I had a minor infestation on one plant, all the buds they were on were half eaten I think they were there for 3-4 days tops (in numbers anyway).

I can't imagine outdoor growers seeing that shit in the garden. In my outdoor gardens aphids are mainly only on tomatoes ... not this year yet, they are on a few cardoon plants but they are mainly greens no flowers. We have ants outside and ants love those aphids.

Thanks Shiggs for the heads up. I'll be checking them out for sure.
 
4Dutchess said:
So I wash the bud rotted/WPM'd bud in h202 (peroxide?) lemon juice/baking soda then its safe to injest through butter, water/dry ice hash and smoking bud???
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Absolutely NOT. Bud rot cannot be undone.
 
I agree with what has been said. Any budrot and toss as much away as possible. Any nugs that were affected need washed with h2o2 and any spores left will be killed/washed and minimal amount of wastage will occur. Best to err on the side of caution and throw a little extra away to keep any remaining dead spores to a minimum, that way if you happen to smoke some spores you wont do any major or lasting damage nor get ill through doing so.

Aphids - spray with water mixed with detergent (washing up liquid) or mixed with oil. Blitters slide right off and they wont come back. Or use a bug spray available from most major supermarkets. You'll be washing afterwards so any sprays will be washed off during that process. Rather than toss any buds that still have aphids use them for oil or bubble hash, bubble would be better. Any remains wont get through the 1st 2 screens (220 and 190 or 160 (i use 160 for cooking)) so your bubble will be clean. I smoke my bubble in joints anyway. And ants protect aphids not eat them. Best way to combat aphids and the most environmental way is to get ladybirds. I think you can get ladybird eggs from amazon.
 
It's always been good.
 
I'm still doing it. I do the 3 soaks starting with h202 for the more dense buds. I find that mold only happens if the plant was already prone to being infected/already infected. I had one green kush that even before harvest seemed to be getting a little bit of bud rot because of how dense the bud was and how hot/humid it started getting near the end of the cycle. So in that case those buds get soaked in the h202 for an extended period to make sure the mold doesn't strike while it's drying.

Im a bit neurotic so I still check particular bud spots every so often to make sure the trichomes aren't getting wrecked in the process and they're remaining intact. I'm still waiting on someone to drop a bomb and say what we're doing is wrong but for now I'm satisfied with the quality and seeing how dirty the wash water gets lets me know that it's at least cleaner.
 
COgrowman said:
Thanks for the chime in man. I do have a full beard and have been pulling hairs off the girls for the last few hours today. I do see those strands of hairs in there but I think they are from this string I am using mostly. Either way I might end up washing them just for S&G anyways. Hoping 12 more days for harvest :D

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What is the procedure for washing?
 
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