Bud Washing

ogtank said:
Oh. Cool-cool. Thanks for the confirmation.

Did it really originate from overseas?

Do you know if the original idea for washing had anything to do with water curing?

Is Water Curing a more popular method?





-ogtank
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As far as I know it originated as a way to salvage bad bud or to try to cure black market meds that weren't cured the proper way at all. Then it seemed to gain popularity as a speedier method, and was more popular among medical users for this reason because they felt it meant waiting less time and thought it actually increased potency.

I actually saw a few systems setup with a constant water flow using various pumps. They would just change the water out whenever it got turned green. I remember the theory being that it worked by osmosis to leech impurities and water soluble matter out of the plant matter. Since THC isn't water soluble that meant it wouldn't decrease potency, but since a lot of terpenes were it pretty much eliminated tastes and aroma profile. So it wasn't very popular among anyone but the medicinal users, who valued it as a way to get their meds without waiting for a long cure time or to mitigate quality issues when acquiring from the black market.

Skybound said:
Overgrow was a good site.
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Yeah I learned how to grow on that site first but it got shut down before I ever had a chance to apply my knowledge.
 
Budwashing.....not the same as water curing....was invented by me. Here on 420mag.

I figured since I wash lettuce, peppers, eggplant, strawberries and pretty much everything I consume, perhaps it would be a good idea to wash buds too.

Turns out it's a great idea! So that's how it got started.
 
Doc Bud said:
Budwashing.....not the same as water curing....was invented by me. Here on 420mag.

I figured since I wash lettuce, peppers, eggplant, strawberries and pretty much everything I consume, perhaps it would be a good idea to wash buds too.

Turns out it's a great idea! So that's how it got started.
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Yeah... Definitely NOT the same. But the idea of buds and water was what I was trying to get though to other people who might be hesitant to try Bud Washing. Just an extra example of how people do similar things to their buds. I am aware that there is no other "Bud Washing" technique before this one.

The main reason I wanted to share it here was because I thought it might help some other people get over their fears of dunking their buds into water. And to see other techniques where growers actually put their buds into water for days without any trichome-related issues is really cool stuff.

That was the biggest hurdle for me to get over at first (putting buds into water).

These guys put them in for days with no issues.

I got the idea of washing buds from here too. It just took me awhile to get over those fears.

And then later on, reading in books about other ways growers soak/wash/rinse their buds just proved to me how safe it must be (if you're doing it right).

Thanks again for creating this method and I am super thankful you did.

I would never give any of the patients we cater to anything but washed bud.

Although I did tweak your method to fit our needs and volume, I still would have never known about it if you hadn't invented it.

So Thank You VERY Much DocBud ! ! !

LH&R





-ogtank
 
ogtank said:
Yeah... Definitely NOT the same. But the idea of buds and water was what I was trying to get though to other people who might be hesitant to try Bud Washing. Just an extra example of how people do similar things to their buds. I am aware that there is no other "Bud Washing" technique before this one.

The main reason I wanted to share it here was because I thought it might help some other people get over their fears of dunking their buds into water. And to see other techniques where growers actually put their buds into water for days without any trichome-related issues is really cool stuff.

That was the biggest hurdle for me to get over at first (putting buds into water).

These guys put them in for days with no issues.

I got the idea of washing buds from here too. It just took me awhile to get over those fears.

And then later on, reading in books about other ways growers soak/wash/rinse their buds just proved to me how safe it must be (if you're doing it right).

Thanks again for creating this method and I am super thankful you did.

I would never give any of the patients we cater to anything but washed bud.

Although I did tweak your method to fit our needs and volume, I still would have never known about it if you hadn't invented it.

So Thank You VERY Much DocBud ! ! !

LH&R





-ogtank
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I'd love to hear what you've arrived at for your washing tech. If I was going to adapt for 2+ lbs per wash I'd get a large tank for the lemon/soda and a screen with a gentle high flow sprayer and gently rinse them off and let them dry right there on the screen.
Thanks for the kind words!
 
Doc Bud said:
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I'd love to hear what you've arrived at for your washing tech. If I was going to adapt for 2+ lbs per wash I'd get a large tank for the lemon/soda and a screen with a gentle high flow sprayer and gently rinse them off and let them dry right there on the screen.
Thanks for the kind words!
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What kind of sprayer would you recommend?



-ogtank
 
One of the things that concerns me about bud washing is that I would primarily be doing it for hair and dust, but then I would have to hang it in the same environment that was hairy and dusty, and now it's wet, so wouldn't it just get more dust and hair on it? I really wonder how well washing gets rid of hairs too since they so often get embedded inside of the bud.
 
ogtank said:
What kind of sprayer would you recommend?



-ogtank
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Like you'd find in a large commercial kitchen in the dishwashing area. Hanging from the cieling.
 
Greetings all,

Long time fan of these forums and first time posting. I can't even begin to express my appreciation and thanks to all the participants of this thread, in-particular Hiker for making this thread and Doc Bud for his generosity in sharing knowledge and obvious genuine intentions.

I have spent the past few weeks reading this thread and read every page/post. Must be in the minority because from the start I thought this was an exceptionally good idea and had just about zero concerns.

Although my experiences with Marijuana go back a long time, starting in 1968, this summer is my very first grow and boy am I excited. My son and I both carry California Medical marijuana cards and sick and tired of the unknown factor of how the product I obtain is grown, treated, and certainly not washed. Not any longer if I'm successful. I'm growing 11 plants; 4 Acapulco Gold, 4 Laughing Buddha and 3 Vanilla Kush, all obtained from Attitude Seeds.

Seeds were planted on April 28, 2016 and transplanted outside on June 5, 2016, which places me at week 8 or so. Assume harvest will be mid to end of October and will be washing per instructions provided here. Given all the stuff flying around outside, it's an absolute must-do; no question about it. Look forward to following up on how that goes with all of you at that time. Just wanted to stop in and express my heartfelt thanks and appreciation for all I've learned because of you!!

btw, I posted some questions about concerns I'm having in my grow outside if any of you care to check it out.

Week 8 First Grow - Questions & Concerns

Blessings,

Zafu
 
Hi doc

I'm a grower/dispensary owner in bc. Love your thread. I will be washing 3 4x8 tables today as a test. Read the entire thread, well, I might have skipped about 15% of it as I was speed scrolling parts of it.

Here is my question. Did I miss it, or is there a section that would help explain a method for larger gardens to do this ie 15 to 40 lighters.

If this is as good as everyone is saying it is, then the larger gardens should be employing these methods as well. I will keep you posted on our results. And I am affiliated with a lab for testing.

Here is what I am doing.

Bin 1: 15 gallons of RO water with 900 ml of 29% peroxide
Bin 2: 50 gallons of RO water with 9 cups of baking soda and 9 cups of lemon juice (will do all 3 tables with this resi which also has a fish tank heater inside of it to keep it warm)
Bin 3 and 4: just RO water

Note: bins 1-3&4 will be exchanged after each table

Then, hang dry on stems for 3 instead of 4 days as I've read it speeds up the drying process
Then, keep on stems and put into totes to cure, burping totes every 12 hours, for 4 days.
Then trim and bag.

Your thoughts

It would be great to employ a method for us large gardens to utilize

By the way, we are a no spray gardens. Koppert beneficial bugs all through the veg and flower, works better and is more ethical than using pesticides. Had th Borg (broad mites) and beat them with cucemeris and swiirski and strateolaelaps. But feel the need to remove all my little helpers from finished product as I use a lot of beneficials
 
BCgrown said:
Hi doc

I'm a grower/dispensary owner in bc. Love your thread. I will be washing 3 4x8 tables today as a test. Read the entire thread, well, I might have skipped about 15% of it as I was speed scrolling parts of it.

Here is my question. Did I miss it, or is there a section that would help explain a method for larger gardens to do this ie 15 to 40 lighters.

If this is as good as everyone is saying it is, then the larger gardens should be employing these methods as well. I will keep you posted on our results. And I am affiliated with a lab for testing.

Here is what I am doing.

Bin 1: 15 gallons of RO water with 900 ml of 29% peroxide
Bin 2: 50 gallons of RO water with 9 cups of baking soda and 9 cups of lemon juice (will do all 3 tables with this resi which also has a fish tank heater inside of it to keep it warm)
Bin 3 and 4: just RO water

Note: bins 1-3&4 will be exchanged after each table

Then, hang dry on stems for 3 instead of 4 days as I've read it speeds up the drying process
Then, keep on stems and put into totes to cure, burping totes every 12 hours, for 4 days.
Then trim and bag.

Your thoughts

It would be great to employ a method for us large gardens to utilize

By the way, we are a no spray gardens. Koppert beneficial bugs all through the veg and flower, works better and is more ethical than using pesticides. Had th Borg (broad mites) and beat them with cucemeris and swiirski and strateolaelaps. But feel the need to remove all my little helpers from finished product as I use a lot of beneficials ��
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God bless you for doing this. Your produce is going to improve an order of magnitude.

I always pictured a production line with screens and high flow/low pressure sprayers and large tanks of water for a commercial op. Kind of like what they do with vegetables. Search: commercial produce washers.
 
weedman79 said:
I have never washed my buds...But thinking about it..
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Have you ever washed produce you've picked? Same reason we wash buds.

Do it. There is no rational argument against the practice. None.
 
Not sure about that analogy. If I wash my tomatoes, zucchini, etc. from the store they taste the same, no noticeable difference, perhaps it is healthier, perhaps it was washed at the factory, not sure. Sometimes I don't bother washing vegetables. Saying you wash your vegetables so wash your weed does not convince me.

But, If I wash my bud, there is a HUGE difference. Try it once and you will never want to smoke disgusting unwashed again! See if you can find a single person who tried it, who did not say it was a big improvement and that they don't like unwashed any more. So in conclusion, regardless of your feelings on washing vegetables, Wash your bud, you dirty hippy! ;-)

Oh and for the people who do not foliar spray, who grow indoor hydro with filtered air, washing is still for you, and it still makes a huge difference. Just do it! If you are chicken, then try one plant or one branch the first time and compare. You will never want harsh, unwashed, weed again.

P.s. Not sure if it was directed at me, but was not saying washing produce is bad, just that it is not usually noticeably different. Washing bud is a Huge difference...
 
BCgrown said:
Then, hang dry on stems for 3 instead of 4 days as I've read it speeds up the drying process
Then, keep on stems and put into totes to cure, burping totes every 12 hours, for 4 days.
Then trim and bag.
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That seems like a long way round of doing things. Washing, drying, curing THEN trimming?!? I agree with washing first but would it not make more sense to trim next, then dry then cure. Never heard of anyone trimming last although i have heard that some people dry then trim but to me that just makes trimming sounding like a much harder job.

Ps never washed before but am gonna try it and do blind tests with my mates to see if they notice a difference, only i will know which is washed and which is not.
 
I am gonna bud wash. As i got autos i should get away with doing whole plants at a time. Need to get a couple of buckets for doing so though. As someone said in an earlier post they just did 1 bucket with hot tap water and another with cold water. Will get some lemon juice and baking soda and try that method too. This way i will have unwashed bud, bud washed with just warm then cold water, then finally bud washed in lemon and baking soda then in cold water. Leave to dry after trimming, make bubble with the trim then cure what i have.
 
Glasgrow said:
That seems like a long way round of doing things. Washing, drying, curing THEN trimming?!? I agree with washing first but would it not make more sense to trim next, then dry then cure. Never heard of anyone trimming last although i have heard that some people dry then trim but to me that just makes trimming sounding like a much harder job.

Ps never washed before but am gonna try it and do blind tests with my mates to see if they notice a difference, only i will know which is washed and which is not.
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For me, the very best part of the harvest is the sugar leaves. I like to wash all healthy leaves that have lots of trichomes ON THE BUD. Trim it off when dry and it's the best smoke on the whole plant. 90% of what I personally smoke is sugar leaf, and it's not because I don't have buds. It's because it's the best.

So, if you covet washed sugar leaves, trim last.
 
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