Bud Washing

Justalittle said:
JMO but if you grow your stuff right there is no need for washing. just can't wrap my pea brain around the thought of washing buds.
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You're not alone. But if you try it you'll understand pronto and you'll never skip it again.
 
I haven't had anyone say they noticed a difference between washed/unwashed buds. I've pointed it out before, and people have been surprised the washed buds were actually washed and different than the unwashed buds.

What test results were spoken of earlier about washed vs unwashed product?
 
36Gr0w said:
I haven't had anyone say they noticed a difference between washed/unwashed buds. I've pointed it out before, and people have been surprised the washed buds were actually washed and different than the unwashed buds.

What test results were spoken of earlier about washed vs unwashed product?
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heres what my bucket #1 looks like after I wash 2 plants.

-not a scientist

-I know

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Notice the surroundings. I'm no clean freak.

Buckets after a wash of some nice clean plants. I also foliar spray.

Bottom right, water, bottom left, water/lemon juice/baking soda, top left, water.

I got some buds from a bad snip or two of the scissors, but my buckets aren't brown.



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Doc Bud said:
Gee, I don't know.

What's your theory?

Have you ever tried it?
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No, sorry I don't know either...
I have read the whole thread but found no answer to my question.
If it is written somewhere, please tell me, I am not trying to offend you by asking already answered questions!

I am new to this and have light infection of PM and don't want to mess things up...

I just thought that, since you refer to the Cervantes video, you might have put in some thoughtwork your own?

I mean have you watched the video and then just thought: "I am gonna add 200times as much H2O2 as Cervantes!"

I don't think so. I think you know what you are doing and there is a reason why you use so much more...
Or is it really the "more helps more" attitude, and you add more H2O2 just to make sure everything is killed for sure?

I don't want to offend you or your technique, I have tried the lemon+baking soda buckets before and it really works great!

But now that I got a light PM infection, I want to use the H2O2 bucket too but I am really concerned about getting too much H2O2 on my buds and mess it up...


I would really appreciate if you could share your thinking with us! ;)



Greenest Regards

Budwasher
 
Doc Bud said:
Well, most people thought I was crazy to wash my harvests.

It might just be that I know what I'm talking about....you never know.
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To me it seems that you get really offended by this question, but don't think that I want to question your techniques, I just want to fully understand the process!


Regards
 
The key here is that Cervantes is recommending an almost homeopathic dose of about 0.1% h2O2. Doc bud is about 0.75% H2O2. I think most of the work that Cervantes is getting done is from the mechanical washing. I don't think 0.1% will have an antiseptic effect.
 
budwasher said:
But now that I got a light PM infection, I want to use the H2O2 bucket too but I am really concerned about getting too much H2O2 on my buds and mess it up...
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My first wash, I used roughly 400ml of the 29% H2O2 in 5 gallons of water and it it really sped up the drying process. My second wash, I used about 1/2 of a quart of 3% and it seamed to worked well as the dry was still a bit faster, but not to the degree of my first experience. I know, I know I should've been taken out back and shot for not first consulting Cervantes archives for the "proper" recipe, but I figured so many people have been having such great success with the Doc Bud strategy coupled with the fact that I am a grown man, I gave it a whirl a few times. If you have PM, you should also give it a whirl, or don't at all. Both Doc Bud and Cervantes give us great examples, but I doubt either are chemists and have the ability of measuring the very precise reaction and relation that H2O2 and PM have, and at what exact strength the H2O2 begins to work and further along, at what strength it is then considered too much.
 
Skybound said:
My first wash, I used roughly 400ml of the 29% H2O2 in 5 gallons of water and it it really sped up the drying process. My second wash, I used about 1/2 of a quart of 3% and it seamed to worked well as the dry was still a bit faster, but not to the degree of my first experience. I know, I know I should've been taken out back and shot for not first consulting Cervantes archives for the "proper" recipe, but I figured so many people have been having such great success with the Doc Bud strategy coupled with the fact that I am a grown man, I gave it a whirl a few times. If you have PM, you should also give it a whirl, or don't at all. Both Doc Bud and Cervantes give us great examples, but I doubt either are chemists and have the ability of measuring the very precise reaction and relation that H2O2 and PM have, and at what exact strength the H2O2 begins to work and further along, at what strength it is then considered too much.
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I'm not a chemist.....but I had quite a bit of chemistry in college, a full year of inorganic, followed by a year of organic, concurrent with a year of biochem.

3 to 1. That's the ratio I'm sticking with. Why? Because that is the concentration that will oxidize the cell wall of mold and bacteria. Look it up.

As far as Cervantes, I don't remember what he recommended, but if it was indeed less than 3 to 1 nothing is happening. If you want to kill mold use 3 to 1. If you want to whiten your teeth, use 1 to 1. If you want to burn yourself, go stronger.

The reason I didn't directly answer the question is because it was posed in a confrontational way. No one said, "Hey Doc, why do you recommend 3 to 1?" No, they said "Cervantes says something different than you. Why would Cervantes recommend so much less than you?"

Well, that's total bullshit passive/agressive crap! First of all, I can't comment about what Cervantes might be thinking. I've only met the man twice. Secondly I don't appreciate being set up "against" Cervantes by an anonymous schlub on a pot forum who has no experience using the method. Lastly, I wasn't asked directly why I chose 3 to 1.....no, I was asked to justify my method as compared to someone elses AND opine on that person's thought process.....and all of this to satisfy a stranger I've never met or spoken to who first communication with me is a challenge.

3 to 1. It's common knowledge. Look it up people.
 
ShiggityFlip said:
The key here is that Cervantes is recommending an almost homeopathic dose of about 0.1% h2O2. Doc bud is about 0.75% H2O2. I think most of the work that Cervantes is getting done is from the mechanical washing. I don't think 0.1% will have an antiseptic effect.
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I didn't watch the video so I don't know what he recommended and I don't remember it from the first time I watched it. However, if indeed he's using the dosage suggested by the budwashing experts then it's not doing a damn thing.
 
TheBoogyman said:
my buckets have never turned brown from a wash. I usually just get crap falling off the buds, no coloration of the water.
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Same here,, brown water,, kinda concerns me. I can't think of anything that would do that, our cause it.
 
Doc Bud said:
I'm not a chemist.....but I had quite a bit of chemistry in college, a full year of inorganic, followed by a year of organic, concurrent with a year of biochem.

3 to 1. That's the ratio I'm sticking with. Why? Because that is the concentration that will oxidize the cell wall of mold and bacteria. Look it up.

As far as Cervantes, I don't remember what he recommended, but if it was indeed less than 3 to 1 nothing is happening. If you want to kill mold use 3 to 1. If you want to whiten your teeth, use 1 to 1. If you want to burn yourself, go stronger.

The reason I didn't directly answer the question is because it was posed in a confrontational way. No one said, "Hey Doc, why do you recommend 3 to 1?" No, they said "Cervantes says something different than you. Why would Cervantes recommend so much less than you?"

Well, that's total bullshit passive/agressive crap! First of all, I can't comment about what Cervantes might be thinking. I've only met the man twice. Secondly I don't appreciate being set up "against" Cervantes by an anonymous schlub on a pot forum who has no experience using the method. Lastly, I wasn't asked directly why I chose 3 to 1.....no, I was asked to justify my method as compared to someone elses AND opine on that person's thought process.....and all of this to satisfy a stranger I've never met or spoken to who first communication with me is a challenge.

3 to 1. It's common knowledge. Look it up people.
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Ok so after I wrote that I appreciate your knowledge and have nothing against you, you just want to pin your pissed off answer to the fact that I asked the question in a in your opinion "wrong" way.

I have not much chemistry knowledge, so this is not really common sense to me...

I accept that, and got my answer anyway, so thanks a lot to take the time to mention that too ;)

I have never in any way intended to offend you by any means, so sorry for that!

Regards
 
Just washed some again today. I wouldn't say "brown" water, if anything than slightly beige. But I don't expect it brown especially since my flowering plants are outside and there is the one or the other occasional rain, although very rare :) Means, the plants are obviously not THAT (visibly) "dirty" that lots of brown gunk would come off. But I know I mistakenly sprayed during flower a few times...and I have also seen all kinds of bugs at times, caterpillars etc....and it sure cannot hurt to wash that stuff and their poop away. I have no reason to believe that bud washing is "bad" whatsoever, and if I had lemon juice and baking soda available I'd likely always chose to wash after harvest. (Today I actually made a quick run to the store for the lemon juice :) )
 
I believe my brown water comes from foliars mostly.

My ladies grow in a metropolitan area and I'm guessing pick up alot of smog and dust as well.

Also that was 2 bigass plants.

Can't keep up with demand.
 
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