Bud Washing

Kingjoe83 said:
But I hope this helps allow me be able to actually follow your path again.
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Hehe - too funny king! All good. Hope your day is a good one :thumb:
 
I hate to hijack a thread with an issue not bud washing related but with the amount of people that view this post I may get an answer to which i cannot find an answer for. Trying to forceflower a strawberry blue so if finishes by end of sept. Problem is i cant fully cover my plant as it too big. Have stuffed as many side branches in as i can but the bottom 1/3 (approx) is uncovered. Will this cause a problem and will it actually flower or will this light prevent it from flowering? The plant does have a few pistils that i can see. As for the plant being stuffed in this cover you may mention it will sweat. Dont sweat about it as the cover only on from 5/6pm till after sunset so it only on for around 4 hours or so. Will be doing this for about a week or 2 where the daylight will be down to around 16 hours per day so it shouldnt re-veg.
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Ps I now always wash my buds. The amount of crap they pick up outdoors is unreal not to mention if you find an infestation of bugs after a harvest. Did that recently on an auto amnesia haze and it had just started so was able to get rid of this from washing.
 
Moisture will escape at the bottom of the bag. Like i said, it only on for 4 hours each day for a week or 2. Once the bag is removed then it gets the chance to breathe properly again. Just wanting to know if the light at the bottom of the bag will stop it from being forceflowered? It is not direct sunlight.
 
@Glasgrow
I have no experience to answer with any sureness... but my initial thought is that it’s still getting light on those lower leaves so not sure what the plant is going to make of that. But if there’s already preflowers maybe you already good?
I really don’t know though and you’re right this ain’t really the place for the question... have you posted it in the ask anything thread or the Outdoor growing section of the forum?

Outdoor Growing

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Doc Bud said:
I'm glad to see people are adopting my bud washing technique!

Yes, I "invented" it. I shared it with you folks here on 420....and nowhere else. I've never met, spoken to, or heard about anyone else doing it before I tried it.....and I enjoy freaking people out by putting fresh buds in a bucket of water....

But as many have said here, the results speak for themselves!

Let me put it to you like this:

Let's say I grew lettuce, cucumbers, tomatos and carrots in my basement. It's dusty down there, I've got fans flowing all around....battled with some PM, had some mites.....every now and then I get some rot or other disease on my plants....bugs flying around, dead skin cells, hair.....and I spray the plants with compost tea, fish fertilizer, kelp meal, etc.

So, you wanna come over for a salad? We'll just pull the veggies out of the ground, plop 'em in a bowl and start eating! No need to wash.....right?

The first time you wash your harvest and see all that brown crap left behind you'll begin to see the light! Then, when you smoke your first washed harvest, you'll understand.

For those who are new to this, here's my method:

4 buckets total. (5 gallon buckets are perfect)

Bucket 1: 3 parts RO water to 1 part 3% H202.
Bucket 2: 5 gallons of RO with 1 cup baking soda, 1 cup Lemon Juice
Buckets 3 and 4: RO only.

Cut down plants, pull off fan leaves by hand, remove any necrotic leaves. Leave sugar leaves and anything with frosting on the plant.

Fully submerge in bucket 1 (H2O2) for 30 seconds. Submerge for a full minute if you had ANY sign of PM or bud rot. Let water drip from buds and then.....

Fully submerge in buckets 2 through 4 for 30 seconds each...lightly agitating the whole time.

Allow produce to drip dry. You can blow a fan on it if you like, just make sure it's blowing clean air.

Hang and dry per usual.

Final manicure of buds is best done after they dry. It goes very fast and you're left with washed, highly resinous trim....makes superb joints. I'm also educating my customers to select untrimmed buds, which are actually better than the manicured ones because they still have sugar leaves attached. The trichomes in the leaves have more THC than those in the buds.....so it's good to get the whole spectrum in there.

I give instructions for this in my journals, as I do it every single week, on every single harvest. Once you try it, you'll never go back.

This works so well for a couple reasons:

1. takes off dirt, foliar sprays, bugs, fiberglass dust, etc.
2. fully hydrates the leaves, allowing photosynthesis to occur for a day or two on cut and trimmed buds. I recommend leaving a light on the buds for the first day or two after washing.

This results in very, dense, clean burning, smooth tasting produce! That's the basic recipe....and I'm tweaking and changing it all the time.

Warning: Do NOT use an "organic produce wash" that is based on oils! They sell these in grocery stores and health food stores, and while they might be good for lettuce and cukes....the oil removes resin from the plants.....don't use it!

Water will not harm resin....oil can and does.

Anyone who wants to know more about my methods is welcome to ask me about them anytime!
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So ehh, what's up with your formula doc? (snicker) Loony Tunes aside. Sorry if you have heard a thousand times. I tip my hat at your genius. why did you settle on amount of acid to base in your second bucket? Have you tried anything besides lemon juice for an acid? Other possibilities vinegar white / apple cider or lime grapefruit etc.

I have just been reading about water curing because I chose to spray my plants twice so far & am in week 2 of flower. First I thought I had issue with nutes, then PH, next maybe gnats or white flies (not up on my pests yet) then about 2.5 weeks ago I became convince the yellowing leaves now I think spider mites but have yet to actually see a mite.

That is really why I was looking at water cures, I finally de-lurked and signed up couple days back for some med / dosing / strain advice. I am so glad I did I never considered just a wash, and certainly not for already dried bud. As I am just trying to finish my first grow now this is awesome I have choice how to wash. If there is a link to your wash methods elsewhere feel free to point me there as well. But I am interested in your logic of the wash I saw first mention of it from Sweet Sue just a day ago.

I like to know why choices were made originally for hacking my own washes maybe in the future. I was so bummed that I have now treated my girls twice so far: first Ivory Soap & Neem Oil tonight with a Spinisad SP? based product and I could have done so earlier. I learned a few things growing the hard way but am delighted that I just wash and/or water cure my own produce I can feel so much better about consuming it after spraying .

I think even if there was no foliar feeding a wash would be great just from hair, dust possible molds. I think I will try on some dried bud. I have to do black market until I harvest my own. I swear 90% of what I have purchased the past year or so since returning to cannabis use has mold. I am way allergic my sinuses slam shut often after I imbibe. Not sure washing will do much to remove from dried bud but it's worth a shot.
 
I personally wouldn't wash dried buds. If there's anything in there, I doubt it would wash off at that point, plus then the buds would be wet again and have to be dried again. FWIW, I washed my first harvest (back near page 10) and have been washing each and every singe harvest since.
 
Skybound said:
I personally wouldn't wash dried buds. If there's anything in there, I doubt it would wash off at that point, plus then the buds would be wet again and have to be dried again. FWIW, I washed my first harvest (back near page 10) and have been washing each and every singe harvest since.
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Hi skybound. I'll be washing for the first time if my outdoor grow finishes. I think and hope it will. Anyway, are you using the recipe for the wash on page one of this journal?
 
Amy Gardner said:
High all

Dropping in here to share a few pics of my recent harvest and bud wash. This is a CBD Critical Cure from Barney’s Farm, grown organically outdoors under the sun (southern hemisphere). Harvested about a week early maybe due to a week of rains being imminent and other factors.

My wash buckets were; 1st with half cup bi-carb and half cup lime juice, 2nd and 3rd with water (rain water). No PM so no H202 required.

Clean buckets :thumb:

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Day of harvest - CBD Critical Cure (Barney's Farm). Slightly early harvest - but those bottom...

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And this is why we wash!!
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Some morning delight to sign off...

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:Namaste:
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Thanks for the tutorial. I'm all in soon.
 
Amy Gardner said:
Hi again - dropping in with my next harvest including some post wash closeups. My nugs aren’t as frosty as Graytail’s (Gray’s postwash frost) but still in good nic after their washing...

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:Namaste:
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Such beautiful girls and I love the line across the yard. Another good idea!
 
TheFertilizer said:
I didn't really find much help removing that heavy duct tape debris with the bud washing either. I mean, I just don't believe it has enough abrasive action to really lift and separate large pieces that are stuck on it with much force, even with that nice foamy action from the lemon juice and baking soda. I'm wondering if in extreme cases, if you could put something like a bunch of soft-rubbler bristle scrubbers into the bucket, and rub the cola gently up against the sides. You'd definitely damage the trichomes and plant material somewhat, but in that gross removal of material you'd probably remove more stubborn contaminate. I think it would merit the sacrifice in cases of really heavy contamination, and you could essentially call it a "rescue bucket".

Here's my other idea... Developed in literally the last 3 seconds.

Cut up a bunch of corks. Try to pry off any loose bits with your finger first so you don't end up with cork contaminate, but then just toss them at the top of the wash. They'll create a floating layer that will "scrub" at the sides of the cola as you dunk it through them. The thicker the layer, the more scrubbing. You could even cut the bits up into larger and more moderate chunks for a more fine or coarse scrub. I'm thinking "fine" would be 1/4" cubic chunks, medium 1/2" and large 1". The only problem is that's a lot of cork for a 5 gallon bucket. Might need to make something like a 2 liter single-cola dunk tank as a pre-cursor to the rest of the buckets.

Anyway, apparently my last harvest was pretty good 'cause I'm rambling, but is anyone on board with what I'm suggesting? I know it's not generally needed because most people don't fuck up and get duct tape bits all over their buds, but still, I'm sure I'm not the only person to have got a bunch of crap on their buds, and it seems this is one scenario that needs some extra mojo.

ON an aside note... This is literally the only time it was a "good" thing to have got a low yield, because it was easy to remove all the crap by hand. But that's what gives me the conclusion that the wash didn't really get rid of much of it.
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Hi Thefertilizer thanks for the thoughts. I had a good laugh when you mentioned the corks. Did you ever see the saturday night live episode where the crew were a bunch of cork soakers? It's an oldie and I remember laughing my ass off. Thanks for the chuckle.
 
Kingjoe83 said:
Just don’t over due the lemon juice your gold buddy
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Unless I'm told differently I plan to use the recipe on page 1 of Doc Buds tutorial pages
 
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