Bud Washing

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Originally Posted by gloman I tried water washing some already dried and not cured very well.
I'm going to assume because the buds were already dried is why it did not turn out well.
I used fairly warm water, but not HOT, let the buds soak till the water was cool, rinsed with fresh cool water and repeated the whole process.
The first soak water turned amber, I was hoping that didn't mean my precious trich's were being knocked off.
The second rinse was almost colorless.
Next I hung the buds up over a bowl to catch run off then set a fan directly in front of them to dry.
As I suspected, a LOT of the trich's were lost in the water.
The smoke was for lack of a better word, "blan".
Before the soak there was a small bite from improper cure, but good flavor and stone.
After, not so much.
I'll try on some fresh cut next harvest (Sept.) to see if it helps.
I really do like the idea of cleansing my "salad". lol







Peace, Andy. :Namaste:
 
I've developed the beginnings of spider mites a couple days ago and was going to start flushing anyway, but I'm wondering, will this bath Doc's kindly laid out for us, will this kill off any mites in the h202? Should I consider a higher strength?

I haven't sprayed the girls with anything, and I'd really rather no start just for the flush.

Thanks Doc, Andy. :Namaste:
 
I show up to read the latest posts and sheesh ... twisted panties ALL over the place! :laughtwo:

LOL, seriously, from an objective perspective, it's a hoot! Heheh, no full moon ... dunno what to attribute it to.

:bongrip::popcorn:
 
The age old arguement over growing clean produce, and washing mold off dirty product apparently continues on...

From my objective perspective, we should be trying to grow a better plant, instead of trying to hide our failures. Cleaning mold off of buds should be a last ditch effort, not a backup plan.
 
This is supposed to be a kind forum with us sharing our views, opinions and grows and helping other people when things go wrong so that those mistakes are not repeated. Some of us may not agree with what has been said but this comes down to peoples personal opinions and what they have done that works.

If people dont agree with a method then that is fine. So long as we all have some decent but at the end to chill with then that is fine, that is the aim after all. We can by all means debate certain ways of doing things but can it be done so in a manner that is friendly and constructive please? Manners cost nothing.

Chill out people, skin up a phat one, get some munchies, get a movie or the playstation out and enjoy!
 
McCdive said:
I've developed the beginnings of spider mites a couple days ago and was going to start flushing anyway, but I'm wondering, will this bath Doc's kindly laid out for us, will this kill off any mites in the h202? Should I consider a higher strength?

I haven't sprayed the girls with anything, and I'd really rather no start just for the flush.

Thanks Doc, Andy. :Namaste:
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You don't need peroxide to wash off mites. But washing with the three buckets.
 
36Gr0w said:
The age old arguement over growing clean produce, and washing mold off dirty product apparently continues on...

From my objective perspective, we should be trying to grow a better plant, instead of trying to hide our failures. Cleaning mold off of buds should be a last ditch effort, not a backup plan.
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In the case of those of use that use foliar feeds but don't have any mold this technique can be invaluable in bringing a clean healthy product to the table. Things like soil contamination on leaves can be an issue as well. We all know mold lives in the soil. Yeah for me I have never had a powdery mildew problem or bud rot indoors, but if I did you can be sure it wouldn't make it outside of my house. I dont want that kind of karma coming my way. What if an asthmatic had a reaction to it? Still for self consumption if people want too use their bud that has had mold issues it is a personal decision.
 
Hey doc!

I have read that if the H2O2 bucket is used because of PM, the buds tend to dry down too fast and will not stay in the curing zone if jared...

Do you have any tips to slow down the drying process?
Can I keep the RH at a curing level if I add boveda packs to the jars?

Does it really dries faster because of the high dosed H2O2 treatment or because of other reasons?

I am really into your method and apprechiate your knowledge!

Looking forward to hear from you!
 
burntleaf said:
Hey doc!

I have read that if the H2O2 bucket is used because of PM, the buds tend to dry down too fast and will not stay in the curing zone if jared...

Do you have any tips to slow down the drying process?
Can I keep the RH at a curing level if I add boveda packs to the jars?

Does it really dries faster because of the high dosed H2O2 treatment or because of other reasons?

I am really into your method and apprechiate your knowledge!

Looking forward to hear from you!
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I didn't notice a problem at all when I tried the peroxide bath. I did it twice. No issue.

I dry buds in a room that ranges from 65 to 70 degrees, 55-60% RH.
 
Hiker said:
How do you do it?

My technique was based off instructions from Curso.

I use 3 5g buckets. The first bucket has room temp, ie not cold, water with the lemon juice and baking soda. The second bucket has the hottest water I can get from the faucet. The last bucket is the coldest water I can get.

I do a pre-trim on each branch to remove any leaves without crystals. Then I dunk each branch several times and swirl them around a bit. When I dunked the branches, I did it fast enough to get the water sloshing around real good. I imagined I'm trying to get the water to get into all the nooks and crannies with some force to help clean out the dirt. I do each bucket for 10-30 seconds including a few second to let them water drain off before moving them to the next bucket.

After the last rinse, I hang them on a string above the bucket so it can drip back into the bucket. As I wash more buds, I slide the others to the side to make room so the freshest is always dripping over the bucket.

I let them dry about 24 hours before trimming. If I tried to manicure sooner than that, they felt too wet.

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I will apoligize in advance if this has already been covered but the fact of the matter is I am old, have bad eyes and the thought of reading 85 pages to find the answer to my question seems silly to me.
In the 1st bucket you mention adding lemon juice and baking soda which makes sense to me but I do not see any amounts for each. Being the 1st dinner I made for my wife was steamed halibut in lemon juice, and I did not know the amount of lemon juice to add, I do not care to relive that event. It was like biting into a halibut steak shaped lemon.
Thanks in advance for not making this old man read all 85 pages:Love:
 
Doc Bud said:
I'm glad to see people are adopting my bud washing technique!

Yes, I "invented" it. I shared it with you folks here on 420....and nowhere else. I've never met, spoken to, or heard about anyone else doing it before I tried it.....and I enjoy freaking people out by putting fresh buds in a bucket of water....

But as many have said here, the results speak for themselves!

Let me put it to you like this:

Let's say I grew lettuce, cucumbers, tomatos and carrots in my basement. It's dusty down there, I've got fans flowing all around....battled with some PM, had some mites.....every now and then I get some rot or other disease on my plants....bugs flying around, dead skin cells, hair.....and I spray the plants with compost tea, fish fertilizer, kelp meal, etc.

So, you wanna come over for a salad? We'll just pull the veggies out of the ground, plop 'em in a bowl and start eating! No need to wash.....right?

The first time you wash your harvest and see all that brown crap left behind you'll begin to see the light! Then, when you smoke your first washed harvest, you'll understand.

For those who are new to this, here's my method:

4 buckets total. (5 gallon buckets are perfect)

Bucket 1: 3 parts RO water to 1 part 3% H202.
Bucket 2: 5 gallons of RO with 1 cup baking soda, 1 cup Lemon Juice
Buckets 3 and 4: RO only.

Cut down plants, pull off fan leaves by hand, remove any necrotic leaves. Leave sugar leaves and anything with frosting on the plant.

Fully submerge in bucket 1 (H2O2) for 30 seconds. Submerge for a full minute if you had ANY sign of PM or bud rot. Let water drip from buds and then.....

Fully submerge in buckets 2 through 4 for 30 seconds each...lightly agitating the whole time.

Allow produce to drip dry. You can blow a fan on it if you like, just make sure it's blowing clean air.

Hang and dry per usual.

Final manicure of buds is best done after they dry. It goes very fast and you're left with washed, highly resinous trim....makes superb joints. I'm also educating my customers to select untrimmed buds, which are actually better than the manicured ones because they still have sugar leaves attached. The trichomes in the leaves have more THC than those in the buds.....so it's good to get the whole spectrum in there.

I give instructions for this in my journals, as I do it every single week, on every single harvest. Once you try it, you'll never go back.

This works so well for a couple reasons:

1. takes off dirt, foliar sprays, bugs, fiberglass dust, etc.
2. fully hydrates the leaves, allowing photosynthesis to occur for a day or two on cut and trimmed buds. I recommend leaving a light on the buds for the first day or two after washing.

This results in very, dense, clean burning, smooth tasting produce! That's the basic recipe....and I'm tweaking and changing it all the time.

Warning: Do NOT use an "organic produce wash" that is based on oils! They sell these in grocery stores and health food stores, and while they might be good for lettuce and cukes....the oil removes resin from the plants.....don't use it!

Water will not harm resin....oil can and does.

Anyone who wants to know more about my methods is welcome to ask me about them anytime!
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Here it is OG brought straight to you from Doc Bud.
 
I Apologize to the room. I will remove myself from here and not trouble you with inane questions. I guess I just don't respond well sometimes

Peace, Andy.:Namaste:
 
36Gr0w said:
The age old arguement over growing clean produce, and washing mold off dirty product apparently continues on...
From my objective perspective, we should be trying to grow a better plant, instead of trying to hide our failures. Cleaning mold off of buds should be a last ditch effort, not a backup plan.
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ShiggityFlip said:
In the case of those of use that use foliar feeds but don't have any mold this technique can be invaluable in bringing a clean healthy product to the table. Things like soil contamination on leaves can be an issue as well. We all know mold lives in the soil. Yeah for me I have never had a powdery mildew problem or bud rot indoors, but if I did you can be sure it wouldn't make it outside of my house. I dont want that kind of karma coming my way. What if an asthmatic had a reaction to it? Still for self consumption if people want too use their bud that has had mold issues it is a personal decision.
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I have to say this, look guys, at no time did I say I had mold, rot, powdery mildew or anything else! I asked a question about mites. You've never had them? Well god bless you then. I do. I asked a question and was imedeatly bertated for essencially being uneducated. Aren't we all here to get an education? That's what I was trying to do. I may have been harsh, but don't judge people till you've walked in thier shoes. Ask before you assume. That's it. Grow-on people!
 
McCdive said:
36Gr0w said:
The age old arguement over growing clean produce, and washing mold off dirty product apparently continues on...
From my objective perspective, we should be trying to grow a better plant, instead of trying to hide our failures. Cleaning mold off of buds should be a last ditch effort, not a backup plan.
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ShiggityFlip said:
In the case of those of use that use foliar feeds but don't have any mold this technique can be invaluable in bringing a clean healthy product to the table. Things like soil contamination on leaves can be an issue as well. We all know mold lives in the soil. Yeah for me I have never had a powdery mildew problem or bud rot indoors, but if I did you can be sure it wouldn't make it outside of my house. I dont want that kind of karma coming my way. What if an asthmatic had a reaction to it? Still for self consumption if people want too use their bud that has had mold issues it is a personal decision.
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I have to say this, look guys, at no time did I say I had mold, rot, powdery mildew or anything else! I asked a question about mites. You've never had them? Well god bless you then. I do. I asked a question and was imedeatly bertated for essencially being uneducated. Aren't we all here to get an education? That's what I was trying to do. I may have been harsh, but don't judge people till you've walked in thier shoes. Ask before you assume. That's it. Grow-on people!
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McCdive, Doc answered you in post# 1266 :)
 
"Do...or Do not...there is no try"---Yoda :thumb:

Once you "try" it, you'll understand what we all learned from Doc. :idea:

Recently finished my second "Doc" grow and just finished washing some... Black Triangle(Bodhi), Twisted Fruit(MotoRebel) and some Blue Lime Pie(Sin City).

There is no way I would have dunked such fine strains if I did not totally believe in the process. They are currently drying and will be jarred over the next few days.

Take the plunge...you'll thank yourself later...:Namaste:
 
The consensus hasn't shifted away from the original recipe by Doc Bud except for reasons of personal choice.
 
Camo420Grow said:
So is the best thing to do is not use hot water anymore correct? I've read and read and can't seem to remember where I saw no use hot water anymore. I was gonna go 1 cup lemon juice& 1 cup baking soda, water, water. All room temp water. What do you guys recommend on my technique . I would love any kind advice
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that's how I do it.
 
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