Bruce Banner: Search For The Incredible Hulk

[Wastei]

Hi @Diatomacious - may I ask you a question? Or two? This blows my mind. Are you saying I could in theory, collect my dogs pee, dilute it 50% with tap water, ph it, and feed it to my plants? I assume this is for organics, yes? If that is what you are saying, besides wtf (lol), is there a better time to use this in terms of the plants life cycle? And is it something one can buy? Also, what do you mean by “excellent growth?”

Ok, several questions. Lol. Thanks very much. I’ve never heard this before and it’s crazy. One more - would human urine function the same way? It’s way easier to collect. Lmao.

Thanks again.

What about the "toxic" ammonia salt in pee? We can't have that right? Lol!

Urine has a NPK of about 10-0.5-3 and urea is a common ingredient in many nutrient formulas.

Urea N --> Ammonium N --> Nitrate N

That's the natural breakdown cycle of Urea Nitrogen.

Cheers!

 

[Diatomacious]

What about the "toxic" ammonia salt in pee? We can't have that right?

Yes ammonia is a waste product of animals. It's in both pee and poop as far as I can tell. That's why I'm not comfortable with the government dumping my human waste in the river. Even with their minimal treatment at wastewater treatment facilities they will never get all the ammonia out before it gets dumped (it takes many months in the soil for microbes to convert the ammonia to nitrate). I also feel that's why the Mississippi dead zone, and other dead zones around the world, are occurring. A dead zone is an anoxic zone (oxygen free or deprived area) in the ocean where very little life exists. Couple that with the fact the ocean produces 80% of our oxygen and you have found the culprit behind global warming. Enjoy your crucifixion Jesus, God the Father has spoken.

Urea N --> Ammonium N --> Nitrate N

You left out denitrification... the final step.

Urea -> Ammonia -> Nitrate -> Nitrogen gas

Peace

 

[Diatomacious]

Here is a pic of some grass with human waste applied.

How long will it take me to do the whole yard?

 

[Jon]

I have used it in the yard by simply diluting it with tap water and yes plants green up like you gave them miracle grow. Takes about a week or two to notice the results. You must dilute it or it will burn your plants, maybe even cut it in half with water ie add the same volume of water as urine, you'll just have to experiment. You can use animal or even human pee, just be careful not to splash it on your buds as that's kind of gross.

Whenever your plants need a feeding is the best time. This could be considered organic but I feel that really depends on your diet. The better you eat the better your urine is for fertilizer. Eating vegetables will ensure the missing elements (the ones not accounted for in chemical fertilizer) are present in the pee. Dogs will eat vegetables, like they eat grass. The bacteria in the plant matter makes their tummy feel better. I hear they love carrots.

No need to buy it when you produce it every single day. The only problem I could think of with using it indoors is the smell. I have not used it indoor myself only out in the yard because of this reason so I'm only assuming. Maybe try it on one plant to see how it goes.

The plants get visibly greener, leaves fatten up more than untreated. If you try it by dumping some on some grass or plants in the yard you will understand.

The real thing about urine is the missing elements from modern chemical fertilizer formulas. It actually makes urine a better fertilizer, especially if you eat a lot of vegetables.

I hope I've been able to answer some of your questions. If not feel free to ask me anything.

You certainly have and thank you very much! Wow. Very interesting. Yeah, I will try it on a plant and see. Thanks again. Happy 4/20.

 

[Jon]

Yes ammonia is a waste product of animals. It's in both pee and poop as far as I can tell. That's why I'm not comfortable with the government dumping my human waste in the river. Even with their minimal treatment at wastewater treatment facilities they will never get all the ammonia out before it gets dumped (it takes many months in the soil for microbes to convert the ammonia to nitrate). I also feel that's why the Mississippi dead zone, and other dead zones around the world, are occurring. A dead zone is an anoxic zone (oxygen free or deprived area) in the ocean where very little life exists. Couple that with the fact the ocean produces 80% of our oxygen and you have found the culprit behind global warming. Enjoy your crucifixion Jesus, God the Father has spoken.

You left out denitrification... the final step.

Urea -> Ammonia -> Nitrate -> Nitrogen gas

Peace

Wow. I’m impressed.

 

[Diatomacious]

Yeah, I will try it on a plant and see.

Eat some organic vegetables before you do. Your body will turn the vegetables into water solubilized nutrient, pee.

You should really try using plant based organics IMO. You simply dry out the plants, chop them into as small a pieces as you can and mix them into your soil. When the plants break down they supply "All" of the nutrients required by your growing crop. You can use grass clippings, weeds pulled from the yard or any healthy looking plant material (green leaves and shoots are the best).

 

[Diatomacious]

Interesting note. I have been unable to burn my plants adding excessive amounts of vegetative fertilizer. NPK concentrations that would normally burn plants using chemical nutrient only promote healthy vigorous growth using only plants as fertilizer. The only burn I have seen is from using too little vegetative matter. Yellowing and browning have been observed when not enough plant material is added (probably due to a deficiency of the element or elements missing from known plant required nutrient).

I did have to increase the concentration of nutrient in the last plant as I was noting a hidden hunger causing lack of growth (will be interesting to see how much weight is harvested). This could also be attributed to diminishing concentrations of these elements in farm soils due to use of chemical nutrient lacking in these required elements.

 

[Diatomacious]

I have also determined the reason the Bible says not to eat leavened bread. The biological waste of the yeast left behind in the bread is a contaminant to the body. Your body is that sensitive to these types of contaminants. These are also the contaminants that soil microbes will break down during organic decomposition rendering them biologically safe. So make sure to eat your organic vegetables as the microbes not only live in the soil but also your intestine where they continue to digest harmful contaminants which your body would otherwise feed from.

 

[Diatomacious]

Some finish up pics of the last organic attempt. I started this one off using potassium sulfate and langbeinite to increase Mg and K levels to hit my targets. I should have just used plant material all the way, maybe a little fish bone for phosphorous. The pH was also very acidic from the start @ about 5.5. I did try to compensate when I noticed the lack of growth with a top dress of alfalfa and oyster meal but it did not seem to be enough. All in all the plant did not do badly.

There was some yellowing and browning which could be attributed to insufficient fertilizer or low pH.

Bud formation was not optimal, you can see the dwarfing at the tip of the bud. My next attempt is looking much better as I used more plant material as fertilizer.

Any thoughts or points of view are appreciated. Please post them.

 

[Diatomacious]

Urine should have a high concentration of the missing elements, especially if you eat a lot of vegetables. They are not required in animal anatomy and pass in the urine stream. I'm eager to hear if @Jon had any interesting insights from it's use. I have used it outdoors and it is an amazing fertilizer for plant growth.

This is the very reason that dumping wastewater, even treated, into our rivers and oceans is a bad idea and the cause of global warming and mass oceanic die offs of fish and other wildlife. Use it on your plants please.

 

[Diatomacious]

This girl has got my attention. She is grown with only alfalfa, fish bone and sea salt with some oyster shell for pH balance. This is the same Bruce Banner I have grown throughout this journal. Lovely shade of green and the leaves are nice and full.

 

[Diatomacious]

How long will it take me to do the whole yard?

Well my grass absolutely loved the extra fertilizer. I have several bunny rabbits that also give it a thumbs up as they have decided to hang out and enjoy the cuisine.

It seems that mycelia in the soil helped to spread out the nutrient from the decay of the human waste. I simply dumped in different spots and let the feces soak into the soil. The decay is quite rapid and usually gone within a week if we have rain. Never noticed any smell but I can smell the sewer vent stack on top of the house when the wind blows just right.

Much better option than dumping wastewater into the river and killing off aquatic life as well as causing excess CO2 to build up in the atmosphere. No digging or otherwise trying to dispose of the waste other than applying it directly to the top soil as a top dressing. Rinse out the bucket with the hose to dilute before application.

Edit: Forgot... I can't reiterate enough do not put toilet paper in with the human waste! It will chemically contaminate the soil and make everything taste horrible!

 

[Diatomacious]

Latest results looking good though my pH was a little too high. This one is grown in 5 gallon cloth bag using only alfalfa, fish meal, oyster shell and sea salt for nutrient. Hairs are staying nice and white for now.

Edit: not fish meal but fish bone meal oops