Brown edges during flowering

[Faic]

There is a very good thread at another site, google "Diagnose your deficiencies here - EASY Learning table" and you should find the link at that place. Very good pictures, far better than that painted artwork.

If you are adjusting pH and checking it, how can you be unsure if you're lowering the pH? Villageidiot is correct about multiple deficiencies.

This is a great place to get good answers, but it's still GIGO. (garbage in, garbage out)

Are you in soil or hydro?

What nutes: FF, but which ones, and how are you using them? One per phase, or all at once? What strength...

What is your pH, and how are you testing this?

What lights?

How far into your grow?

FWIW, I think that's deficiencies from lack of nutes, or pH problems (resulting in lack of nutes). When my girls get into the autosarcophagy, it's lowest leaves first.

 

[NwGrowers206]

1000 watt cfl, in flowering stage about a month, space queen. And I'm embarrassed to say I dont remember the soil. But i know it it was an organic with no added nutrients.

As far as ph testing goes I have the old school strips. I always test before I water and ph is between 5.5 and 6 at my best estimate. However I never thought about nutes lowering the ph so those measurements are before adding fertilizer. And fertilizer has been fox farm big bloom and fox farm extra strength fed at regular dosage about every 4 days.

 

[Faic]

Ah, get a pen, takes all the guess work out. Add nutes, pH adjust, feed. Check your runoff pH as well. It's a bit harder to manage pH in soil , but going in at 6.3 works for me. I use GH flora nutes, with calimag and tree savior. Before trying the tree savior (it works but it smells) it was GH flora, hydroguard and silica blast and calimag for soil and hydro, just correct pH for each medium.

 

[Papageno]

5.5 -6 is for hydro and your pics show soil. So you were probably running way too low the whole time. But again we keep asking for this info and not getting it.

You have pistils that are brown so you are at least half way through Bloom unless they are browning from early maturity. Since you may have had too low of pH for absorption to occur you may just be browning because there is not enough nutes available to them. By the physiology one can tell they have been through a lot of stress. Since they have stunted and rebounded they may be closer to the end then that look or they may be right in the middle of coming back full steam it is hard to tell. Get that pH up to closer to 6.5 and you may see some improvement. But pH takes some time in soil to really turn.

Still not bad for your first grow.

If pH is the problem then get some beneficial bacteria to go with the sugars and they will help tremendously at getting the rebound to occur. Off the shelf you can use Voodoo Juice. Or follow the link I place below. At the very end I added a recipe that will fix this. In soil it is not too hot as I mention just in DWC it can be if you are not careful. As you make it dump in the sugars every 12 hours and right before adding it to the plants. Each plant takes about 2-3 cups of the tea when done and filtered. That recipe will do probably in soil 6 plants. When I mention I am dialing it is still it is for my DWC system as I have a large res feeding multiple plants so that is a a bit more difficult to get the right dose.

Tea Bag your DWC

 

[Papageno]

some nute problems will take 5 days or more to show they are good again and bad leave do not recover. So since you are not in the Fan Leaf growing phase you will have to be very observant of new growth and be patient.

And I agree with Faic...this site has a "not so good" sticky on understanding problems. They will not let us link you to the good ones. They wont even let us copy the content from the good ones here. So use Google and you might find the one I have book marked. It has a blue background on the website.

 

[Faic]

some nute problems will take 5 days or more to show they are good again and bad leave do not recover. So since you are not in the Fan Leaf growing phase you will have to be very observant of new growth and be patient.

And I agree with Faic...this site has a "not so good" sticky on understanding problems. They will not let us link you to the good ones. They wont even let us copy the content from the good ones here. So use Google and you might find the one I have book marked. It has a blue background on the website.

IC we have the same site bookmarked.

 

[Papageno]

Well even an idiot like me knows how to use the google.

I stumbled onto this site decades after I started growing. It wasn't the first site I found and it is not the only site I use. In fact the most valuable sites have nothing to do with cannabis because it is just a plant and is not that special of one really.

When I started there was no place like this and the only info you could get was from Ed's book (which you had to buy at a book store) or a High time magazine. All this online availability just blows me away. It makes people so lazy because they don't have to do anything. You can get expert answers in a very short explanation without learning anything or knowing why. But NOW like you said, anybody can give out advice even if they never grew a single plant in there life.

But more valuable is there are tons of real Horticulture sites on how to do proper gardening and Hydro and indoor gardening so you can learn sooooo much from your home now. Sometimes however I think the DEA is on here trolling for idiots and giving out the worst advice possible because the stuff I read here sometimes is just so wrong.

Most people are asking basic questions that are just standard plant biology, physiology chemistry ...Horticulture stuff. And it has nothing to do with cannabis...but they come here to ask a bunch of pot heads about like "how to sprout a seed".

Makes me laugh a lot.

Oh Oh what makes me laugh the most is when people are arguing over scientific definitions like stages of plant growth. They will argue about what a sprout is versus a "baby" plant and all of this is well documented with scientific definitions but none of them ever took a class or read a book on propagation and don't know things like there are 6 states to sprouting. They act like there is 5 stages of growth in the entire plant life and there are 5 stages by the time you see it come out of the ground. They have enough time to argue about it here but not enough time to use google and type in "stages of sprouting". Because they don't respect the fact that cannabis falls into a standard family of plants.

 

[Faic]

.....In fact the most valuable sites have nothing to do with cannabis because it is just a plant and is not that special of one really.
....

Bite your tounge! Or just pass it, you've had enough for the next 5 minutes.

The first time I read about how to grow weed was in HS, from a book stolen by my girlfriend, from her father. I think it was titled soemthing like a childs garden of grass or something.

Ok. Now I've just had a bit of PS inspiration...

 

[Faic]

 

[NwGrowers206]

So I have been administering the sugars a d testing with the new ph pen, but it seems like this issue has stalled/stopped bud growth. Not sure it it will start growing again or if I should just make butter or oil.

 

[DankWolf907]

In fact the most valuable sites have nothing to do with cannabis because it is just a plant and is not that special of one really

:ban:
Ok. Im kidding about the ban. ...partially. Seriously! Wtf are you smoking?!

 

[DankWolf907]

How far into flower are you now?

 

[NwGrowers206]

5-6 weeks into flowering

 

[Faic]

testing with the new pen hopefully means you're feeding in at the correct pH. Don't be alarmed, I would say the plant is just readjusting itself before it begins it's bulking out. I had a cheese plant that has that feature. No real bulk till the end. If you've got your pH stable and things aren't going to hell in a hand basket, sit back, relax, and get ready to watch something really beautiful happen.

At this stage, I would also recommend you begin daily observations of your trichomes. Watch how they grow and develope. Sounds like you're almost ready to freak out because you havn't arranged how you'lldryandcureyourharvestandIcanstilllooseitwtf

 

[NwGrowers206]

Sweet OK I'll wait a bit with regular checks and see if its going in the right direction!

 

[Faic]

Yeah this is, after you're sure you've got the problems sorted out, the calm before the storm. Your pucker factor will exceede everything till now in a few weeks lol.

 

[Papageno]

Faic is correct. Real bad pH problems will stunt the plant. But it will come around if it was caught and fixed early enough.

Remember most problems that show in leaves do not recover in the bad sports. So the judgment of your action is from new growth. So it can take a week to confirm you have fixed the error or more.

Nitrogen is one that takes not less than 5 days. So adding a fast Nitrogen injection to a deficient plant will be not noticed as fixing it for almost a week. Sometimes more depending on how nice the environment is.


Optimal conditions change for various stages of growth as well as various health of the plant. So when in shock you may want to raise the light, lower the temps and raise the humidity.


And yes all of that is standard common knowledge for just about all plants not just ones in this family.