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Great information and the reply from Boveda helped to understand their intents. I haven't seen the 54RH packs anywhere yet but may try those for cure as the ambient humidity in my locale is usually > 80% which makes curing very difficult. After they do their magic, switching to 62RH packs for storage sounds ideal. Many thanks, all!
Those jars look packed. I'm a bit of a noob, so I'm too nervous to have such full jars.
Have you had good luck with fully packed jars before?
I just emailed them this:
Good morning,
Can you please pass this on to your tech people and I will share the info on the forum 420magazine.com.
Many of us are using your 62 packs to cure and store our cannabis. We love the packs but would like to optimize their use.
When using these to cure the cannabis is still sweating moisture from the stems so we put it in a half gallon jar with a 57g large pack and it has no problem at all keeping humidity up, but the brand new liquid filled packs do not seem very good at bringing humidity down.
So the questions are: Is it a good idea to leave the new packs out of the container for a few days to allow them to lose some moisture first? Would a pack that was left out at 40% RH for a few days be able to bring down the RH a jar of cannabis better than a brand new pack? If I want to maximize the ability of the pack to bring humidity down to allow a slow dry and cure should I leave them out until the begin to solidify? Would that pull more moisture than a new one?
Thanks for the info, I will cut and paste it to share it with lots more people on our forums.
Here is the answer I just received from boveda.
Each of our formulas is designed to keep the environment it is being stored in at the relative humidity level it is designed for and each has a certain capability to add or release a certain amount of moisture as necessary before it starts to lose its ability to control the moisture level inside of the container as it was designed to do. When our chemist is working on a new formula he is constantly making trade offs in order to come up with something that we can produce that will help sustain the product it is designed to be stored with, namely:
-Will the formula have more ability to release moisture or absorb moisture?
-Will it have the ability to maintain a specific level (and sacrifice product life to do that) or is it OK to have it move throughout a range in order to have a longer life?
The 62 RH formula was designed with a limited capability to absorb moisture. It is common for people who regularly use our product to dry their herbs just slightly on the overdone side and then introduce our product to reintroduce that moisture that was lost during the curing process. If the product is too wet it is likely that the Boveda will be able to absorb some of the excess moisture but it is very difficult to tell if it will get all of it.
To answer your question, if you allowed the 62 RH formulation to dry out for a few days and then introduced it to a product that was excessively wet, it would work to pull the moisture out of that product. The problem with this method is there is a tremendous amount of unknowns. For example, a typical large Boveda starts out its life weighing ~67 grams. If you drove out 20 grams of weight by leaving it out in a dry environment and then introduced it to a jar of cannabis that was a little too wet, it may be able to absorb enough moisture to make the cannabis hit the sweet spot you are looking for, it may not have had enough capacity to grab all of the extra moisture from the cannabis, it may have grabbed some of the moisture from the atmosphere in and around the jar. Our new 54 RH formula was designed with more capacity to absorb moisture than to release moisture so that would be the preferable choice to store with something that was a little too wet.
I hope this helps please let me know if there are any other questions I can answer about our products (or if you want to get into the heavy details on specific capacities to absorb or release moisture I can put you in touch with our chemist).
Thank you,
Regards,
Matt Osmundson
Office Manager
Boveda Inc.
Well ... I wouldn't let them get hard. When they get that dry, they often leave pieces unmoistened when you restore them - you can feel the chunks through the paper, floating in the gel.
Let 'em get skinny, but don't let 'em get hard.
Bovedas are best at keeping humidity stable, and acting as a gauge. If they get plumper, humidity is too high - if they get skinny, it's too low. Using one quart jars and the smaller Bovedas, if one goes dry, a fresh replacement usually doesn't dry out right away, so that gives you a rough idea of capacity. They each contain enough to re-moisten a one quart jar of bud (in my experience).
I normally pack my jars out like that after a week or so of being In A jar. To start with I fill the jars up 3 quarters of the way. I don't think it matters if you are burping the jar enough
Hi everyone, first post on site and doing my first grow. Learning something new everyday. My local hydro store in the UK hadn't even heard of Boveda packs. Anyway, does anyway have any experience using the 59 packs?
I've just ordered some from US after reading that the 62 may be slightly on the damp side for a nice big joint. On their website the don't seem to have the 59 packs, so does anyone even know if they have been released yet?
Thanks in advance and great thread.