Blaze's Garden Of Weeden All Orgasmic Organics 2017

Blazinjones said:
Ok i thought so but wasnt sure n i figured id tryn and see if farside said i shoud do sumthn else lol
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I don't have any experience with hydro, reseviours, and the such to comment. I've only done ProMix.

As far as switching from grow to bloom nutes, I'm an odd duck in the growing world. I run basically the same feed from beginning to end. I may throw in an additional addative for extra sulpher in flower or do something to up the potassium slightly. I do not severely cut Nitrogen or add a shit ton of Phosphorus, which is the popular formula for most bloom foods. My current grow/experiment is based on a 13-2-13 fertilizer. I'm a numbers guy (former financial consultant, Bachelor's in Finance, ChFC, etc). As such I enjoy researching tissue sample analysis, controlled crop nutrient uptake studies and the like. I've come up with my feeding program based on a lot of that data. It's my belief that most nutrient companies make all these different products to 1) sell you more product, and 2) sell you what you THINK you need rather than what you REALLY need. They are just satisfying demand. It's a profit scheme. Damn dirt capitalist...lol. One of the nutient company's owners (DynaGro) came right out and said it in an interview on the Dude grows show. Funny thing is, when his company started to market to the cannabis industry, what did he do? Did he take the high road? Nope! In the interview he said you really only needed to buy 2 of his products (Foliage Pro and ProTekt). Their feed schedule has you buying a bloom food, rooting hormone, and their MagPro supplement. I've done my side by side and there was no significant difference between using 2 products vs 5. Ok, I'll get off my soapbox.
 
farside05 said:
I don't have any experience with hydro, reseviours, and the such to comment. I've only done ProMix.

As far as switching from grow to bloom nutes, I'm an odd duck in the growing world. I run basically the same feed from beginning to end. I may throw in an additional addative for extra sulpher in flower or do something to up the potassium slightly. I do not severely cut Nitrogen or add a shit ton of Phosphorus, which is the popular formula for most bloom foods. My current grow/experiment is based on a 13-2-13 fertilizer. I'm a numbers guy (former financial consultant, Bachelor's in Finance, ChFC, etc). As such I enjoy researching tissue sample analysis, controlled crop nutrient uptake studies and the like. I've come up with my feeding program based on a lot of that data. It's my belief that most nutrient companies make all these different products to 1) sell you more product, and 2) sell you what you THINK you need rather than what you REALLY need. They are just satisfying demand. It's a profit scheme. Damn dirt capitalist...lol. One of the nutient company's owners (DynaGro) came right out and said it in an interview on the Dude grows show. Funny thing is, when his company started to market to the cannabis industry, what did he do? Did he take the high road? Nope! In the interview he said you really only needed to buy 2 of his products (Foliage Pro and ProTekt). Their feed schedule has you buying a bloom food, rooting hormone, and their MagPro supplement. I've done my side by side and there was no significant difference between using 2 products vs 5. Ok, I'll get off my soapbox.
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Lmao thanx for the info my man but no all good i wasnt meaning my hydro girls but my promix girls i switched them into flower n im running remo nutes tht i adjust the ph to 6.0 b4 feeding so i was just wondering what do u suggest i use for my nute setup this round i know we altered my feeding program i was using during veg and the girls loved me for taking ur advice lmao so now they are on to the flower stage. So if u can give me any advice for my feeding setup now im in flower mode i would greatly appreciate it brotha thank you and namaste
 
In my contrarian world, I never feed them the bloom food, I would feed them exactly the same as you have been until about 10 days from harvest. The N-P-K of the grow and Micro combination is 5-3-6. Simplify that and it's close to a 2-1-2 ratio. I actually target a ratio that's closer to 3-1-3. If you go the more traditional route and want to use the Bloom food, just replace the amount of Grow you were using with Bloom. Combining the Bloom with Micro will give you a N-P-K ratio of 1-1-2 (when reduced to it's simplest terms). Your plant may yellow up from lack of nitrogen. Some people are cool with that, others not. How do you get it or keep it green with using a low Nitrogen feed you ask? Feed it more of the lower percentage Nitrogen food. See how them damn dirty capitalist are getting you to buy more product? Lol. If you do use more Bloom food, what happens to all that extra phosphorus and potassium? It either builds up in your media or runs out the bottom if you're watering to runoff. Tissue analysis shows that the ratio of N-P-K used by the plant in both the vegetative state and flowering state doesn't change that dramatically. There I go on my soapbox again.
 
farside05 said:
In my contrarian world, I never feed them the bloom food, I would feed them exactly the same as you have been until about 10 days from harvest. The N-P-K of the grow and Micro combination is 5-3-6. Simplify that and it's close to a 2-1-2 ratio. I actually target a ratio that's closer to 3-1-3. If you go the more traditional route and want to use the Bloom food, just replace the amount of Grow you were using with Bloom. Combining the Bloom with Micro will give you a N-P-K ratio of 1-1-2 (when reduced to it's simplest terms). Your plant may yellow up from lack of nitrogen. Some people are cool with that, others not. How do you get it or keep it green with using a low Nitrogen feed you ask? Feed it more of the lower percentage Nitrogen food. See how them damn dirty capitalist are getting you to buy more product? Lol. If you do use more Bloom food, what happens to all that extra phosphorus and potassium? It either builds up in your media or runs out the bottom if you're watering to runoff. Tissue analysis shows that the ratio of N-P-K used by the plant in both the vegetative state and flowering state doesn't change that dramatically. There I go on my soapbox again.
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Lmao shit we r guna have to enter u into a soapbox derby haha but yea dude this is the info im trying to learn anyway n being able 2 learn at my own rate versus taking a class or sumthn like tht works way better for me. So ur really helpn me out alot lol
 
farside05 said:
In my contrarian world, I never feed them the bloom food, I would feed them exactly the same as you have been until about 10 days from harvest. The N-P-K of the grow and Micro combination is 5-3-6. Simplify that and it's close to a 2-1-2 ratio. I actually target a ratio that's closer to 3-1-3. If you go the more traditional route and want to use the Bloom food, just replace the amount of Grow you were using with Bloom. Combining the Bloom with Micro will give you a N-P-K ratio of 1-1-2 (when reduced to it's simplest terms). Your plant may yellow up from lack of nitrogen. Some people are cool with that, others not. How do you get it or keep it green with using a low Nitrogen feed you ask? Feed it more of the lower percentage Nitrogen food. See how them damn dirty capitalist are getting you to buy more product? Lol. If you do use more Bloom food, what happens to all that extra phosphorus and potassium? It either builds up in your media or runs out the bottom if you're watering to runoff. Tissue analysis shows that the ratio of N-P-K used by the plant in both the vegetative state and flowering state doesn't change that dramatically. There I go on my soapbox again.
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Ok so i tried to use tht nutrient calendar to figure out how much astro flower and bloom to add but the astro flower dont have any nitrogen in it lol. Ibn know u said to jus switch the bloom amount with the grow amount if i really wana use it so would tht mean jus add the same amount of astro flower as well? jus want to use up as much as poss. the nutes i have on hand so i dont end up wasting my money i used to purchase them lol
 
farside05 said:
In my contrarian world, I never feed them the bloom food, I would feed them exactly the same as you have been until about 10 days from harvest. The N-P-K of the grow and Micro combination is 5-3-6. Simplify that and it's close to a 2-1-2 ratio. I actually target a ratio that's closer to 3-1-3. If you go the more traditional route and want to use the Bloom food, just replace the amount of Grow you were using with Bloom. Combining the Bloom with Micro will give you a N-P-K ratio of 1-1-2 (when reduced to it's simplest terms). Your plant may yellow up from lack of nitrogen. Some people are cool with that, others not. How do you get it or keep it green with using a low Nitrogen feed you ask? Feed it more of the lower percentage Nitrogen food. See how them damn dirty capitalist are getting you to buy more product? Lol. If you do use more Bloom food, what happens to all that extra phosphorus and potassium? It either builds up in your media or runs out the bottom if you're watering to runoff. Tissue analysis shows that the ratio of N-P-K used by the plant in both the vegetative state and flowering state doesn't change that dramatically. There I go on my soapbox again.
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Ok so i tried to use tht nutrient calendar to figure out how much astro flower and bloom to add but the astro flower dont have any nitrogen in it lol. Ibn know u said to jus switch the bloom amount with the grow amount if i really wana use it so would tht mean jus add the same amount of astro flower as well? jus want to use up as much as poss. the nutes i have on hand so i dont end up wasting my money i used to purchase them lol
 
You have the Remo Grow, Micro and Bloom, AstroFlower, Natures Candy, and Cal Mag ? Anything else like their Kelp? Remo's calculator has you using 3/4 tsp per gallon of every product except the Grow. I'll buy that if you are shooting for a more traditional "Bloom feed". If you use every one of their products, in the same ratio (3/4 tsp) as directed, it gives you a N-P-K ratio of 1-1-2 ish. Fairly common ratio for Bloom.
 
farside05 said:
You have the Remo Grow, Micro and Bloom, AstroFlower, Natures Candy, and Cal Mag ? Anything else like their Kelp? Remo's calculator has you using 3/4 tsp per gallon of every product except the Grow. I'll buy that if you are shooting for a more traditional "Bloom feed". If you use every one of their products, in the same ratio (3/4 tsp) as directed, it gives you a N-P-K ratio of 1-1-2 ish. Fairly common ratio for Bloom.
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Ok well my cal-mag is from botanicare but yes that is it i have nothing else going in there so i should follow the directions then correct and still ph to 6.0 then same as b4?
 
Yeah, just use the Botanicare Cal Mag in place of the Remo Cal Mag product. Use 3/4 tsp of everything but the Grow and adjust to 6.0.
 
Pennywise said:
Some growers start bloom nutes at the flip, it’s personal preference really
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Hey for making photo pollen when did u start spraying them with colloidal silver shud i start in veg or flower or when?
 
Rich Farmer said:
Yup about 2 weeks, just sprayed my tut with sts but i put her to flower a few days ago... Hope she turns! I got lazy and didn't want to make the spray. Lol.
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Lmao thts how i ended up starting my first red poison auto i was to lazy to go outside n spray so i think i missed the window time for the auto so this time im staying on top of things lol so if it takes about 2 weeks for photos wouldnt it be quicker then for autos or no?
 
Rich Farmer said:
Yup about 2 weeks, just sprayed my tut with sts but i put her to flower a few days ago... Hope she turns! I got lazy and didn't want to make the spray. Lol.
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I got a starwberry cake photo i want to make some beans from and man she is a tree already and i still havent flipped her so i will start spraying a few branches with my c.s spray then in a few days ill flip her into a homemade flower tent tht im guna have to make specially for her cause i dont have anywhere else tall enough to fit her in haha but yea hopefully i get some pollen soon here oh wait i do have another question when spraying im correct in thinkn i spray her down with the cs once a day right and does it matter if its at lights out or lights on i figured at lights out so thts what ive been doing as soon as the lights go out i spray the ones dwn tht im working on is tht right or no??
 
Pennywise said:
10 to 14 days usually
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Hey pw famer said i would be better off asking u since u use c.s. do u spray when lights go on or off and is it once or twice a day?
 
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