Bill C-45: Canada's Legalization, The Drama Revs Up

Quebec . . .

"Under the new plan, the legal age to buy, possess and consume marijuana in Quebec will be 18 — the same as the drinking age.

Other key points include:

  • No one will be allowed to grow cannabis for personal use. It will also be banned to grow it for commercial use, unless following the laws set out by the government.
  • It is prohibited for an adult to possess, in a place other than a public place, more than 150 grams of dried cannabis.
  • It must be smoked in the same places as tobacco. Smoking will also be prohibited on university and CEGEP grounds.
  • There will be zero tolerance for drivers — police officers will be able to ask for a saliva sample if they suspect someone is driving while high and will be able to suspend a driver's licence for 90 days if a sample comes back positive.

Under the plan, only the Société Québécoise du Cannabis (SQC) will be allowed to purchase cannabis from a producer, ensure its transportation and storage, and sell it, with certain exceptions.

The SQC will open 15 physical stores around the province where cannabis products will be sold and will also offer online sales."

From CBC

Ian
 
Hi All,

Quebec looks to be the most anti-cannabis so far.

Can you imagine if C-46 banned driving with alcohol in your bloodstream? Effectively this is what the new law will do to cannabis users. The cops are going to get rich busting legal cannabis users who drive, even if it was yesterday's joint that they test positive for.

I think we will win in the courts but many people will be hurt in the mean time.

I also saw that BC or Alberta are also going to discuss a ban on growing.

I'm beginning to miss the Harper Government's cannabis policies. They were less draconian.

Never thought I'd write those words.

Peace. :peace:
 
Yukon . . .

The Yukon has released its plans for marijuana sales.

  • 19 minumum age
  • would limit distribution and sales to government outlets, but would allow for the later development of private retail operations
  • government-run pot sales online
Source: National Post

Ian
 
Great FP!

Here are the proposals & the questions in context:

Proposed Approach to the Regulation of Cannabis

Here are the questions:

  1. What do you think about the different types of proposed licences (i.e., cultivation, processing, etc.)? Will they achieve the objective of enabling a diverse, competitive legal industry that is comprised of both large and small players in regions across the country?
  2. What do you think would be an appropriate threshold to distinguish between a micro-cultivator and a standard cultivator, taking into account the reduced physical security requirements for a micro-cultivator? Should the threshold be based on the number of plants, size of growing area, total production, gross revenue, or some other criteria? What should the threshold be?
  3. What do you think would be an appropriate threshold to distinguish between a micro-processor and a standard processor, taking into account the reduced physical security requirements for a micro-processor? Should the threshold be based on total production, on-site inventory, gross revenue, or some other criteria? What should the threshold be?
  4. What do you think of the proposed rules and requirements (i.e., physical security, good production practices, etc.) for the different categories of authorized activity? Do you think that the requirements are proportional to the public health and safety risks posed by each category of activity?
  5. What do you think about the proposed requirements for certain individuals associated with a licensed organization to hold a security clearance issued by the Minister of Health? Do you think the proposal appropriately addresses positions of greatest risk?
  6. What do you think of the proposed criteria for determining whether or not an individual is eligible to hold a security clearance? Do you think that the proposed approach should permit individuals with a history of non-violent, lower-risk activity (such as simple possession or small-scale cultivation of cannabis plants) to obtain a security clearance and participate in the legal cannabis industry?
  7. What do you think about the proposal not to restrict the types of product forms that industry will be able to manufacture and sell (for example, pre-rolled dried cannabis, or cannabis oil capsules and oral sprays)? Are there any specific product forms that you think should be prohibited?
  8. What do you think about the proposed THC limits based how a product is represented to be consumed (i.e., by inhalation or by ingestion)? What do you think about the proposed limits on a unit or serving basis?
  9. What do you think about the proposed rules for the packaging and labelling of cannabis products? Do you think additional information should be provided on the label?
  10. What do you think about the proposed approach to providing cannabis for medical purposes? Do you think there should be any specific additional changes?
  11. What do you think about the proposed restrictions on the sale of health products containing cannabis authorized by Health Canada? Do they strike an appropriate balance between facilitating access to safe, effective and high quality health products, and deterring illegal activities and youth access?
  12. What do you think about the overall regulatory proposal? Is there any additional feedback that you would like to share on the proposed approach to the regulation of cannabis?

So this is our/your chance to have a say in the Federal implementation. That doesn't mean that they will listen, or change any of it, but this is our chance to speak and be heard.

Ian
 
Newfoundland and Labrador . . .

  • age limit 19 years old
  • distribution controlled by the Newfoundland and Labrador Liquor Corporation
  • gov't stores will retail but they are asking for proposals from private industry for retail permits as well

Ian
 
Here is the breakdown on the different licenses under the new Federal regulations.

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Ian
 
Re: Bill C-45 â€" Canadaâ€s Legalization â€" The Drama Revs Up

Ian Bastage said:
Here is the breakdown on the different licenses under the new Federal regulations.

fed-licenses.jpg


Ian
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Good Morning All,

Thanks for the post Ian, graphics help sort through the legalese.:goodjob:

So it looks like micro cultivators can sell to micro processors who can (this is the important part) sell to Authorized Provincial/Territorial retailers. So any province with a private retail model will be able to support a grassroots Craft Cannabis industry from soil to sale. Whether it is practical might be another story, but the possibility is there.

Depending on how the Supreme Court rules on the Comeau case ( Upcoming Supreme Court case threatens plans for Ontario marijuana monopoly | TheRecord.com ), private retailers might be country wide. That could be very good for consumers.

And the way Canada's two most populated provinces are SLOWLY rolling out their public sector retail outlets, opportunities for the littler guy might be rosier than we thought.

Time will tell...

Peace. :peace:
 
Re: Bill C-45 â€" Canadaâ€s Legalization â€" The Drama Revs Up

FeloniousPunk said:
So any province with a private retail model will be able to support a grassroots Craft Cannabis industry from soil to sale. Whether it is practical might be another story, but the possibility is there.
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That's right - assuming the Senate doesn't mangle the legislation. Ontario & Quebec may find themselves forced to allow small growers. The product would still have to be lab tested & certified & small growers would also have to get a micro processing licence.

In my submission, I pointed out that the # of plants is a poor yardstick to identify micro growers. To be a small cultivator you need active clones, plants in veg & plants in bloom & harvested plants in cure. Production volume would be a better dividing line.

Ian
 
Northwest Territories . . .

  • The proposed minimum age for the possession and consumption of marijuana in the N.W.T. will be 19.
  • Personal possession will be set at 30 grams "of dried cannabis or its equivalent in a public place."
  • Adults will be allowed to grow four plants per household.
  • Adults will be allowed to smoke at home, while public smoking will be prohibited in certain areas to protect others against second-hand smoke.
  • The N.W.T Liquor Commission will control the importation and distribution of cannabis, whether through retail outlets or by mail order service run by the liquor commission.
  • Communities will be able to "hold a plebiscite to prohibit cannabis, similar to the options currently available to restrict alcohol."

Source: Posted by Ron in News Canada: N.W.T. Gov't Outlines Plan For Control Of Legal Cannabis In The Territory

Ian
 
You beat me to it, FP.

"The legislation was largely supported along partisan lines, although it secured the support of the NDP and Green Party Leader Elizabeth May. The final vote was 200 MPs in favour, with 82 against."

Ian
 
BC . . .

Although the news is not officially official yet, the BC gov't did release a few details of its plan . . .

  • When marijuana becomes legalized in B.C. in July, 2018, no one under the age of 19 will be able to possess, purchase and consume it. This age minimum is consistent with B.C.'s age for alcohol and tobacco.
  • The B.C. Liquor Distribution Branch (LDB) will be the wholesale distributor of all non-medical cannabis in the province and the government will develop a retail model involving public and private retailers to sell the cannabis.

Source: Global News

Ian
 
Manitoba . . .

  • the minimum age to buy and possess cannabis in Manitoba at 19, one year higher than the legal age to purchase alcohol.
  • new provincial offences for selling cannabis without a license or purchasing from an unlicensed retailer, giving cannabis to a person younger than 19, buying cannabis using a fake ID or giving a fake ID to an underage person to purchase cannabis, and giving cannabis to an intoxicated person.For individuals, punishments could include fines of up to $100,000 and a year in prison, while corporations would face fines of up to $500,000.
  • the Liquor and Gaming Authority of Manitoba, which will be renamed the Liquor, Gaming and Cannabis Authority of Manitoba. The LGCA will be responsible for licensing cannabis stores in Manitoba, both retail and online. Manitoba Liquor and Lotteries Corporation will be responsible for overseeing distribution of cannabis produced by federally licensed companies, and all provincial retailers will be required to source product from MLL.
  • Two categories of retail store will be permitted: The first will restrict entrance to stores to those of legal age, while the second will allow full public access but keep products hidden behind the counter. Combining cannabis sales with alcohol sales at the same location will be prohibited, the civil servants said.

Source: Winnipeg Free Press (posted by Ron)

Ian
 
Manitoba . . . continued

And I forgot this:

  • Manitobans will be prohibited from growing marijuana for recreational purposes at home after cannabis is legalized in 2018

Ian
 
TorturedSoul said:
Just how cheap IS an ounce of cannabis up there in the Great White North, anyway? If it goes for $5/gram, wow. That'd be $140/lid. And I've heard that it's currently selling for $100 to $120 per quarter-ounce around my neck of the woods. Everyone seems to want to get rich, I guess?
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Average good street price is 180-200 for decent smoke for top top shelf 240-280$

Low end stuff outdoor
Greenhouse 120-140$ per ounce

Tweed one of the governments big ones in Canada went to look thc count 13% cbd .03
After taxes and shipping would cost me 196$ so 20-25% thx and .05-3% cbd for 200 ? Hmm

Specially if you know there are growing with love ❤️..
 
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