🤔 Is there any difference in airflow or warmth?
Nope, not that I can determine. The bottom ports on both sides are open to draw air in, and the carbon filter up top is pretty close to the centre.
Both plants have a circulation fan directly on them as they're under Aerolights, but right now those are set just strong enough to ruffle the leaves, and on the same setting.
 
Day 39
Fertigated today, and adjusted their training. Added some more gardening wire.
I'm reconsidering switching over to dowels for the lower branches. I think I'll let them grow up now to reach the canopy, and continue to bend the top two branches until everything is even. Then I'll either let it all grow up for a few nodes, or top everything and then let it all grow up.

Girl Scout Cookies


Cherry Bomb


Thanks for taking a look!
 
Day 39
Fertigated today, and adjusted their training. Added some more gardening wire.
I'm reconsidering switching over to dowels for the lower branches. I think I'll let them grow up now to reach the canopy, and continue to bend the top two branches until everything is even. Then I'll either let it all grow up for a few nodes, or top everything and then let it all grow up.

Girl Scout Cookies


Cherry Bomb


Thanks for taking a look!
The Cookies seem be growing more vigorously and responding well to LST
Bomb looks like it needs more nutes but less water - don't ask me how you achieve that tho lol
Don't think she'll disappoint in the end
 
CB is starting to look a tad greener. She's still a bit of a drooper but I suspect she'll also be a trooper!

GSC is going to be a Beast...if you let her! :Rasta:
 
The Cookies seem be growing more vigorously and responding well to LST
Bomb looks like it needs more nutes but less water - don't ask me how you achieve that tho lol
Don't think she'll disappoint in the end
Yeah, GSC is really impressing me. Doubly so for being a freebie seed. Thanks for pointing me towards growing her.
I'll be bumping up the concentration of Mega Crop for Cherry Bomb. It does mean I'll be mixing separate jugs of nutrients for them, but she does seem to need it. The weird thing about it is she's drinking a lot faster than GSC. I'm thinking she'll come around in flower.
CB is starting to look a tad greener. She's still a bit of a drooper but I suspect she'll also be a trooper!

GSC is going to be a Beast...if you let her! :Rasta:
Thanks GDB!
They never seemed to take off once they hit the res, so I'll be vegging a bit longer than I originally thought I would be. I'm hoping they'll both be beasts in the end.
 
Day 40
Not much has changed.

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Cherry Bomb


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Day 41
Fertigation day again.
I also tied down the top branches on Cherry Bomb. GSC will get the same soon, and I'll have to top a couple of the shoots in the centre. They're about ready to declare apical dominance.

Girl Scout Cookies


Cherry Bomb


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Day 41
Fertigation day again.
I also tied down the top branches on Cherry Bomb. GSC will get the same soon, and I'll have to top a couple of the shoots in the centre. They're about ready to declare apical dominance.

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Cherry Bomb


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Nice shade of green, they look perfect Mel
 
Day 42
I'm thinking I'll give them another week of veg and then flip.
It'll give those centre shoots time to get a bit of length.
I'm also thinking that octolining isn't really a good plan in hempy. The perlite doesn't anchor the plant well, so it's difficult to reorient the lower 4 branches without uprooting the plant.

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Nice shade of green, they look perfect Mel
Thanks Sniper!
 
The perlite doesn't anchor the plant well
This is exactly the problem I had with hempy type ebb/flow too
That is my sole reluctance
 
Day 43
I really do need to clean up some of those tangled leaves at the bottom of GSC. If nothing else it should make watering easier.
I have an idea to spread apart the branches on these plants to make octolining work, but there's a bit of a support issue to work out first.
Watered today.

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Cherry Bomb


This is exactly the problem I had with hempy type ebb/flow too
That is my sole reluctance
I considered giving up training the plants, just going for a traditional Christmas tree shape. One benefit would have been fitting another plant in there as they wouldn't get as wide.
Another option was to go with LST using the sides of the pot for support and as the tie down point. I might try that in a later grow.
I like octolining though. I just have to come up with a good strategy beforehand instead of winging it.
I've been looking at something I saw @Ramblinrose1965 doing where the skewers/dowels are attached to the pot instead of the plant, and I think I might be able to adapt that.
 
I've been looking at something I saw @Ramblinrose1965 doing where the skewers/dowels are attached to the pot instead of the plant, and I think I might be able to adapt that.
Funny I was noticing that as well and like that approach. It can also be done without adding any holes into the bucket/pot by using a counterweight. This might also be a good way be able to adjust axis’s of the nodes as well if needed. I think this is the route I’m going to adapt as well.
 
Funny I was noticing that as well and like that approach. It can also be done without adding any holes into the bucket/pot by using a counterweight. This might also be a good way be able to adjust axis’s of the nodes as well if needed. I think this is the route I’m going to adapt as well.
It works ok....If there isn't a lot of room between the soil and the skewer. It's kind of a pain to get the tie attached to the skewer.
 
It works ok....If there isn't a lot of room between the soil and the skewer. It's kind of a pain to get the tie attached to the skewer.
Yeah I’m not sure there is a super easy way in any situation at this stage in the game. Might be a little easier as they get bigger :)
 
Funny I was noticing that as well and like that approach. It can also be done without adding any holes into the bucket/pot by using a counterweight. This might also be a good way be able to adjust axis’s of the nodes as well if needed. I think this is the route I’m going to adapt as well.
It works ok....If there isn't a lot of room between the soil and the skewer. It's kind of a pain to get the tie attached to the skewer.
Yeah I’m not sure there is a super easy way in any situation at this stage in the game. Might be a little easier as they get bigger :)
If I were still in soil it would be a whole lot easier to redirect the branches. This is how I used to do it...
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Might be easier to see here...
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I was able to bend the lower branch against the hook pulling the upper branch down. That let me redirect the branches into the open areas, filling the canopy.
Unfortunately perlite doesn't hold or brace hooks, even if they have the barbs @Preston9mm showed earlier. It's one reason I'm considering coco.
 
If I were still in soil it would be a whole lot easier to redirect the branches. This is how I used to do it...
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Might be easier to see here...
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I was able to bend the lower branch against the hook pulling the upper branch down. That let me redirect the branches into the open areas, filling the canopy.
Unfortunately perlite doesn't hold or brace hooks, even if they have the barbs @Preston9mm showed earlier. It's one reason I'm considering coco.
Ok well that looks like a great way too!!! And super easy to it then right where you want them!!
 
Ok well that looks like a great way too!!! And super easy to it then right where you want them!!
It's the way I started training them after I learned of the carhooks @Carcass came up with. Before that I...
I just use binder clips and butcher twine on the edge of the pot...

You likely will have to also pull down on the other side to balance it ;)

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...did this, just with gardening wire instead of butcher's twine. I considered going back to this when I started growing in hempy, but it's sort of a similar issue of the perlite not really supporting the plant...including from the bottom. I believe @Carcass has a post where the pressure of the branches trying to grow up instead of out has pushed the stem of the plant right down into the medium, and in perlite that would happen a lot more easily.
I use the same. Also large paper clips attached onto the sides. They work great. I've even used large safety pins on fabric pots in the past.
Same here, except for the safety pins!
 
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