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Indeed!Of course naming any part of FN fertilizer© Bloom, especially in relation to P, is counter to it's whole purpose.
Of course it was, but "FN B" doesn't mean a damn thing.Don't think the FN A wasn't intentional when I chose the name
Of course it was, but "FN B" doesn't mean a damn thing.![]()
When I got my shipment of all the chelated elements, I never really checked the package contents. Turns out they threw in a 1lb bag of 11-11-40 Pepper and Herb Fertilizer (contains all the micros too). It has no Calcium, Magnesium, or Sulfur, and too little N, but you could add some Calcium Nitrate and Epsom Salts and be in business.
How often do you have to make a batch for an average grow?
And how long can you store it and how long will it remain in it's correct state?
Also, what is the application volume/gallon and how does that work?
Awesome, that's exactly what I was looking for. So in short, not to be Captain Obvious, this is basically your own self-made nute line that works start to finish for an entire grow, and produces results like your photos? Is that what's going on here?Well let's see... I have it worked out that there are 378, 10ml doses per gallon. Each time I feed a mature plant, I'm feeding 2 gallons of feed. I probably feed on average 2x a week when they are in full veg and bloom. And I'm growing 8 plants.
So 378 / 2 / 2 / 8 = 11.8 weeks. If you're growing 4 plants it would be 23.6 weeks. Then consider that when they're younger you're feeding less than full strength, and less than 2 gallons per feed, and probably less frequently too. For a 4 plant grow, a gallon of each of the products will most likely last a half year or more.
It should last until it's all used. I still have a quart left of the Silica, FN A, and FN B from what I made 4 months ago and it's still fine.
The feed schedule is based on the plants age above ground. You use equal amounts of each product. There is no Grow feed and Bloom feed. It's a constant ratio throughout the grow, just higher strength as the plant gets older.
Day 1-5, 2ml per gallon
Day 5-10, 4ml
Day 11-15, 6ml
Day 16-20, 8ml
Day 21+ 10ml
That's about as fast as you can push it. If I see a leaf tip starting to go a little white, just before the burn, I might skip the next increase for a watering.
So if you see me posting, they all got 2 gallons of the 8's, that's my shorthand for 8ml FN Silica®, 8ml FN Micros®, 8ml FN A®, and 8ml FN B®.
Awesome, that's exactly what I was looking for. So in short, not to be Captain Obvious, this is basically your own self-made nute line that works start to finish for an entire grow, and produces results like your photos? Is that what's going on here?
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Here's a question for you @farside05 - have you experienced any strain specific dislike for your mix since you've been using it? Or is there any "sativas seem to like it better than indicas" (or something) - type thing going on? Or does everything you've grown flourish in it?That's s the gist of it. There's a number of growers out there using similar ppm element targets and blending together several off the shelf products to do it. That's what I was doing too until I made the leap to buying all the individual components to make my own from the ground up.
One more - (heh) - what about a long vegging/long flowering strain or plant in this mix? Any "replenishment issues" over a longer haul to the point where other augmentation is necessary?Here's a question for you @farside05 - have you experienced any strain specific dislike for your mix since you've been using it? Or is there any "sativas seem to like it better than indicas" (or something) - type thing going on? Or does everything you've grown flourish in it?
Also wondering what you believe is the biggest improvement you see using your own make versus when you were doing the same thing off the shelf?
Thank you kind sir!
Here's a question for you @farside05 - have you experienced any strain specific dislike for your mix since you've been using it? Or is there any "sativas seem to like it better than indicas" (or something) - type thing going on? Or does everything you've grown flourish in it?
Also wondering what you believe is the biggest improvement you see using your own make versus when you were doing the same thing off the shelf?
Thank you kind sir!
One more - (heh) - what about a long vegging/long flowering strain or plant in this mix? Any "replenishment issues" over a longer haul to the point where other augmentation is necessary?
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Thanks for the detailed response @farside05. And ah, I see. This is actually even more customized than I thought. Besides the alkalinity of the tap water, does your mix specifically address/mitigate any specific concentrations of other (bad) things in the tap water, such as chlorine?I don't tend to grow sativa's, mainly hybrids and indicas due to indoors and tent heights. Up until about 2 years ago, all I had was a 32 x 32 tent and they aren't that tall. The 36 x 36 gave me a bit more headroom, but I still don't think I want to tackle anything too tall also I'm incredibly impatient and don't want to wait for that longer flowering period. Maybe why I grow a lot of autos
Much of the reason I decided to go the DIY route was the concept of matching your fertilizers Nitrogen types to your water alkalinity. I grow in a buffered soil-less mix. I also quit the whole RO thing (just us people in the house drink it now) and feed my plants tap water. Many of the off the shelf fertilizers use predominantly Nitrate Nitrogen. That's great if you're using RO, but if you have 150ppm tap like mine, your growing media will see an upward pH drift over longer grows. @InTheShed has experienced this several times now with his Pro-Mix grows using Mega Crop which is nearly all Nitrate Nitrogen. I wanted a fertilizer that not only met my ppm per element targets but also contained about 25% Ammoniacal Nitrogen. That was near impossible to do by combining off the shelf products. I had my Non-Auto Auto in a 5 gallon container of Soil-less for 6 months feeding my tap and blend and didn't encounter any problems. I'm sure it probably would have been beneficial, data wise, to have done a slurry test on the grow media when that grow was over, but I didn't. I don't own a reliable pH pen anymore since it is unnecessary to pH feed solution when growing in buffered soil-less mixes or soil.
Thanks for the detailed response @farside05. And ah, I see. This is actually even more customized than I thought. Besides the alkalinity of the tap water, does your mix specifically address/mitigate any specific concentrations of other (bad) things in the tap water, such as chlorine?
Thanks. I see, I think....in a soilless grow the plant will take the nutes and what it needs and leave anything else alone and not be bothered by it, yes?I don't concern myself with chlorine since I'm not trying to grow in a living soil, and I'm not depending on any microbes to break down organic material to help feed my plant. Everything is already there for them, in bare ionic form, to consume via the fertilizer.
Thanks. I see, I think....in a soilless grow the plant will take the nutes and what it needs and leave anything else alone and not be bothered by it, yes?