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Are my plants ok? First time grower: Autoflower
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Ok cool you answered the question I just asked.
so I need a new meter, some cal mag right now and then I can use mega crop nutrient as nutrients. I should be good with that?
yes. you'll want those three bottles plus a bottle of cal-mag to start. if going that route. they are good nutes as well.
if you try the mega crop, you'll need a bag of the mega crop, and some cal-mag just to have handy.
my mega-crop grows don't use any cal mag at all, but i feed from the start as my media is different. if using mega crop, you may need a little cal-mag on it's own at the very beginning, before you start to feed.
edit : btw i'm not so sure about that light. pretty certain you are gonna want to upgrade before the grow is done. it's ok for now.
would also up pot soon.
aren't i just bossy ...
aren't i just bossy ...
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Not at all, it’s called helpfulwould also up pot soon.
aren't i just bossy ...
I have this light “240W Full Spectrum LED Grow Light Full Spectrum” it came with my grow tent kit ( see original post I made for full specs)
I’m going to go look for the mega crop today since that seems like it would be the easiest for my autoflower and find some cal- mag.
Going to my garage to check on plants now, will post updated pics
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Are you talking about the mega crop I listed a pic of below? If so, it’s expensive..... also I don’t see a mega crop single nute
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Nunyabiz
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Its actually more likely that Miracle-Gro soil could be hot soil and that very well could be what caused these autoflowers to get stunted.
Autoflowers don't need alot of nutrients in the first month usually as long as you're in good soil.
And there's no telling what exactly stunted them, could be too much water, not enough water, to much nutrients in the soil, too cold, too hot, hell I wouldn't doubt if a loud fart would stunt them.
If you want your best chance to grow an autoflower, I would get a very light, airy, well aerated soil, preferably mix your own from 3 parts sphagnum peat moss, 3 parts good aged compost, and 3 parts good aeration such as Pumice, Rice Hulls and Pre-charged Biochar.
Then add a handful of worm castings on top.
Mix those together thoroughly, get 5 gallon fabric pots put about 3" of soil in pot and then moisten that layer with good water pH'd to 6.4 mixed with yucca extract and aloe vera, repeat this step until pot is full to the brim and evenly moistened top to bottom.
Germinate a seed in 80 degree pure water with no chlorine and a tiny pinch of aloe vera, the seed should crack open in about 12 hours, soon as it cracks and you can just barely see the little white tap root about to emerge you take a tooth pick and make a tiny hole just deep enough to bury top of seed tap root facing down about 1/8th inch.
Put one teaspoon water over seed to water in.
Then water every day, start with about a tablespoon poured in a ring about an inch circle around the seedling, every couple days add an extra tablespoon or little more, and make the circle larger, just keep soil moist and widen the circle every couple days and add just enough water to complete the circle to moisten soil about 3" deep.
Then of course make sure you have enough light, air temp between 75-81, humidity between 60-70% first 3 weeks and you got a good chance for success.
Autoflowers don't need alot of nutrients in the first month usually as long as you're in good soil.
And there's no telling what exactly stunted them, could be too much water, not enough water, to much nutrients in the soil, too cold, too hot, hell I wouldn't doubt if a loud fart would stunt them.
If you want your best chance to grow an autoflower, I would get a very light, airy, well aerated soil, preferably mix your own from 3 parts sphagnum peat moss, 3 parts good aged compost, and 3 parts good aeration such as Pumice, Rice Hulls and Pre-charged Biochar.
Then add a handful of worm castings on top.
Mix those together thoroughly, get 5 gallon fabric pots put about 3" of soil in pot and then moisten that layer with good water pH'd to 6.4 mixed with yucca extract and aloe vera, repeat this step until pot is full to the brim and evenly moistened top to bottom.
Germinate a seed in 80 degree pure water with no chlorine and a tiny pinch of aloe vera, the seed should crack open in about 12 hours, soon as it cracks and you can just barely see the little white tap root about to emerge you take a tooth pick and make a tiny hole just deep enough to bury top of seed tap root facing down about 1/8th inch.
Put one teaspoon water over seed to water in.
Then water every day, start with about a tablespoon poured in a ring about an inch circle around the seedling, every couple days add an extra tablespoon or little more, and make the circle larger, just keep soil moist and widen the circle every couple days and add just enough water to complete the circle to moisten soil about 3" deep.
Then of course make sure you have enough light, air temp between 75-81, humidity between 60-70% first 3 weeks and you got a good chance for success.
go to the greenleaf nutrients website you can get a free sample to start if you pay for shipping. a lot of nutrient companies do that. that will be enough until you can get a better sized bag.
autos need to be up potted before they get crowded in the cups. if the leaves reach to the sides of the cups it is time or past. autos are a bitch for a newbie, and worse if you jump in with no real plan.
i'd have to look at the specs on the light, but i can frankly see it's crap from here. will be ok for seedling and maybe veg, and a massive disappointment in flower. it's ok though, everyone starts somewhere.
look to @Budget LED , @NextLight , @SmokeSara (mars hydro) for some help. maybe run with this light for now and pull a budget together for the next grow. everyone always polishes their game up over the first few grows. this one might suck, but you'll enjoy, gain experience, and get better.
good post @Nunyabiz - i'm hoping she gets them outta those clear cups and into a decent pot with the fox farm soon. i'd still run these as a first shot for experience.
autos need to be up potted before they get crowded in the cups. if the leaves reach to the sides of the cups it is time or past. autos are a bitch for a newbie, and worse if you jump in with no real plan.
i'd have to look at the specs on the light, but i can frankly see it's crap from here. will be ok for seedling and maybe veg, and a massive disappointment in flower. it's ok though, everyone starts somewhere.
look to @Budget LED , @NextLight , @SmokeSara (mars hydro) for some help. maybe run with this light for now and pull a budget together for the next grow. everyone always polishes their game up over the first few grows. this one might suck, but you'll enjoy, gain experience, and get better.
good post @Nunyabiz - i'm hoping she gets them outta those clear cups and into a decent pot with the fox farm soon. i'd still run these as a first shot for experience.
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I will be planting the solo cups plants into fabric pots today in my fox farm ocean forest soil. I also have some cal mag arriving in the morning. Hopefully you saw the pics I posted from today. I will also get the nutrients you suggested too.
here is the specs for the tent I using below that came with lights-
here is the specs for the tent I using below that came with lights-
- Comes complete with 600-Watt equivalent full spectrum LED fixture (True 240-Watt), 4 in. Hydro Crunch inline duct booster fan 100 CFM, Hydro Crunch 4 in. x 12 in. virgin carbon filter and 4 in. x 25 ft. non-insulated air duct, 25 ft. long, grow tent 24 in. x 24 in. x 60 in. (2 ft. x 2 ft. x 5 ft.), timer and adjustable light ratchet hanger
- TRUE 240W Full Spectrum LED Grow Light Full Spectrum is ideal for all kinds of indoor plants seeding and vegging growth stages only. 3 year warranty and CE Certified. Selectable Veg/Bloom switches with 2x high speed whisper quiet fans and aluminum cooling heat sinks runs 70% cooler than HPS/MH
- Hydro Crunch 4 in. Booster Fan Specifications: duct fan 4 in., specs air flow - 400 CFM, decibels - 52 (+/- 1.5), specs material - metal fan, energy efficient and very quiet, Power - 15-Watt, input voltage - AC 110-Volt/60Hz, 5.8 ft. length of wire cord
- Hydro Crunch Charcoal Virgin Carbon Filter size: 4 in. flange x 12 in. height. 99.5% effective at removing odors, organic compound and airborne particulates, large mesh openings for a highly effective scrub, high quality 100% virgin activated carbon, IP to 18 months in life expectancy, pre filter included
- Hydro Crunch Aluminum Non-insulated Air Duct with 2 aluminum clamps size: 4 in. Dia x 25 ft. long, made from high quality aluminum, not only does the duct act as in intake and exhaust piping for active-cooled fixtures and reflectors, but also stores and dissipates heat at a steady rate, reducing room temperature fluctuations, 3-ply ultra-thick construction for durability. Fire-resistance coating ensures maximum safety, temperature range from 0 to 185F
- Hydro Crunch 24 in. x 24 in. x 60 in. Mylar Grow Tent: Constructed with strong and durable materials. Quick and easy to assemble heavy duty polypropylene/metal corners. Fully washable interior and exterior heavy duty poles to accommodate hanging of heavy equipment. 2 seal-able viewing windows on main door. Rectangle vents use high density window screen (20 in. x 2.7 in.) to keep insects out. Highly reflective Mylar lining and water resistant. Floor tray included. Color: Black and Green. Style: Home box installation instruction. Use: Seeds and Plants
- Hydro Crunch 600-Watt Equivalent LED Light Fixtures feature Daisy Chain capability. Maximum Daisy Chainable Lights: 4 units. Do not exceed 1000-Watt (True Wattage)
omg it's home depot's hydro line lol ... 
yeah. go with for it now, but it's absolute junk.
edit: don't toss it either - be fine for seedlings or growing kitchen herbs and stuff. there's always a use.
yeah. go with for it now, but it's absolute junk.
edit: don't toss it either - be fine for seedlings or growing kitchen herbs and stuff. there's always a use.
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no. just the light. and $400 is not a big investment overall. it's a budget system, with returns to be expected. indoor growing can be a fair bit up front, but you reap the benefits multiple times over time. once you have the gear sorted, it becomes real cheap to run.
the single most important thing you will ever invest in is light. and good light costs. there is no way around it. a decent light would be about as much as the system itself for that space.. in US. maybe a touch less. don't fret over it for now.
it's not a bad start. but nothing in that system is top shelf, and that's ok. it doesn't need to be for now.
edit: it's the exact system home depot is selling canada right now. canadian tire is selling a cheap re-branded GH system so they aren't the only ones cashing in on the new interest.
the single most important thing you will ever invest in is light. and good light costs. there is no way around it. a decent light would be about as much as the system itself for that space.. in US. maybe a touch less. don't fret over it for now.
it's not a bad start. but nothing in that system is top shelf, and that's ok. it doesn't need to be for now.
edit: it's the exact system home depot is selling canada right now. canadian tire is selling a cheap re-branded GH system so they aren't the only ones cashing in on the new interest.
all you need to pull it off is some nutes and a bit better light. maybe a ph meter. you're going the right way.
These guys have got you covered. Stick with it, read, read, read, and read some more. You'll soon fall in love with the entire process.
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Please scroll down for up to date pics in a better light
Jimmysmitts
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Ur stuff is fine . U can grow w anything. As long as the seeds are good u will be fine . We all start w cheaper stuff when we upgrade as we get better and feel it's necessary.
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Understood- thanks. I originally was just alarmed with the yellow curling leaves on the bottom of the plant. Hopefully the cal-mag coming tomorrow will help
Jimmysmitts
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It won't be instant. These things need to work themselves out. Hopefully it's just u overwatered one time or something. It's super important to let em dry out . I know I sound like a broken record but that was my biggest issue when I started
Jimmysmitts
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And your plants look fine , my lowers will yellow and fall of sometimes no matter what. I'd carefully repot the autos though into their final pots .
