Conradino23
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Amy Gardner's First Journal - Outdoor - Critical Cure & Chaos In The Forest
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Besmirched1
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Hey so I could’ve mentioned before that @Besmirched1 has a thread going in the Activism Corner on this topic. So anyone interested can follow up on the convo there
Here’s link...
Experienced help with Australian push for legalization
And B’smirched, i forgot toobthat you’re fresh around here so I should’ve helped you out with this ... You can add that link to your sig and when you ask folks about it you can direct the discussion there. You can do the same thing with your journal once it’s running.
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Hey so I could’ve mentioned before that @Besmirched1 has a thread going in the Activism Corner on this topic. So anyone interested can follow up on the convo there
Here’s link...
Experienced help with Australian push for legalization
And B’smirched, i forgot toobthat you’re fresh around here so I should’ve helped you out with this ... You can add that link to your sig and when you ask folks about it you can direct the discussion there. You can do the same thing with your journal once it’s running.
How To Add Links To Signatures
More member resources are here;
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*# blushes*# showing my newbie status. Was going to ask, thanks Amy. Should have know to mention thread at least rather than hijacking your thread.
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No worries hey, it’s important stuff. Glad you’ve got some discussion of it going. I will no doubt check in on that thread to stay abreast of things!
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Harvest Update: Golden Tiger x Northern Lights (#2)
The first seed of this journal was dropped on 1 November and the last was harvested on 30 April. That makes exactly 6 months of growing and I deserve a break!
The best part about staggered harvesting is enjoying the previous harvest while carrying out the next one and I was happily pampered along by some of the Professor Chaos harvest while I dismantled and washed and hung the last Golden Tiger Northern Lights x.
The mornings are cold and damp now so I waited till later than usual to let it get some sun.
Here are her final portraits. You can tell how low the Autumn sun is in the sky because I began taking these shots at 11:11 (no joke, that was the time stamp on the first photo out of the camera
), so these are near midday shadows.
BY the time I’d finished chopping the branches, the pot had already gone into dappled shadow.
The sun stays behind these treetops for much of the day at this time of year.
Chopped and ready for wash.
A couple of small instances of budrot were discovered and added to the freezer bag where I have a couples of batches of topical oil’s worth of buds.
I love the budwash...
I hung it all on a moveable rack and chased the sun a bit with it for the rest of the day. I’ve read Doc mention that some photosynthesis continues for while after chop. I think he even says for a few days. In any case, I’m pretty sure this plant got more sun on harvest day than the prev 2-3 days put together!
Once the sun was to weak to matter and the temperature dropped, it got moved inside to the DIY closet. My environmentals are better now - it hasn’t hit above 57% RH or below 20ºC since i hung the branches in there.
After 2 days, I decided to trim it up a little bit. (Saved the trim for oil)
I didn’t take a wet weight - so I’m going to take a very broad guess of somewhere between 1-2oz.
Growing this one in the pot and thereby having the ability to move it to the raised bed gave me some valuable info about future grows. I now know I need to make sure whatever I grow in there finishes in about 8weeks ideally. I’ll need to find some other options around the property if I want to grow longer flowering Sativas outside. They’ll need to be cold weather hardy and mould resistant too! I have a couple of spots in mind, and many months to dream up some cunning plans for next year.
It’s also been a beautiful plant to grow. Very vigorous and stately in veg, and it survived well the ordeal I inflicted by letting the pot get washed out and depleted. I’m certain this is a really good smoke too, by all preliminary tests, and I look forward to the post cure indulgences.
I’l report back soon with some more info on the first harvest and whether there is a mould issue in those jars or not - I hope not, but I fear maybe a little in some. Even so, I’m certain that some is also OK! So stay tuned for the blacklight pics coming soon.
Oh ... but before I go, @InTheShed reminded me a page or so back to include a pic of the underside the pot to see if any roots went seeking after we cut off the bottom and stick the pot in the ground... yes they did Shed. Maybe that helped - or maybe it actually diverted energy away from flowering towards root growth at a crucial time... ? Someone may know...
I haven’t forgotten the critter, and you know, I think this will be the last critter. I’ll be back to report on the blacklight pics and to post the final weight. But this is really the last official update of the grow. It’s very fitting then that this week’s critter is the most like our pet. He sleeps in parts of our garden, eats anything he can get access to (including the grass, so he earns his keep in lawn care hours
) and is pretty much around all day, most days. He’s very old... and sometimes he talks to me...
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The first seed of this journal was dropped on 1 November and the last was harvested on 30 April. That makes exactly 6 months of growing and I deserve a break!
The best part about staggered harvesting is enjoying the previous harvest while carrying out the next one and I was happily pampered along by some of the Professor Chaos harvest while I dismantled and washed and hung the last Golden Tiger Northern Lights x.The mornings are cold and damp now so I waited till later than usual to let it get some sun.
Here are her final portraits. You can tell how low the Autumn sun is in the sky because I began taking these shots at 11:11 (no joke, that was the time stamp on the first photo out of the camera
), so these are near midday shadows.BY the time I’d finished chopping the branches, the pot had already gone into dappled shadow.
The sun stays behind these treetops for much of the day at this time of year.
Chopped and ready for wash.
A couple of small instances of budrot were discovered and added to the freezer bag where I have a couples of batches of topical oil’s worth of buds.
I love the budwash...
I hung it all on a moveable rack and chased the sun a bit with it for the rest of the day. I’ve read Doc mention that some photosynthesis continues for while after chop. I think he even says for a few days. In any case, I’m pretty sure this plant got more sun on harvest day than the prev 2-3 days put together!
Once the sun was to weak to matter and the temperature dropped, it got moved inside to the DIY closet. My environmentals are better now - it hasn’t hit above 57% RH or below 20ºC since i hung the branches in there.
After 2 days, I decided to trim it up a little bit. (Saved the trim for oil)
I didn’t take a wet weight - so I’m going to take a very broad guess of somewhere between 1-2oz.
Growing this one in the pot and thereby having the ability to move it to the raised bed gave me some valuable info about future grows. I now know I need to make sure whatever I grow in there finishes in about 8weeks ideally. I’ll need to find some other options around the property if I want to grow longer flowering Sativas outside. They’ll need to be cold weather hardy and mould resistant too! I have a couple of spots in mind, and many months to dream up some cunning plans for next year.
It’s also been a beautiful plant to grow. Very vigorous and stately in veg, and it survived well the ordeal I inflicted by letting the pot get washed out and depleted. I’m certain this is a really good smoke too, by all preliminary tests, and I look forward to the post cure indulgences.
I’l report back soon with some more info on the first harvest and whether there is a mould issue in those jars or not
- I hope not, but I fear maybe a little in some. Even so, I’m certain that some is also OK! So stay tuned for the blacklight pics coming soon.Oh ... but before I go, @InTheShed reminded me a page or so back to include a pic of the underside the pot to see if any roots went seeking after we cut off the bottom and stick the pot in the ground... yes they did Shed. Maybe that helped - or maybe it actually diverted energy away from flowering towards root growth at a crucial time... ? Someone may know...
I haven’t forgotten the critter, and you know, I think this will be the last critter. I’ll be back to report on the blacklight pics and to post the final weight. But this is really the last official update of the grow. It’s very fitting then that this week’s critter is the most like our pet. He sleeps in parts of our garden, eats anything he can get access to (including the grass, so he earns his keep in lawn care hours
) and is pretty much around all day, most days. He’s very old... and sometimes he talks to me...View media item 1539665
Smeegol
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morning ms.Amy, oh wow congrats and congrats again..... by the way the bud wash bubbles pic is also stunning. have a great day....
Last harvest! 
I love having old familiar animals around. We have rabbits. Just yer plain ol' gray urban- living rabbits, but they're the same ones all the time. We have a brush pile that they live in during winter. I have a small quick dog that that gets clipped to a 8 meter tether at the door, and they've all become familiar, too. The dog tries something new every week or so, but the big fat rabbits just watch him with a side-eye until it's time to split, dog makes an appropriate effort .... knows he only has 16 meters, so ... they've never actually met face to face. All parties seem to enjoy the exercise though.
I love having old familiar animals around. We have rabbits. Just yer plain ol' gray urban- living rabbits, but they're the same ones all the time. We have a brush pile that they live in during winter. I have a small quick dog that that gets clipped to a 8 meter tether at the door, and they've all become familiar, too. The dog tries something new every week or so, but the big fat rabbits just watch him with a side-eye until it's time to split, dog makes an appropriate effort .... knows he only has 16 meters, so ... they've never actually met face to face. All parties seem to enjoy the exercise though.
Beautiful pics and an excellent narrative Amy! I don't think plants stop growing roots when they go into flower but I'm sure they slow down. Doesn't look like a lot of growth into the soil which confirms what another grower found when the up-potted just before flip. Theory confirmed!
I love your critter. All we have here lately are rats!
I love your critter. All we have here lately are rats!
Besmirched1
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Awesome work, and a well deserved break coming.
On the roots, as a bonsai grower ( still very much an apprentice), roots can be trimmed and plants full defoliated and be kept in impossibly tiny pots for years. It's all about maintaining a balance and replicating nature.
This is where As above so below comes from as a Maxim? Mantra? Rule? I use this as a guide to repot etc as in- if the "tree" above ground would fill your pot upside down then thats a full pot.
Not sure I explained that right, so..
Basically the way a tree looks ontop mostly exactly mirrors what's underground. As in each leaf, node, brach, trunk has a corresponding tap root, root node, side root and feeder root
If a tree leans left, the roots go right at same angle to "support" the structure.
So this helps in site selection in that trees that have trunks that twist and bend are dodging rocks etc in the ground. This you can "see" the underworld of the environment expressed in the shape of the tree.
Bonsai book reference I use is;
The Masters book of bonsai. I highly recommend studying bonsai theory if only for interest and the awesomeness of the bonsai's.
Oh so think during flowering then as the plant is still growing/fattening you will still see corresponding root growth but in the same rate as the top?
On the roots, as a bonsai grower ( still very much an apprentice), roots can be trimmed and plants full defoliated and be kept in impossibly tiny pots for years. It's all about maintaining a balance and replicating nature.
This is where As above so below comes from as a Maxim? Mantra? Rule? I use this as a guide to repot etc as in- if the "tree" above ground would fill your pot upside down then thats a full pot.
Not sure I explained that right, so..
Basically the way a tree looks ontop mostly exactly mirrors what's underground. As in each leaf, node, brach, trunk has a corresponding tap root, root node, side root and feeder root
If a tree leans left, the roots go right at same angle to "support" the structure.
So this helps in site selection in that trees that have trunks that twist and bend are dodging rocks etc in the ground. This you can "see" the underworld of the environment expressed in the shape of the tree.
Bonsai book reference I use is;
The Masters book of bonsai. I highly recommend studying bonsai theory if only for interest and the awesomeness of the bonsai's.
Oh so think during flowering then as the plant is still growing/fattening you will still see corresponding root growth but in the same rate as the top?
MaddHacker
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Morning from state side Amy... Was just checking in to see if you got that one yet.. Looks decent as hell, make a few days or nights a whole lot better... Just wanted to say sorry again about hijacking the other day... Most people arent as bothered by the conversations people are having on their thread, but when they say find another spot, It Is time to find another spot... LOL... Party over get out ish.... MMMm... Anyway hope all is well for you and yours, and that wont happen again.... Politics, anyway... I wasnt really trying to start a revolution at all, just my experience first hand... I hate politics anyway, always ends up bad... I have been to and in the House and Senate, just a bunch of bullies and Kids ..... Green Days..
Just wanted to say sorry again about hijacking the other day... Most people arent as bothered by the conversations people are having on their thread, but when they say find another spot, It Is time to find another spot... LOL... Party over get out ish.... MMMm... Anyway hope all is well for you and yours, and that wont happen again.... Politics, anyway... I wasnt really trying to start a revolution at all, just my experience first hand... I hate politics anyway, always ends up bad... I have been to and in the House and Senate, just a bunch of bullies and Kids ..... Green Days..
Bravo Amy!!! 
A wonderful update to end a delightful journal.
The budwashing pic is a winner. I’d submit. It’s so different..... and beautiful. All of your pictures are stunning.
We’ll miss the critter inclusions. I think we all got hooked on that. You might need to drop a few in the off topics.
Enjoy your well-deserved break and stay medicated. Lol!
A wonderful update to end a delightful journal. The budwashing pic is a winner. I’d submit. It’s so different..... and beautiful. All of your pictures are stunning.
We’ll miss the critter inclusions. I think we all got hooked on that. You might need to drop a few in the off topics.
Enjoy your well-deserved break and stay medicated. Lol!
dynamo1
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Great grow I have thoroughly enjoyed it,congratulations on the photo win. 
Great write up......great pictures too.....especially the wallaby.
AH-mazing pictures Amy, the one with the blue sky then the sun behind that one bud, is award-winning. And the wallaby is so clear and in focus, I can almost touch him. He's so real!!! And the shadow on the bamboo divider, is so abstract, I love it.
Congratulations on a such a big adventure and looking forward for the inside grow. Great job and handling the twists and turns of the weather; and showcasing Nature's beauty of critters and animals as we don't get to appreciate them enough.
Congratulations on a such a big adventure and looking forward for the inside grow. Great job and handling the twists and turns of the weather; and showcasing Nature's beauty of critters and animals as we don't get to appreciate them enough.
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was I bothered? Not as much as I sounded...
You all must think me terrible boorish. I don’t mean get out...
I do like a guideline though so all I’m saying is there are spaces for deeper political debates etc. and activism and I just get easily exhausted by tangents. Regardless of it happening quite frequently on other journals - I need to keep my thinking within a realm or I get overwhelmed. It’s one reason I like the forums actually because I can compartmentalise my time ‘intellectually’, based on what I’m up for at the time - be it growing talk and pics (usually this!), or medical and oil making, or political, or philosophical etc. I think you both had interesting and valid things to say! So, not saying get out - saying, it’s sounds great, continue it in the spot where folks interested in it are going to be browsing. ANd at the same time letting you that I am not really able to engage with it much, even if I am passionate about legalisation - I am. I wish I had more energy for activism but sadly i don’t. I do it the way I can by growing and by learning about how to use it for my health and by giving pain oil to my friends I greatly admire and am very grateful for those who do have the energy and use it in productive ways the way you are aiming at Besmirched So, for my limited energy level, I just prefer the journal to stay within the growing and using realms - folks can ramble on about those here till the cows come home. And speaking of this...
This intrigues me. I do a lot by the moon. my first tincture has been in the back of a dark drawer since the last new moon. And I always drop seeds on a new moon in a fertile sign. We know first hand around here that the practices of pruning and weeding can be greatly influenced by the current phase of the moon.
Can you say more about what you mean by ‘solid’ and ‘soluble’ by way of feeding?
Besmirched1
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was I bothered? Not as much as I sounded...
You all must think me terrible boorish. I don’t mean get out...
So, for my limited energy level, I just prefer the journal to stay within the growing and using realms - folks can ramble on about those here till the cows come home. And speaking of this...
This intrigues me. I do a lot by the moon. my first tincture has been in the back of a dark drawer since the last new moon. And I always drop seeds on a new moon in a fertile sign. We know first hand around here that the practices of pruning and weeding can be greatly influenced by the current phase of the moon.
Can you say more about what you mean by ‘solid’ and ‘soluble’ by way of feeding?
Solid feeding is using manure spread round the top. You can see lumps of Turkey poo in my journal ( ha neat advert) lol. You can also make solid blocks for feeding, I have a recipe from bonsai club days somewhere ## will dig it out###.
Biochar is a good way also, soak in liquid fertilizer and dry. Place in top of pot.
Solid feeding is slow release, and at the dark cycle the SAP flow in the plants is slowing down and moving into the roots to build more to support the and provided by the new growth. It's a symbiotic relationship, it's wonderfully ironic, and it thrills me to my core.
Liquid feeds are readily available suspended in water and in pots a little wasteful, but nessesary. Unless u bed char at bottom of pot to catch nutrient loss.
When the moon us rising and over full moon the SAP flow is increasing and moving toward/into the tops and using the newly formed feeder roots to fuel new growth.
This explains the dead patch growth lull u seem to have when outdoors and not pushing hard.
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Check my journal Amy as the repot shows as above so below and what was achieved in 12 weeks from germination, in terms of root fill and the way the feeding works.
Besmirched1
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Oh and we both just knew you were right and needed to move it to an appropriate place.
All good.
Besmirched1
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This was absolutely fascinating, and thank you for sharing that.
I live in the city, under constant outdoor lighting. It's almost terrifying how out of touch you can become with the natural cosmic rhythms. I find myself drawn to pay more attention to moon cycles though. I grow hempy, so I don't think any of this is applicable to me, excepting the timing of the seed drops, but I'm going to contemplate how this might translate over to my plants beyond that. How intriguing.
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It was like Christmas here yesterday!
My t-shirt of honour is more of a nightdress! Maybe they don’t come in small or medium - it nearly reaches my knees!. I will wear it with pride around the house - seeing as that’s where I am pretty much all the time and I spend 80% of my time in or on my bed, it seems fitting!
Some Auto fun for round the garden. 10 x Early Miss (although they sent me 13!)
Moon gardening has more to do with the gravitational pull that the light per se. The light is what we see, the pull is what influences water. So whether you notice it or not, the influence of the moon remains
I’m a moonchild (born under the constellation of Cancer) so even when I was ensconced in the inner city for years, I think I looked at the moon nearly every night ...
I’m having a rare outing today for something other than a doctors appointment
I’m getting my hair cut! I have enjoyed lovely long hair for the last 20+ years. It’s kind of curly-ish dark and going delightfully grey in all the right ways. It’s become too taxing to manage and has been falling out at alarming rates (since the Ant incident.actually). I was close to shaving it off yesterday! I had to wash it and just couldn’t face it. I held of getting my partner to do shave it - it might’ve been a worse ordeal! So we just cut off my ponytail at the base of my skull - wow it made the hair wash much easier. As of tomorrow I think I’ll have some kind of buzz cut to play with. Never thought I’d go short again, so if I’m doing it - and it’s essential that I do, then I’m doing something funky, like a mohawk of some kind.
My t-shirt of honour is more of a nightdress! Maybe they don’t come in small or medium - it nearly reaches my knees!. I will wear it with pride around the house - seeing as that’s where I am pretty much all the time and I spend 80% of my time in or on my bed, it seems fitting!
Some Auto fun for round the garden. 10 x Early Miss (although they sent me 13!)
One of the ways we notice moon phases affect our gardening practices strongly is with weeding and pruning. The pruning might be relevant to you. If you want to encourage new growth after a prune, do it on the new and waxing moon, preferably in a fertile sign (think water, then fire). Pruning on a no moon will have less vigorous regrowth. Works for weeding too, we always try to pull weeds during the dark moon (last 5-7days of waxing) - they don’t come back.
Moon gardening has more to do with the gravitational pull that the light per se. The light is what we see, the pull is what influences water. So whether you notice it or not, the influence of the moon remains
I’m a moonchild (born under the constellation of Cancer) so even when I was ensconced in the inner city for years, I think I looked at the moon nearly every night ...
I’m having a rare outing today for something other than a doctors appointment
I’m getting my hair cut! I have enjoyed lovely long hair for the last 20+ years. It’s kind of curly-ish dark and going delightfully grey in all the right ways. It’s become too taxing to manage and has been falling out at alarming rates (since the Ant incident.actually). I was close to shaving it off yesterday! I had to wash it and just couldn’t face it. I held of getting my partner to do shave it - it might’ve been a worse ordeal! So we just cut off my ponytail at the base of my skull - wow it made the hair wash much easier. As of tomorrow I think I’ll have some kind of buzz cut to play with. Never thought I’d go short again, so if I’m doing it - and it’s essential that I do, then I’m doing something funky, like a mohawk of some kind.
dynamo1
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Mohawk
one you could color and iron up straight? (Glen Plake). Whoo Hoo what a haul, well deserved. I should pay more attention to waxing and waning moon, most of the time it is what can I get done--Now ---Nice shirt---Have a wonderful time getting out and about.
one you could color and iron up straight? (Glen Plake). Whoo Hoo what a haul, well deserved. I should pay more attention to waxing and waning moon, most of the time it is what can I get done--Now ---Nice shirt---Have a wonderful time getting out and about.