Amy Gardner's First Journal - Outdoor - Critical Cure & Chaos In The Forest

MerryAnna said:
* crude sugar- the osmotic pressure gets better the cruder the sugar is, so white will work, but not as well as muscovado sugar. You can use molasses iso sugar, but because it's a liquid, not crystalline, again, osmotic pressure (she says as though she has the slightest clue as to what osmotic pressure is.������. No effing idea, but it does something important).
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That's great, because an article I've been studying lately talks about osmosis as the diffusion of water in soil which, combined with capillary action, enables nutrients to get into the plant roots. Nutrients exist in soil water as dissolved solids, or solute, and osmosis describes a process whereby soil water moves "from areas of low solute concentration to areas of high solute concentration", thereby enabling the even distribution or diffusion, of nutrients throughout soil. (so i while I was assimilating this info I realised why they call it Osmocote ;))

Going back a step - in order for nutrients to be absorbed by roots they have to make contact and this contact comes about in 3 different ways: 1. root interception (as far as I can understand it this describes the roots seeking out and finding nutrients via exploring the soil i.e., growing), 2. mass flow (the movement of water past the root surface) and 3. diffusion (different to what i described as diffusion above, but the same principal/process - here it's the diffusion "of a particular nutrient along a particular concentration gradient"). For all of these it makes sense to think that efficiency is going to be better when there is even distribution of nutrients and osmosis, as described above, is what enables that distribution. Without being able to explain any further about that (i'll link the article below), I can see that this osmotic pressure you mention has a lot to do with this! A quick wiki search on osmotic pressure talks about it being something which controls (manages? regulates? makes possible - i'm not sure the best word here) the passing of water through a membrane - often a cell membrane is what's given as example. So I don't know if more or less osmotic pressure is better for this passage - but which ever it is this crude sugar you speak of is therefore being described as some kind of enabler of dissolved particles getting through. My guess is that it might be lowering the osmotic pressure because in reverse osmosis water purification it is high osmotic pressure that allows water to pass through the filter membrane but not the particles. (Be great if someone could confirm or deny this guess and its bases).

I'm no scientist and I'm hoping someone who knows bit here will step in and clarify. I don't want to become a soil scientist either, but I want to understand enough so that when someone trying to sell me a product says it does a certain thing (like improves osmotic pressure, or improves cation exchange capacity, for example) I kind of have a need to understand, at some level, what that means.

It's exciting too - because i'm looking at the ground totally differently now :thumb: And now you might (MA) have some effing idea :rollit:

The article I'm referencing is this one (originally this link was provided by Conradino23 - in another journal)

Soil Management

I'm wondering also - is there another way to optimise this 'pressure' rather than using sugar...:hmmm:

I know there are 1 or 2 PMs awaiting my attention. My responses are formulating, just a bit busy preparing to go away. I'll get there soon enough ... :Love:

:Namaste:
 
Lol this is not a journal i can read heavily medicated late at night XD so wordy and educational, it would be a shame to read over it and forget it !

Always on my morning reads :bravo: on the wealth of information already in here, good work and thanks for bringing it all to us Amy!

My hat goes off to you, among the others who have contributed! . .
 
Hi, all!
Thanks for that explanation, Ms. G! I have more of a clue now .
I've had it on my to do list to research, but i've been soooooo busy lately, and #1 on my to do list is Doing Something about the Stoner Attack Pigeons.
Any advice on how to deter pigeons from sitting in my weed eating my buds? They've decimated the last few plants of my previous grow. At the moment, my solution is to construct a hoop house / wooden scaffold type of thing covered with a very loosely woven outdoor cloth. Any tips would be grand .
I understand the concept of osmosis as explained yonks ago in high school biology, but this seems to relate more to physics. I know it's all interconnected, like PAR, lumen, Kelvin etc all relate to each other ito light, but i was never very good at physics. (It took me a year to realise it's all just different ways to describe the same thing. I felt like a genius. ). I'm not too worried, though. What i've learned is that stuff reveal themselves to you (ito growing) when it's the right time. At some point, i will understand it (just need to find the right article / person to explain it to me . I have very murky requirements.when it comes to learning - i learn best when people compare concepts & ideas to naughty / dirty / kinky / all of the above stuff).
Have a lovely day further, Weed Mafia!
 
bignstrange said:
Lol this is not a journal i can read heavily medicated late at night XD so wordy and educational, it would be a shame to read over it and forget it !

Always on my morning reads :bravo: on the wealth of information already in here, good work and thanks for bringing it all to us Amy!

My hat goes off to you, among the others who have contributed! . .
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Thanks Big (is that ok to cal you that?)That's funny - i've been trying not to be wordy (it's my natural way)! But this is all stuff i'm trying to learn myself - I'm not new to study but the soil stuff is really new to me on this level. Sometimes the best way to consolidate learning is to write it out or talk it through so someone else can understand it. When your understanding is rudimentary, it's more difficult to explain or describe simply and with few words. SO this journal is going to be lots of me trying to learn in front of everyone here - sometimes it might get less wordy if I'm grasping things well - and more wordy when i'm struggling with concept. But sometimes just wordy cause i like to chat !:smokin2:

So - osmosis can be described by simple analogy to sugar dissolving in water (I think this analogy is int he article i linked) - how the sugar molecules disperse throughout the water to eventually be evenly distributed throughout. This is what osmosis in soil is describing - the way the distribution of nutrients particle is evened out. And reading more about osmotic pressure, I realise i was a bit off the mark earlier - more osmotic pressure makes osmosis more efficient. I think.

And of course no-one has to understand osmosis in soil to grow great cannabis! I'm beginning a long journey of learning about soil and developing a couple of sites on my own 'little piece of dirt' on this planet so I have desire to understand the system i'm setting out to 'improve' and manipulate to the end of growing better and better cannabis in it. That process seems to want to start with Cation exchange (that's where the experts were directing me) and that began with osmosis - a perfect fit as I have always loved osmosis as a form of learning. It works here. I've imbibed a great deal through treading this site over the years (and grown some nice plants with this site as my nearly sole guide). Time to take to a bit further.

I'll be away a bit this next week - but will be ordering some of my amendments and formulating my cunning plans.

Be well everyone - and stay as high as you like :circle-of-love:
 
Amy Gardner said:
Thanks Big (is that ok to cal you that?)That's funny - i've been trying not to be wordy (it's my natural way)! But this is all stuff i'm trying to learn myself - I'm not new to study but the soil stuff is really new to me on this level. Sometimes the best way to consolidate learning is to write it out or talk it through so someone else can understand it. When your understanding is rudimentary, it's more difficult to explain or describe simply and with few words. SO this journal is going to be lots of me trying to learn in front of everyone here - sometimes it might get less wordy if I'm grasping things well - and more wordy when i'm struggling with concept. But sometimes just wordy cause i like to chat !:smokin2:

So - osmosis can be described by simple analogy to sugar dissolving in water (I think this analogy is int he article i linked) - how the sugar molecules disperse throughout the water to eventually be evenly distributed throughout. This is what osmosis in soil is describing - the way the distribution of nutrients particle is evened out. And reading more about osmotic pressure, I realise i was a bit off the mark earlier - more osmotic pressure makes osmosis more efficient. I think.

And of course no-one has to understand osmosis in soil to grow great cannabis! I'm beginning a long journey of learning about soil and developing a couple of sites on my own 'little piece of dirt' on this planet so I have desire to understand the system i'm setting out to 'improve' and manipulate to the end of growing better and better cannabis in it. That process seems to want to start with Cation exchange (that's where the experts were directing me) and that began with osmosis - a perfect fit as I have always loved osmosis as a form of learning. It works here. I've imbibed a great deal through treading this site over the years (and grown some nice plants with this site as my nearly sole guide). Time to take to a bit further.

I'll be away a bit this next week - but will be ordering some of my amendments and formulating my cunning plans.

Be well everyone - and stay as high as you like :circle-of-love:
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Do you listen to "The Pot Cast" the host is a grower and cannabis activist from Australia.
He has an amazing interview with Jeremy From Buildasoil. They talk a lot about Australias soil and it's properties compared to the US and how you need different amendments based on your location. Episode 5 - Jeremy of BuildASoil by The Pot Cast | Free Listening on SoundCloud
I encourage everyone who is interested in organics or thinking of making the transition into living organics listen as well.
I thought it would particularly interesting to you seeing the host is an Aussie as well.
Have a great weekend.
 
GROWant said:
Do you listen to "The Pot Cast" the host is a grower and cannabis activist from Australia.
He has an amazing interview with Jeremy From Buildasoil. They talk a lot about Australias soil and it's properties compared to the US and how you need different amendments based on your location. Episode 5 - Jeremy of BuildASoil by The Pot Cast | Free Listening on SoundCloud
I encourage everyone who is interested in organics or thinking of making the transition into living organics listen as well.
I thought it would particularly interesting to you seeing the host is an Aussie as well.
Have a great weekend.
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Thanks for mentioning that soil differs in different locales. I've started about 9 different gardens in various regions (& on different continents) where i've lived, 5 or so here in SA. i couldn't grow bamboo in China, i crap you not. 3 1/2 years there, i bought a bamboo shoot every month, & promptly killed it. I tried to grow it in my native conditions iso their own native conditions. I ammended, watered & did soil builds like at home, which was completely and utterly wrong for 1) type of plant and 2) the country/continent/hemisphere. Even in my own, current garden, there are different soil types & requirements.
It's so very obvious in a "can't see the forest for the trees" way - people who've worked with soil before (like me) forget to mention it, and minty green newbies don't know what questions to ask, so i feel it kind of slips under the radar 95% of the time. Thanks, GROWant, and respect for pointing out this important & oft overlooked detail.
 
Dear Amy,
I understood the second "chapter" on osmosis better than the 1st one - i learn in exactly the same way, by explaining stuff to myself in slightly different ways, until i have a 360° "view" of a topic. Einstein said that if you can't explain something simply enough, you don't actually understand it yourself. He was quite a clever fellow, so i believe him.
Anyhoo, keen to hear about yer cunning plan, Baldric. ( "C: big, blue, wobbly thing with fish in it. Dog: not a cat.") I'm getting the dvd boxset out after this post!!! Bong, Blackadder & Brownies. Awesome Friday night!
So, to recap:
1) we're both chatty overexplainers
2) love of terrific television
3) like a dog with a bone about cannabis, research etc
Now... if you tell me you share my love of Sir Terry Pratchett, i'm moving to Aus, cause then you're my long lost sister.
Enjoy your trip, sometimes it's good to step away from the familiar while you're pondering important decisions, it kind of trims the fat off of elaborate plans. When i'm on site, i ponder away while doing busy work, and it focuses & centers me.
✌&❤
 
WoundedKnee said:
Good reading - ladies be seriously clever !!
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Wounded! welcome :welcome: and thanks for coming over. You're on the list of invites I never finished sending out as well. Glad to have you here - it's going to be a fun summer :thumb:

GROWant said:
Do you listen to "The Pot Cast" the host is a grower and cannabis activist from Australia.
He has an amazing interview with Jeremy From Buildasoil. They talk a lot about Australias soil and it's properties compared to the US and how you need different amendments based on your location. Episode 5 - Jeremy of BuildASoil by The Pot Cast | Free Listening on SoundCloud
I encourage everyone who is interested in organics or thinking of making the transition into living organics listen as well.
I thought it would particularly interesting to you seeing the host is an Aussie as well.
Have a great weekend.
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Seriously awesome - I didn't know about it. Thanks :thumb:
 
MerryAnna said:
Hi, all!
Thanks for that explanation, Ms. G! I have more of a clue now .
I've had it on my to do list to research, but i've been soooooo busy lately, and #1 on my to do list is Doing Something about the Stoner Attack Pigeons.
Any advice on how to deter pigeons from sitting in my weed eating my buds? They've decimated the last few plants of my previous grow. At the moment, my solution is to construct a hoop house / wooden scaffold type of thing covered with a very loosely woven outdoor cloth. Any tips would be grand .
I understand the concept of osmosis as explained yonks ago in high school biology, but this seems to relate more to physics. I know it's all interconnected, like PAR, lumen, Kelvin etc all relate to each other ito light, but i was never very good at physics. (It took me a year to realise it's all just different ways to describe the same thing. I felt like a genius. ). I'm not too worried, though. What i've learned is that stuff reveal themselves to you (ito growing) when it's the right time. At some point, i will understand it (just need to find the right article / person to explain it to me . I have very murky requirements.when it comes to learning - i learn best when people compare concepts & ideas to naughty / dirty / kinky / all of the above stuff).
Have a lovely day further, Weed Mafia!
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If you can somehow configure a loose covering with chicken wire, the pigeons won't be able to get to the plants. Chicken wire is what we use in our urban areas to keep pigeons from roosting on our porches and window sills of buildings. It doesn't have to be anything neat and fancy, in fact the more chaotic the better.
 
SweetSue said:
If you can somehow configure a loose covering with chicken wire, the pigeons won't be able to get to the plants. Chicken wire is what we use in our urban areas to keep pigeons from roosting on our porches and window sills of buildings. It doesn't have to be anything neat and fancy, in fact the more chaotic the better.
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Thanks for great advice, Sue! This is what they've done:
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I feel like wringing their necks, but weed is natural, pigeons are natural, it's the circle of life.
Anyway, will get that sorted ASAP, thanks again. ❤❤❤
 
Definetly use Chicken Wire, lets light penetrate at almost 100%, also make it unappealing as possible with cable ties poking up at random angles, again, takes away virtually no light and puts off any birds from landing
 
WoundedKnee said:
Definetly use Chicken Wire, lets light penetrate at almost 100%, also make it unappealing as possible with cable ties poking up at random angles, again, takes away virtually no light and puts off any birds from landing
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Thanks. Great tip on the cable ties etc to poke the @#$* out of the sky rats. (I'm very annoyed with them, garden is full of seed crops for them specifically. They've never attacked my ganja before, and i don't why now all of a sudden).
✌&❤
 
Read Micheal Pollen's (seriously, thats his real name !) 'Botany of Desire' it is a great book about why animals and people propagate various things, Cannabis being one.
 
WoundedKnee said:
Read Micheal Pollen's (seriously, thats his real name !) 'Botany of Desire' it is a great book about why animals and people propagate various things, Cannabis being one.
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LMAO . I saw that book online, just the title though, and i thought it was about some kinky gardeners getting off with each other (and that it was either the worst or most brilliant pseudonym ever made up). And i was kind of itching to read it, just to find out what it was about. ✌
 
MerryAnna said:
LMAO . I saw that book online, just the title though, and i thought it was about some kinky gardeners getting off with each other (and that it was either the worst or most brilliant pseudonym ever made up). And i was kind of itching to read it, just to find out what it was about. ✌
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For sensual phrases describing aroma and flavor, I recommend Diane Ackerman: Natural History of the Senses.
 
MerryAnna said:
LMAO . I saw that book online, just the title though, and i thought it was about some kinky gardeners getting off with each other (and that it was either the worst or most brilliant pseudonym ever made up). And i was kind of itching to read it, just to find out what it was about. ✌
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He is a legit writer. It kind of blows your mind with some pretty radical ideas.
 
hello all :circle-of-love::volcano-smiley:

it's so very lovely to see you've been engaging each other while i've been away. I'm in serious recovery today from a big week so am browsing the 420 news, a few journals and am about to catch up on the recommended podcasts and readings you've all shared here this past week. Thanks :thumb:

wanted to stop by and share this - underside view of my first indoor grow at day 59 (Critical+CBD auto). This medicine will support the grower throughout the summer outdoor grow :slide:

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I'm dropping seeds in water later today...
 
Mmm frosty and wet with resin, gorgeous Amy.

Hope you enjoy your time to recoup:3
 
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