Derbybud
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About time we get a photo dump. Looking good Amy.
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thanks Derby!Looking good Amy.
thanks ladyNice buds lady!!
Yikes on those critters!!
They were both photographed within a metre of my room ...friend is lovely. Good Critter.
how did you go? I did it over a year ago and was already a member. Let me know if you still can’t sign up. I’m signing up the lovely other today so will see how the process is.I could not seem to figure that out. I will try again.
Thanks ‘Rugged - I agree about outdoor sunbaked flowers!Looking quite lovely Amy. Just something about outdoor flowers. Great job.
Do you ever get any pollinated flowers being outdoors ?
Happy harvest
Thanks d! Team harvest party!I 'd like to help you out,
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PCK is chopped and hanging!
One of my favorite typos!the lively other
you funny! I have some photos showing both the fluffy mold, and many cloudy trichs... someday soon I’ll post ‘em.Without having seen it I would say it needs another week,
Dam that sucks,Update: The end... most likely
I knew I had some. It’s turned out to be more than I thought.
In the last 24hrs I have spent many many moments over samples from the garden with the loupe, bright light and camera and no matter how hard I try I just can’t make my eyes unsee it: mold/mould.
It’s on everything and a few different types, by the looks. I’ll post some pics here for confirmation. At this stage I am fully resigned to writing off the grow, but the lovely other wanted me to check w my crew here to make sure - in case I’m having a bipolar extreme moment.
So please share your opinions and experience! (I’m pretty sure I’m not... )
To be clear, I’m not talking about budrot/botrytis although there was little bits of that too which I chopped off as well. A bit of budrot is usually manageable. It was looking for more of that which led me to see the other types.
I mentioned I‘d seen white fuzzy mold on the PCK, well I chopped off what I’d seen, took a bunch of pre-harvest photos and then harvested and washed (4bucket wash w h202 in first).
Then I scrutinised the photos and in pretty much all of them, fairly nice looking buds like these...
Turned out to look like this up close. (FYI - there is no significant sign of spider mites so i am pretty sure it is not spider mite webbing.) There were areas like this all over, as it turns out.
It’s my feeling that this is white mold. I am still to inspect them properly post-wash - I trimmed one and couldn’t see much, but I am not really convinced - and am getting tired of trying not to breathe while I look at them very closely!
The other type that I am also seeing to varying degrees on the SP x WX and the PS is this type - a brownish, greyish, bluish fuzz growing on pistil hairs.
On the SP x WX
On the SP
There are bits of this scattered all over.
Everything you read about mold says that if it’s visible then the spores have been there for a while. Which means spores are likely in other places that can’t yet be seen.
Today I looked at the single cola SP x WX which also got harvested yesterday, and washed, and there was white fluffy webbing like the stuff on the PCK on that as well - and that was post wash.
The weather has been very variable again in the last week: rainy, cold overnight, hot, cold, still - you name it. And now we are about to have 3 straight days of rain. The cover has been keeping them dry but the conditions are just unfavourable and spraying for the white fly most certinaly has not helped the situation.
I won’t share any more pics. Suffice it to say that I am seeing these kinds of instances randomly all over on all plants except Lilly which I have not inspected yet (it takes more energy that I have so I’ll look tomorrow!). I have never seen anything remotely like this on my indoor buds.
It’s oddly funny (or maybe just ironic) how I spent most of January assuming I probably wouldnt get a harvest because of the fire’s, and then got surprised, and now it turns out that may be true after all
I‘ve navigated the terrain of disappointment, denial, shame, denial, self-blame, denial, momentary despair ... and then recognition that I still have jars full of bud, followed by solid acceptance of the fact that moldy bud IS NOT medicine. So unless there is some option to turn them into topical oil, which still makes me a bit nervous, it will all get trashed or burned. I don’t plan to be messing w mold.
I therefore have to reconsider how I grow outside. All these plants reportedly have good resistance to mold and were chosen accordingly - it’s just the shortness of my flower season and losing the sun behind trees a bit at this stage. Mold has been a spectre every year and while budrot can be cut out etc., it’s not the only type and the the physicality of managing, checking and trouble shooting it is just beyond my capacity - if I’m to be fully honest w myself. I have been in so much pain from what’s been required to look carefully at the plants outside (I now know that Bubba Hash bedtime starbursts are great daytime pain relief ). Future summer grows will need to be different.
Moving on then, I am consoling myself by drawing plans for some more ideal indoor grow spaces and unboxing the new Viparspectra SP1500 that arrived this week. It looks to be a beautiful piece of kit and down the track will enable me to have a perpetual setup, with seperate veg space. In the short term it may be helping a buddy get started growing. I took this pic for the contest thread I’m very fond of the little 420 jar Perfect size for the bedside stash of Bubba Hash!
Really nice looking light. Plus it’s fairly lightweight to handle which is always a plus.
Oh - I also wanted to ask Shed if you think it ok to still dry the stems and roots for making a salve - assuming I can’t see anything on them... but maybe i should be cutting all losses.
It’s not the update i wanted to post is it? It’s been a “warts and all” journal since the apocalyptic NYE really, so there’s a level on which this doesn’t even surprise me.
A couple of critters just for fun then - it was the only one I every saw and looks to be stuck in the trichomes: an aphid!
And this is some kind of tin wasp I think - playing on the washed PCK. WHile watching it though the lens I realised it seemed to be nibbling on the trich heads so i flicked it off, but captured this fun one one first.
And this is some kind of tin wasp I think - playing on the washed PCK. WHile watching it though the lens I realised it seemed to be nibbling on the trich heads so i flicked it off, but captured this fun one one first.
That sucks Amy! You can make oil out of it without worry though. You just have to do an alcohol extraction. I've posted my method a few times but I can get it to you again if it's something you want to try.
That is a bummer. I have never seen the second type of mold, but know a few growers that lost a large part of their crops due to web mold. I have seen it mentioned that it can be caused by borers/caterpillars. Neiko's extraction method may be you best bet if it is something within your capabilities. If not I have seen Van and others mention making topicals out of moldy bud without issue. I will also say that I have seen Doc mention using another bucket when mold is suspected that I believe contains hydrogen peroxide to try and help clean mold off. Though you may want to ask him for clarification.
Good call, Amy...Tough decision, but really the only option to maintain a clear consciencebut if there’s any risk i just can’t risk it.