Amy Gardner Of Eden: Forest Adventures With Doc Bud’s HBB

[Agemon]

Great outdoor stuff Amy! Loved that silhouette too! You're giving me some ideas about outdoor growing!

I've been looking for a spot in the yard to do a summer time grow, I think I've found a dynamite spot. Shady for most of the day, but when it's 120 out, that's good! She'll get plenty of sprinkler water and I'll be able to drop nutes as needed.

 

[Amy Gardner]

Hi Age - thanks for you kind words! And to the garden - I think this is your first visit here

The silhouette is nearly always an iPhone shot - first one was a whim on the fly and it was so popular I kind of have to do it every time now - it a compulsion

I don’t know if lots of shade is so advisable. But if it’s the only thing that will save it from that heat then you prob’ly have to. I’ve grown in spots that were lots of dappled shade and some direct and it was ok - just the buds don’t thicken up really. They stay pretty airy. Regardless, it always nice to have one growing outside and the flavour & all from the ground and the sun is always worth it! I look forward to it

 

[InTheShed]

I’m growing for my wife too. But I love it so much as a hobby that I will just keep growing.

We're twins Reave! This is my exact story. She has more than enough to smoke that I could take a break over the winters, but where's the fun in that!

My Bedroom Cookies mothers that I flowered are in Fox Farms Ocean Forest with Osmocote +.

How much Osmocote+ do you think I would need with ProMix in a 7g pot? Maybe I'll run my autoflower that way this summer and see how it does. It would be one less gallon of MegaCrop to mix, since it would need a different amount from all the rest.

 

[Amy Gardner]

flowered are in Fox Farms Ocean Forest with Osmocote +. They aren’t organic but they grew like champs considering I just water every three days like clockwork.

How much Osmocote+ do you think I would need with ProMix in a 7g pot?

Does the FF have other ‘stuff’ in it? Why is it not organic - I thought osmocote+ was

 

[Agemon]

Sorry it took so long.

 

[Amy Gardner]

Never too late for anything or anyone in my world

 

[InTheShed]

FFOF is organic:
Ocean Forest® is a powerhouse blend of aged forest products, sphagnum peat moss, earthworm castings, bat guano, fish emulsion, and crab meal.

So it's got nutes in it already. Osmocote+ has this on their website:
Osmocote® uses a proprietary biodegradable resin-coating to encapsulate a nutritional prill. We call the coated prill a granule. Each homogeneous prill contains a thoughtfully blended mix of nitrogen, phosphorous and potassium, the fundamentals of all living things. The resin-coating is made from linseed oil and is unique because the nutrition passes from the prill through the coating by the natural phenomonon of osmosis. As the plant’s root system takes-up nutrition from the soil, Osmocote® meters-out replacements, and at the rate. Plant feeding and the release of nutrients from the Osmocote® granule are both triggered by soil temperature and the presence of moisture. Feeding and replenishment are in nautral harmony.

LOL on the natural harmony (not to mention the misspelling)!

Here is how they answer the organic question:
The ingredients in this product are as natural as the first 92 elements in the periodic table. A plant does not distinguish between nitrogen from chicken manure versus nitrogen from natural gas. Nitrogen is nitrogen. Nitrogen from Osmocote® has limited leeching, even after it is exposed to heavy rainfall or overwatering.

I'm sure I've read other growers say that plants can't tell organic nutrients from synthetic ones as well.

 

[LaquerHead]

blend of aged forest products

Cheap cheap cheap fillers! Build your own ffof for half the cost

 

[InTheShed]

I'm a ProMix HP grower. Farside just built his own ProMix version here.

 

[Reave]

I'm a ProMix HP grower. Farside just built his own ProMix version here.

Twins with this now too. I’m loving the pro mix hp. Makes life easy. The youngins have been much easier to deal with.

 

[Amy Gardner]

I built my own promix for the DBHBB standard kit that i’m using in my pots. Got the amount of CaC03 a bit low the first time, adjusted and it’s been good since (the White Widow likes it).

FFOF is organic:
Ocean Forest® is a powerhouse blend of aged forest products, sphagnum peat moss, earthworm castings, bat guano, fish emulsion, and crab meal.

So it's got nutes in it already. Osmocote+ has this on their website:
Osmocote® uses a proprietary biodegradable resin-coating to encapsulate a nutritional prill. We call the coated prill a granule. Each homogeneous prill contains a thoughtfully blended mix of nitrogen, phosphorous and potassium, the fundamentals of all living things. The resin-coating is made from linseed oil and is unique because the nutrition passes from the prill through the coating by the natural phenomonon of osmosis. As the plant’s root system takes-up nutrition from the soil, Osmocote® meters-out replacements, and at the rate. Plant feeding and the release of nutrients from the Osmocote® granule are both triggered by soil temperature and the presence of moisture. Feeding and replenishment are in nautral harmony.

LOL on the natural harmony (not to mention the misspelling)!

Here is how they answer the organic question:
The ingredients in this product are as natural as the first 92 elements in the periodic table. A plant does not distinguish between nitrogen from chicken manure versus nitrogen from natural gas. Nitrogen is nitrogen. Nitrogen from Osmocote® has limited leeching, even after it is exposed to heavy rainfall or overwatering.

I'm sure I've read other growers say that plants can't tell organic nutrients from synthetic ones as well.

Thanks shed! Language in product descriptions is a constant source of entertainment

When I talk/ask about organic it’s usually because of 2 things - how something is made/produced and how it effects the microbial life in the soil. I think osmocote is fairly good in both those departments, certainly ok for the soil life AFAIK. Doc did a whole lot of work woth it durin his R&D for the HBB kit.

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High L’Head

It’s true it can be done - it’s not always possible tho. I’m finding with just about everything I’m ending up just spending the $$ to get ready-made because I just don’t have the capacity to DIY. For me it’s disability, but for others its sometimes just because they’re too busy (work life etc)! It’s a rare and special thing when you have the capacity and the time/space to do it that way. Kudos

Speaking of such things - I’ve decided I need a proper exhaust fan on the tent. The absolute winners are the AC Infinity Cloudline series. I’m looking at a T4. Living here downunder makes things like this very tough. There is one Australian distributor who is overpriced and out of stock.

I can buy it direct from ACInfinty and it will cost me USD $119 +$95 shopping. That works out to about AUD $300. The Australian distributor charges AUD $430. Makes it hard to keep the purchase in the country. AC Infinity will honour warranty internationally if I buy from them and I can purchase a replacement power pack here for pretty cheap.

Some folks will remember that I did make my own using computer fans. It worked fine, great even, but didn’t make it past the end of one grow and I’m not up to wrangling it into another version - besides, my hands wouldn’t be able to anymore. Plus, using the voltage switching power pack to control the speed makes it louder at slower speeds. The Cloudline series uses PWM (pulse width modulation) so noise is controlled at very low fan speeds and it has a super controller that I can set temp and (maybe or) humidity adn let it regulate things for me . It’s also a very beautiful piece of tech and I’ve always been a sucker for matte black stylish tech accessories - how can I not get one!? A bit of saving has to happen, and maybe a small loan, but I believe it will be worth it and it will handle a bigger area if I ever get to upgrading my indoor space. Sometimes you jus’ gottsta pay (maybe after this i can buy some new clothes instead of grow equipment! )

 

[LaquerHead]

... Hi Amy I just really want to inform people of a very simple approach to organics...rocks and compost is all a person needs! Its insanely simple, I haven't the slightest idea why it took everyone (the long time organic heads) so long to figure out! You seriously can't beat a 4 ingredient mix (if so let me know). I suppose people like to over complicate things though...including me!

Everyone is always trying to find the simplest version of things...and I'm about the least invested a person growing weed could be lol...and it works for me! So well in fact, I cant help but to try and get everyone to give it a shot...just once!

You're right though, mixing is a big downside! It also requires at very minimum 10 gallons of soil, 15 would be perfect though...and I definitely understand that can be a bit hard to tote around! Thats really the killer there...15+ gallons gets to be hard to deal with...figure that out though - and your golden!

I'm honestly mind blown by its simplicity...it seems a hidden gem no-one knows about, hopefully I can help to change that

 

[LaquerHead]

That cloudline series is defintely going in my new, revamped grow room I've been eyeing that thing for a minute...and its absolutely gorgeous

 

[Agemon]

That cloudline series is defintely going in my new, revamped grow room I've been eyeing that thing for a minute...and its absolutely gorgeous

I have one of the 6" Cloudline Fans. It's nice, dumps cool air into the tent, I got the one with the programmer. I just leave it full all the time but you can set low's n high's for the fan to turn on and off. You can even set the fan speed!

 

[Amy Gardner]

I just really want to inform people of a very simple approach to organics...rocks and compost is all a person needs! Its insanely simple, I haven't the slightest idea why it took everyone (the long time organic heads) so long to figure out! You seriously can't beat a 4 ingredient mix (if so let me know). I suppose people like to over complicate things though...including me!

That cloudline series is defintely going in my new, revamped grow room I've been eyeing that thing for a minute...and its absolutely gorgeous

 

[Amy Gardner]

Hey L’Head (@LaquerHead ) is today your first visit here? If so, then to the garden my good friend - if not, then... welcome again!

In either case I’m very pleased to have you here

 

[LaquerHead]

Welcome again lol...pleasure to be here. I love seeing the beauty of the outdoors you always happen to catch! And as always, the awesome info being shared around your place...always eager to learn

 

[Amy Gardner]

eager to learn

Well you give plenty as well!

A weird glitch Ive noticed yesterday and today - usually when you search in a thread for just a username you get all the posts by that user in that thread, right? SO if i search for either LaquerHead or Agemon it gives me no results. And that was just now after both have posted here in the last 24 hrs. Others come up ok. I wonder what the glitch is - dont have the energy to report it. I will do so at later time if it happens again i guess. Can anyone else reproduce this?

 

[LaquerHead]

that has the potential to make me paranoid

 

[Archiweedies]

ow much Osmocote+ do you think I would need with ProMix in a 7g pot?

The directions say two caps full worked into the top 1-3” of soil for indoor plants if I’m not mistaken. I only put a capful in my plants I’ve grown cause the autoflower were in 2 gallons and the current Bedroom Cookies (Mom Edition) are in three gallon.

Does the FF have other ‘stuff’ in it? Why is it not organic - I thought osmocote+ was

Cheap cheap cheap fillers! Build your own ffof for half the cost

He’s right AG it is basically junk from the ‘forest floor’ lol. Shed, ProMix with just Osmocote would work. The FFOF runs out of steam about 30 days or so and that’s when I topdressed with OC+. You could work it in and then upcan from a solo and you’d be off and running. OC+ has a ‘won’t burn your plants’ guarantee and from what I can tell it’s true. The plants take what they need and don’t get overfed.

I'm a ProMix HP grower. Farside just built his own ProMix version here.

See above reply cause if I hit this backspace bar... oh I could’ve already hit it...

... Hi Amy I just really want to inform people of a very simple approach to organics...rocks and compost is all a person needs! Its insanely simple, I haven't the slightest idea why it took everyone (the long time organic heads) so long to figure out! You seriously can't beat a 4 ingredient mix (if so let me know). I suppose people like to over complicate things though...including me!

Everyone is always trying to find the simplest version of things...and I'm about the least invested a person growing weed could be lol...and it works for me! So well in fact, I cant help but to try and get everyone to give it a shot...just once!

You're right though, mixing is a big downside! It also requires at very minimum 10 gallons of soil, 15 would be perfect though...and I definitely understand that can be a bit hard to tote around! Thats really the killer there...15+ gallons gets to be hard to deal with...figure that out though - and your golden!

I'm honestly mind blown by its simplicity...it seems a hidden gem no-one knows about, hopefully I can help to change that

Can you pm me that recipe? I’m not ready to change but I’m too intrigued not to see what’s up.
Simplicity found its way in my tent with a bag of potting soil (I’ve tested FFOF and Mother Earth so far) and a bottle of OC+. Nothing else but RO water of the non-ph’ed variety. No teas, no stinky fish smells.
I do have a plant in this soil and I have a cut of that plant growing in Doc Buds HB soil. For me, this will be as close to a comparison as I’ll get. They are in different size containers and I like larger containers too much to likely do this test again. I’m afraid only bud quality and effects will be able to be compared.