OttawaGreen
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How's the Hollands hope clones? PC clone should be ready to go soon.
A Video Journal With Pigeons420 - 2016
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Yet another great video from our beloved Pigeon
One thing about the trichomes coming off during the wash cycle, the 1st time I tried it, I washed them in the extra heavy duty cycle and swirled and dipped them in and out for about a minute per branch, my own fault, should have watched an informative video like yours "before"I jumped in with both feet. After I was done the bottoms of the buckets were all shiny and covered with Trichomes. Yep I know for a fact that it was because I scraped it into a metal spoon then put the flame to it. Smelled just like hash as it bubbled. Even with going crazy on my wash, I have had nothing but praises from everyone who has smoked any of it and they all said that it was top shelf quality. Now when I wash my buds I do it more as you do, a gentle cycle with 3 to 4 buckets.
I just want you to know that your videos are very helpful and while the information is here on the 420 site, it is much easier to learn when you actually watch someone doing it in real time. Wish you had made your video on bud washing before I did my 1st bud washing
Keep em coming my Canadian friend
Oh and hopefully some day you will be like me and not afraid to show your face to the community because all this silliness about MJ will be long gone. Thanking God for living in a legal state
Thanks My man!
Well it's interesting to know that you can abuse the weed that much during the wash and get great results. I really didn't have any doubt although it's always in the back of my head that I loose some trichomes during the process. But the weed has been fantastic every single time.
I really appreciate your comments man! When I mention in my videos that I love the support and comments, you're exactly who I'm thinking about. Thank you!
As for showing my face, I can't wait! But I need to remember that although I'm in a very liberal country, people aren't always that forward thinking.
I'm currently working my ass off for law school, I spend at least 20 hours a week coaching, managing and teaching our children (for free) I help around my community as much as I can, but what's sad is that all of that would be quickly forgotten if my life was put under a microscope for people to see. And all I do is grow dope! Haha what a world we live when our private lives dictate who we are. We all have demons and most people are worse than being a gardener
. I can't wait to be a full fledged advocate for the things I love but unfortunately I can't afford to give up everything...yet.
Much love to you old man! Know that you're loved and much respected!
Still surviving. I think their a bit slow to get going but still showing good signs of life!
Did you see the harvest video?
Frenchy672
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before I even started growing I've collected my stems and made tea with them it's so good!
it's so good!
Noob4x4grow
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before I even started growing I've collected my stems and made tea with them
What is the effect Frenchy?
Noob4x4grow
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Thanks My man!
Well it's interesting to know that you can abuse the weed that much during the wash and get great results. I really didn't have any doubt although it's always in the back of my head that I loose some trichomes during the process. But the weed has been fantastic every single time.
I really appreciate your comments man! When I mention in my videos that I love the support and comments, you're exactly who I'm thinking about. Thank you!
As for showing my face, I can't wait! But I need to remember that although I'm in a very liberal country, people aren't always that forward thinking.
I'm currently working my ass off for law school, I spend at least 20 hours a week coaching, managing and teaching our children (for free) I help around my community as much as I can, but what's sad is that all of that would be quickly forgotten if my life was put under a microscope for people to see. And all I do is grow dope! Haha what a world we live when our private lives dictate who we are. We all have demons and most people are worse than being a gardener
I can't wait to be a full fledged advocate for the things I love but unfortunately I can't afford to give up everything...yet.
Much love to you old man! Know that you're loved and much respected!
Still surviving. I think their a bit slow to get going but still showing good signs of life!
Did you see the harvest video?
As a stay at home dad who also works from home, I too understand your dilemma. I live in a legal state and I treat my grow as if I'm in Texas. I know there are people out there that would judge me, (they already judge me for my size and tattoos). I don't want that to effect my son in any way. On one hand, if a parent doesn't want their kid hanging out with mine because I have tattoos or whatever, I wouldn't want him hanging with that kid anyways. But, if it is because I grow medicine for myself and another patient, that's obtuse thinking in my mind. Sadly, there are a LOT of people who react exactly as described above. So, I get it brother.
Keep bringing the great info to us Pigeon. We love you man!
Frenchy672
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I'd have to say it's very similar to edibles...you can make it strong or weak. Take all your stems/trimmings, get a tea bag and empty it out. get about a tbsp of butter and put it in with the stems. get another tea bag, one with a flavor you wanna drink and steep it in with the stems.
It's a very mellow calming high but yet you still feel all warm and nice or you can make it slightly more intense. Some people like using a little bit of bud or trimmings. They have slightly more thc content so it helps to use that to make a stronger tea. Awesome nighttime drink to just sip and sit....barely taste the weed honestly.
People add butter to coffee/tea rather than cream/sugar. but you need to add it so the thc has fat to attach to. More fat=more thc content you can extract. so the best butter around is coconut, but I really only use that for baking. I'd stick with normal butter for tea unless you want a stronger tea
OttawaGreen
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Just watched both. Looks great! Nice videos. I'm super busy, more time tomorrow to post
I'd have to say it's very similar to edibles...you can make it strong or weak. Take all your stems/trimmings, get a tea bag and empty it out. get about a tbsp of butter and put it in with the stems. get another tea bag, one with a flavor you wanna drink and steep it in with the stems.
It's a very mellow calming high but yet you still feel all warm and nice or you can make it slightly more intense. Some people like using a little bit of bud or trimmings. They have slightly more thc content so it helps to use that to make a stronger tea. Awesome nighttime drink to just sip and sit....barely taste the weed honestly.
People add butter to coffee/tea rather than cream/sugar. but you need to add it so the thc has fat to attach to. More fat=more thc content you can extract. so the best butter around is coconut, but I really only use that for baking. I'd stick with normal butter for tea unless you want a stronger tea
Thank you for this Frenchy. It didn't occur to me to use another teabag to flavor the stem tea. Reps for that one. The cocoa butter is a medium-chained fatty acid. That means the cannabinoids will bond to it and be dragged through the liver in a first pass, so the THC gets quickly metabolized, adding the high to the tea. I'd recommend the cocoa butter. It works better as a carrier than butter does. Unless you have cannabutter, which is more often used to make bullet coffee than tea.
I've tried the stem tea, and was pleasantly surprised. I haven't tried it as a bedtime tea though, and I'm attempting to regulate sleep patterns, so I may give this a try.
I suppose I could tape the phone to my forehead!
Yeah, this one laid me out.
I'm three videos back and wide awake at 4:30 AM (fell asleep at 9PM - won't make that mistake again
) and I understand I need to take two to make up for your oversight in the budwashing, so let me get the bong and something to smoke and start my day blazed the Pigeon's way. 
Good morning my favorite Birdman.
OttawaGreen
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Videos were great pigeons! I am happy your jackalope harvested though it looks like a lanky pheno maybe one of the others will be shorter and tighter. I hope it smokes well too. For the washing looking good but have you considered washing the whole plant? Much faster. I do mine whole unless I am reveging then I do branches as much as I have to, to leave a reveg stump. I use 63L (16.6 gallon) Rubbermaid containers for washing and they can do even big whole plants. Though they do touch the sides ;-)
Thoughts on the videos:
To begin with, you're doing an exemplary job on these videos Pigeons. I don't think you fully appreciate the tutorial you're creating that demonstrates the particulars of the day-to-day running of a successful grow, or the true value of such a resource for someone just coming into this obsessive hobby/med adventure we share.
Your hands are wonderfully expressive.
Flushing video: (I watched this one last because I don't flush, and then learned the most from it.)
- OK, you convinced me. I'll let the Dark Devil Auto go another week at least and re-evaluate. See how valuable these videos are?
- I always write the breeder's suggested times down at the beginning of the grow and then forget where I put it. That's how much it matters to me. My current Dark Devil Auto is on Day 87 of a 65 day timeline. Lol!
- I have to say Pigeons, you did that Jackalope justice. Let me thank you for that. It's a classic demonstration of both how the plant gains from proper lighting and how one improves technique by growing a strain over again. Wasn't it PeeJay who wisely suggested doing mono cultures to gain better insight into a strain? I've watched a few, Icemud immediately jumps to mind, and they certainly are exciting in their own way. I personally like the variety of a mixed brood.
- Excellent discription of the foxtail. There were so many reasons in these three videos to give you reps. I can't tell you how proud I'm feeling right now.
- It's good to see I'm not the only person who has to fight the urge to lick her plants.
- I just figured it out. You flush to get the salts out of the medium so that the plant won't be pulling those salts into the tissues in the final week of growth. Your assumption is that all the previously absorbed salts will have been metabolized by the plant's systems so that what you're smoking is plant and not salts. Salts pollute the flavor and medicinal nature of the end product.
Did I get that right? This is something that's always confused me because you're flushing the soil, and the plant absorb, so how could flushing get rid of salts in the plant? Organic gardener here, using no-tills nonetheless I'm so lazy.
- I would think they'd drain more efficiently if you set the pots on these.
Prep video:
- Every inch of the plant that rises above the ground is covered in trichomes. There are a variety of different trichome forms, and the stems and fans have more of the flat, one cell high variety. When I make CCO I'm sure to include both fans and stem in proportion because there're cannabinoids on those plant parts that you won't get from the buds alone.
- Thank you for using "cannabis". That's the point that wins you the reps +. Marajuana was a name created by my government to vilify this plant and generate disrespect towards the Latinos. We should dispense with the name once and for all. It's tragic that the country chose to refer to the laws as "MMJ" statutes, and I sometimes wonder if that wasn't orchestrated in an attempt to make the transition more difficult and dragged out then it need be, based on the medical evidence alone.
The sooner we stop playing along with them and begin to refer to this wonderfully beneficial plant by its true name the sooner we can move this dialogue along, IMHO.
Harvest video:
- Wonderful points about the healing aspects of the cultivation alone. I've grown other plants and they were rewarding, but not like these plants. I understand that a good part of that is the benefits of the harvest, but it goes beyond that. It may be the explosive growth that catches us. Within such a short period of time they hold our attention almost continuously. I'm not the only cultivator in the room guilty of spending time just staring or exploring in close detail these charges I'm caring for.
The hobby is much more than plant and harvest, isn't it? You're blessed to have friends and family you can share this passion with.
- I eat stray trim all the time too. Lol! Another gardening trait we share. Haha!
- Hugs to BeardedBudz (was this who helped you out?) for doing the video so you could properly demonstrate this valuable step in the processing of our meds. This is something you'll be taking into your body, so cleaning it is suggested. I can't give you any more reps today so I'll find a post of his and give these to him. Ok?
- I've taken to cutting the stems down to size so that they fit the dimensions of the bucket better. It takes longer, but I feel I have more control and I'm even more gentle with the swishing when I work with smaller pieces. I discovered this while growing the taster garden last year. All of those were short colas, under 12" - 14" for the most part, and they were so easy to process I couldn't believe it.
- I can hear you becoming more in tune with the universe. Lol!
I just spent the better part of the past two hours watching these videos. This was a delightful way to bring in the morning and the buzz is pretty good too. I lost count about 45 minutes ago. That first buzz of the morning is always the best, eh?
Time for a shower. I guess I can hold off on the brownie for a while. I love a combustion high, but they wear off too quickly. My bio bomb brownies carry me for five hours before they taper off. Yep, five hours without fail. Quite a feat for someone with my tolerance level.
I've taken up a lot of your page space here this morning Pigeons. It was great spending so much time here. Maybe falling asleep early wasn't such a bad thing after all. MUAH!!!
The sun just came up. You got me through the darkest hours right before dawn. That's almost poetic, given our personal history.
To begin with, you're doing an exemplary job on these videos Pigeons. I don't think you fully appreciate the tutorial you're creating that demonstrates the particulars of the day-to-day running of a successful grow, or the true value of such a resource for someone just coming into this obsessive hobby/med adventure we share.
Your hands are wonderfully expressive.
Flushing video: (I watched this one last because I don't flush, and then learned the most from it.
)- OK, you convinced me. I'll let the Dark Devil Auto go another week at least and re-evaluate. See how valuable these videos are?
-
I always write the breeder's suggested times down at the beginning of the grow and then forget where I put it. That's how much it matters to me. My current Dark Devil Auto is on Day 87 of a 65 day timeline. Lol!- I have to say Pigeons, you did that Jackalope justice. Let me thank you for that. It's a classic demonstration of both how the plant gains from proper lighting and how one improves technique by growing a strain over again. Wasn't it PeeJay who wisely suggested doing mono cultures to gain better insight into a strain? I've watched a few, Icemud immediately jumps to mind, and they certainly are exciting in their own way. I personally like the variety of a mixed brood.
- Excellent discription of the foxtail. There were so many reasons in these three videos to give you reps. I can't tell you how proud I'm feeling right now.
- It's good to see I'm not the only person who has to fight the urge to lick her plants.
- I just figured it out. You flush to get the salts out of the medium so that the plant won't be pulling those salts into the tissues in the final week of growth. Your assumption is that all the previously absorbed salts will have been metabolized by the plant's systems so that what you're smoking is plant and not salts. Salts pollute the flavor and medicinal nature of the end product.
Did I get that right? This is something that's always confused me because you're flushing the soil, and the plant absorb, so how could flushing get rid of salts in the plant? Organic gardener here, using no-tills nonetheless I'm so lazy.
- I would think they'd drain more efficiently if you set the pots on these.
Prep video:
- Every inch of the plant that rises above the ground is covered in trichomes. There are a variety of different trichome forms, and the stems and fans have more of the flat, one cell high variety. When I make CCO I'm sure to include both fans and stem in proportion because there're cannabinoids on those plant parts that you won't get from the buds alone.
- Thank you for using "cannabis". That's the point that wins you the reps +. Marajuana was a name created by my government to vilify this plant and generate disrespect towards the Latinos. We should dispense with the name once and for all. It's tragic that the country chose to refer to the laws as "MMJ" statutes, and I sometimes wonder if that wasn't orchestrated in an attempt to make the transition more difficult and dragged out then it need be, based on the medical evidence alone.
The sooner we stop playing along with them and begin to refer to this wonderfully beneficial plant by its true name the sooner we can move this dialogue along, IMHO.
Harvest video:
- Wonderful points about the healing aspects of the cultivation alone. I've grown other plants and they were rewarding, but not like these plants. I understand that a good part of that is the benefits of the harvest, but it goes beyond that. It may be the explosive growth that catches us. Within such a short period of time they hold our attention almost continuously. I'm not the only cultivator in the room guilty of spending time just staring or exploring in close detail these charges I'm caring for.
The hobby is much more than plant and harvest, isn't it? You're blessed to have friends and family you can share this passion with.
-
I eat stray trim all the time too. Lol! Another gardening trait we share. Haha! - Hugs to BeardedBudz (was this who helped you out?) for doing the video so you could properly demonstrate this valuable step in the processing of our meds.
This is something you'll be taking into your body, so cleaning it is suggested. I can't give you any more reps today so I'll find a post of his and give these to him. Ok? - I've taken to cutting the stems down to size so that they fit the dimensions of the bucket better. It takes longer, but I feel I have more control and I'm even more gentle with the swishing when I work with smaller pieces. I discovered this while growing the taster garden last year. All of those were short colas, under 12" - 14" for the most part, and they were so easy to process I couldn't believe it.
-
I can hear you becoming more in tune with the universe. Lol!I just spent the better part of the past two hours watching these videos. This was a delightful way to bring in the morning and the buzz is pretty good too.
I lost count about 45 minutes ago. That first buzz of the morning is always the best, eh? Time for a shower. I guess I can hold off on the brownie for a while. I love a combustion high, but they wear off too quickly. My bio bomb brownies carry me for five hours before they taper off. Yep, five hours without fail. Quite a feat for someone with my tolerance level.
I've taken up a lot of your page space here this morning Pigeons. It was great spending so much time here. Maybe falling asleep early wasn't such a bad thing after all.
MUAH!!! The sun just came up. You got me through the darkest hours right before dawn. That's almost poetic, given our personal history.
I was considering, while watching him wash, a system of three buckets set up on a platform so that you could cut the main stem at the soil line and then dip and swirl each branch individually while still attached. I've been smoking now for over two hours, so I haven't thought it completely through, but it might be workable with branches the right length.
I'd thought of the larger totes too. Do you do three of them side by side? That's a lot of water.
Frenchy672
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Understandably coconut butter has more saturated fats then normal stick butter. Depending on if it's a morning/ afternoon/ night drink, I would use a combo of different butter/trimmings [morning or afternoon tea = regular butter with more sugar leafs/popcorn then stems] and night time [coconut butter with only stems]...AND...if you want more then that, then start adding more trimmings/more coconut.
Its absolutely amazing with apple caramel tea. I love my vanilla sleepy time tea at night
OttawaGreen
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Yes three side by side at about 50L water each
Thoughts on the videos:
To begin with, you're doing an exemplary job on these videos Pigeons. I don't think you fully appreciate the tutorial you're creating that demonstrates the particulars of the day-to-day running of a successful grow, or the true value of such a resource for someone just coming into this obsessive hobby/med adventure we share.
Your hands are wonderfully expressive.
Flushing video: (I watched this one last because I don't flush, and then learned the most from it.
- I just figured it out. You flush to get the salts out of the medium so that the plant won't be pulling those salts into the tissues in the final week of growth. Your assumption is that all the previously absorbed salts will have been metabolized by the plant's systems so that what you're smoking is plant and not salts. Salts pollute the flavor and medicinal nature of the end product.
Did I get that right? This is something that's always confused me because you're flushing the soil, and the plant absorb, so how could flushing get rid of salts in the plant? Organic gardener here, using no-tills nonetheless I'm so lazy.
- I would think they'd drain more efficiently if you set the pots on these.
I completely agree with you Sue, he does a wonderful job with his videos and not only are they very informative, they are very enjoyable to watch as well.
On the flush concept, I believe that the object is to remove all the nutrients from the soil so that the plant can not absorb any new nutrients and will be forced to use up the nutrients it already has absorbed into its system.Once those are used up, there is nothing left for them to absorb because they have all (or at least the majority of them) have been flushed out of the pot. I think of it like a hydro grow, when you feed your plants with soil it is the same as you adding nutrients to your hydro. If you take a hydro system and do not add Nutrients for 2 weeks and started out with nothing more then RO water in the system, the plant would be forced to use up any stored nutrients in its system to stay alive. The more it consumes the less inside the plant since it has no where to replace those nutrients. It is basically the same concept with soil, deplete the nutrients in the soil and force the plant to consume any reserves it has to stay alive. If you continued to grow and did not chop the plant for harvest, it would eventually die because it has a limited reserve of nutrients in its system to pull from.
I am sure there are more technical ways to explain the process but I am not a technical kind of guy, I like it real simple.
I completely agree with you Sue, he does a wonderful job with his videos and not only are they very informative, they are very enjoyable to watch as well.
On the flush concept, I believe that the object is to remove all the nutrients from the soil so that the plant can not absorb any new nutrients and will be forced to use up the nutrients it already has absorbed into its system.Once those are used up, there is nothing left for them to absorb because they have all (or at least the majority of them) have been flushed out of the pot. I think of it like a hydro grow, when you feed your plants with soil it is the same as you adding nutrients to your hydro. If you take a hydro system and do not add Nutrients for 2 weeks and started out with nothing more then RO water in the system, the plant would be forced to use up any stored nutrients in its system to stay alive. The more it consumes the less inside the plant since it has no where to replace those nutrients. It is basically the same concept with soil, deplete the nutrients in the soil and force the plant to consume any reserves it has to stay alive. If you continued to grow and did not chop the plant for harvest, it would eventually die because it has a limited reserve of nutrients in its system to pull from.
I am sure there are more technical ways to explain the process but I am not a technical kind of guy, I like it real simple.
Thank you OG. That was a wonderful explaination. I grow in no-tills, so the nutrients are continually replenished. I'm totally lost when everyone starts talking deficiencies. As long as I stay true to my drench schedule I don't ever have to worry about nutrient stores in my soil. My soil grows the plant for me. I feed the soil.
Understandably coconut butter has more saturated fats then normal stick butter. Depending on if it's a morning/ afternoon/ night drink, I would use a combo of different butter/trimmings [morning or afternoon tea = regular butter with more sugar leafs/popcorn then stems] and night time [coconut butter with only stems]...AND...if you want more then that, then start adding more trimmings/more coconut.
Its absolutely amazing with apple caramel tea. I love my vanilla sleepy time tea at night
Oooo.... Apple caramel sounds delicious. I use a caramel brownie mix for my regular meds and I find the caramel to be a perfect compliment to the cannabis taste.
You must work with a nearby drain, or do you siphon the water out?
OttawaGreen
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I just use a normal pail to fill it up and drain it. Three buckets mostly full to fill each one. To empty dip
the pail in and take out a couple buckets of water then the tote is light enough to lift to get rest. Sink is about 20 feet away from where I work so dont have to go far. Could use a hose to fill and small pump to drain if you prefer, but buckets is easy enough.