A Base Treatment Regimen For Cancer

Amanita said:
Hello Sue,
I am planning to make the CBD oil myself, it will be my 1st attempt at making it. Looking at using ACDC.
The oil I have been using so far (described in a previous post) is from an online source I found that is deeply committed to RSO philosophy and methods. All their oils are individually tested by BudGenius. (i don't what the rules/protocols are about referrals). I believe their methods are good, but not exactly what I would prefer.
Ideally I would like to find a consistent and reliable source of medicine.
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Good, glad to hear this. There's great peace of mind in being in charge of the process yourself. Good luck with your first run. Be safe. We recently had a member injured, so make sure you vent those fumes or work outdoors. He's ok, but is was a frightening wake-up call.
 
Amanita said:
Hello Sue,
I am planning to make the CBD oil myself, it will be my 1st attempt at making it. Looking at using ACDC.
The oil I have been using so far (described in a previous post) is from an online source I found that is deeply committed to RSO philosophy and methods. All their oils are individually tested by BudGenius. (i don't what the rules/protocols are about referrals). I believe their methods are good, but not exactly what I would prefer.
Ideally I would like to find a consistent and reliable source of medicine.
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Out of curiosity, why just CBD oil?
Good luck with making it. You'll catch on fast. After the first few, you'll be knocking it out comfortably.
The biggest safety issue by far is Sammy open flame source nearby (gas stove).
 
cajuncelt said:
Out of curiosity, why just CBD oil?
Good luck with making it. You'll catch on fast. After the first few, you'll be knocking it out comfortably.
The biggest safety issue by far is Sammy open flame source nearby (gas stove).
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Please be very cautious about this. We recently had a member burned, and we want no repeats.
 
It's a pain when you catch them too late, isn't it? Hahaha!
 
Made my first batch of BioBombs last weekend. The amount of dilution of CO in recipe didn't make sense to me until I starting filling capsules and calculated mg/capsule. Now it seems obvious, but I was so fixated on dosing with grain of rice that I couldn't visualize the end product. Also been thinking in terms of total daily dose and not 5x/day dose. Kept reworking it in my head trying to make sense of ratios, finally just went for it as written (mostly). Should have known it would work out, (but I do have precedents with similar instructions where math didn't work out and I actually did need to make corrections).

As I understand the basic recipe:

The 1:20 ratio of CO to flax seed oil is flexible to adjust potency of biobombs. I increased ratio to 6:15 keeping same volume of 21 gr. plus a few drops of alcohol. Several times I've read of adjusting the potency to 1:10 or 1:5. I assume that means increasing CO and not just reducing oil, because that would max out potency at 20 mg/capsule which isn't nearly high enough to treat cancer.
The 3:1 Tbsp of carrier oil and lecithin is the bioavailability carrier and is fixed for total volume of 81 ml.

I ended up with a little over 81 ml that filled 90 "00" capsules with 67 mg of CO per capsule = 333 mg/day.
I will gradually increase the CO ratio to 18:3 ml, which will equal 200 mg/capsule, 1 g/day.

I hope this clarifies the process for others like me that overthink things.

And if I'm wrong please jump in, as always. Thanks. :Namaste:
 
Hi all, well for the second year in a row I've somehow buggered up my dosing (or something else that I'm not aware of) and my PSA has jumped from 7.05 to 31 in a month, despite a gram per day of CCO.

I started on August 1st (Post #917, PSA 9.5) and had a PSA test on Sept 1st (Post #973) and my PSA had dropped minimally to 7.05. This was encouraging, but now it's up to 31, 4 weeks later, and I haven't changed anything that I'm aware of. I've been an hour or so late on some of my dosings but have always got 1 gram into myself per day. My urologist wants me to go back onto the hormone injections to get the PSA back to single figures.

Disheartening to say the least! And I don't know what to do now... I've used all my plants so there's only enough for maintenance doses until a new crop comes in.

I can:
1) Buy street cannabis
2) Invest in an indoor grow tent and grow indoors
3) Wait until next year

BUT WHAT AM I DOING WRONG THAT THIS HAS FAILED TWICE?

There is a fair deal of online evidence that solely rectal dosing will not work, and my experience would tend to bear that out. There is also evidence that it does work. I chose that route for convenience, but maybe I have to learn how to take properly OR take 3 months off and do the Rick Simpson method of just swallowing a gram a day and be stoned/asleep all the time.

I've been on green tea and mangoes, and have been popping Apigenin and Gingko Biloba before each dose of CCO.

By process of elimination it would seem that purely rectal dosing will not work for me.

Any suggestions most gratefully received!
 
I'm sorry to hear this nooby. Let's see what responses you get. Try your best to avoid feeling disheartened. You have the choice on how you react. I understand the implications here, but I want to encourage you to do your best to think of this as just feedback and nothing more. Don't give the cancer any part of control of who you are.

I don't have any answers for you myself. Others with more experience will be along shortly. Take a deep breath nooby, while we take another look. :hugs: :Love:
 
Hey Nobby.
I'm sorry to hear of your lab #'s. Just know that mine have fluctuates anywhere from 5 to in the high 70's. I'll not gonna play it cool, I freak out when my numbers get above 12 or so. But, I'm still here.
As far as the protocol you use, mix it up now. If suppositories aren't doing the trick right now then try the capsules exclusively until the next labs.
Also know that high PSA & CEA numbers can also be reflecting the DEAD cells in the blood stream well.
Lots of patients experience herxing & high labs right before the disease goes night night.
When using suppositories, all the conditions have to be fairly good.
Moisture, method, etc.
It is true that every method of dosing out there does not work for everyone for one reason or another. Unfortunately, those are the factors unavailable to mankind right now.
Try tacking, wait 15 mins, then dose orally with the best bioavailable method you can.
Try mixing up strains if/when you can as well. It could be your current strains don't contain a specific cannabinoid or terpene your disease needs.

And remember, it's nothing you're doing wrong. It's more of a matter to find what for you is right.

If dosing with my Bio Bomb, start slow so you can still function. Upping the CBD in a CBD:THC mix might help keep the euphoria down so you can stay productive.
Lower the CBD & increase the dosage as your body allows.
Also, medical doctors are not our enemy & have their part to play in our treatment. I know many who've turned their back on conventional medicine which I consider a huge mistake.
A close friend of mine has taken oral chemo (pills) along with his CCO for 12 years now & is healthy as a horse. He would've died many moons ago without the chemo & has yet to find a way to survive without it.
Hormones may be the same case for you.

Keep us posted. I will give you the address to our clinic in December. Come on out! Let's see what we see?

Be Well
 
On a side note, I met some young men today that incorporate dry ice when they're making their oil. It dropped temps to like -35°f and the oil was like honey, leased with terpenes still.
As it contains no water, this is definitely a route I'm taking from here on out.
 
Thanks for your kind replies, Sue and cajun - I'm not too stressed by the results, because I have the hormone therapy to fall back on until that ceases to be effective (apparently 3 to 5 years from treatment onset for the average bloke - it's been 5 years for me, but one patient of my doctor has been on it happily for 18 years), but I'm nonplussed and confused as to my next move.

A good friend and I are sharing the plants and the oil, and he's on the same protocol exactly, but a month behind me, so his results will be interesting to see. I'll wait and see how he fares and then come to a decision. If it works for him maybe I'll be a little wiser...

A visit to your clinic may be tricky financially, cajun, but if I can do it I'd love to see what you're up to!

So, I'm a bit calmer now, and thankfully it's not a life and death situation yet, so maybe it'll be third time lucky for me down the road apiece.

Cheers, Nobby
 
cajuncelt said:
On a side note, I met some young men today that incorporate dry ice when they're making their oil. It dropped temps to like -35°f and the oil was like honey, leased with terpenes still.
As it contains no water, this is definitely a route I'm taking from here on out.
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Well this was intriguing. Care to share any particulars? Just exactly how are they using the dry ice?
 
Nobby,

I am not sure of all your history here but for my PCa treatment I found the information in "The China Study" about meat/animal protein consumption very helpful. In a nut shell it is now medical and scientific proof that consumption of high levels (20% + of diet) of animal proteins feeds cancer and low levels (less than 5%) turns off cancer, in the mice they used. The China Study info is available in book form and in the Netflix video "Forks over Knives".

Keep up the Good Fight!!
 
SweetSue said:
Well this was intriguing. Care to share any particulars? Just exactly how are they using the dry ice?
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Hey Sue , did you ever find any info on the dry ice method? this is very interesting to me. Especially when cajun stated the oil being like honey which i recently realized when having my temps around -25. The colder the temp the purer the oil IMO.
 
panacea said:
Hey Sue , did you ever find any info on the dry ice method? this is very interesting to me. Especially when cajun stated the oil being like honey which i recently realized when having my temps around -25. The colder the temp the purer the oil IMO.
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I haven't had the time to go tracking yet panacea. I've seen one person on line using dry ice and water together with the bud material tossed into that, but they never loaded in the video that shows the end result, which makes the process questionable. I can see how this could be effective. ShiggityFlip had the idea of using a brine bath to drop temperatures, but the dry ice would be much colder, I'd think.

Yeah, we need to figure out how to make this happen.

Major PITA recently posted a technique for dry hash that only requires you to freeze the material ahead of time. He and Majic Jim got some decent results with that. I'll be exploring this too, as soon as I have a harvest to support it.
 
SweetSue said:
I haven't had the time to go tracking yet panacea. I've seen one person on line using dry ice and water together with the bud material tossed into that, but they never loaded in the video that shows the end result, which makes the process questionable. I can see how this could be effective. ShiggityFlip had the idea of using a brine bath to drop temperatures, but the dry ice would be much colder, I'd think.

Yeah, we need to figure out how to make this happen.

Major PITA recently posted a technique for dry hash that only requires you to freeze the material ahead of time. He and Majic Jim got some decent results with that. I'll be exploring this too, as soon as I have a harvest to support it.
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I used Dry ice to make hash with bubble bags. There are several videos showing how it works on Youtube. :circle-of-love::peace:
 
supergroomer said:
I used Dry ice to make hash with bubble bags. There are several videos showing how it works on Youtube. :circle-of-love::peace:
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Cajun's talking about using it to make oil. I'm interested in the particulars of this technique. I can see how using dry ice for hash and then converting the hash to oil would work. Have you tried this supergroomer? How did you utilize the hash you made?
 
SweetSue said:
Cajun's talking about using it to make oil. I'm interested in the particulars of this technique. I can see how using dry ice for hash and then converting the hash to oil would work. Have you tried this supergroomer? How did you utilize the hash you made?
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I just experimented with it once. I took a bunch of trim (probably 2 oz or so) but it in a 5 gallon bucket with a bunch of broken up pieces of dry ice. Let it sit for a minute or two. Then put your bubble bag over the top of the bucket. Flip it over over a large piece of glass (a large framed picture works well) and start shaking the crap out of it. The kief comes off in piles. Here is a video (not mine) that shows how to do it.

Put in Work w/Trychome Champ - How to Make Dry Ice Hash - YouTube :circle-of-love::peace:
 
supergroomer said:
I just experimented with it once. I took a bunch of trim (probably 2 oz or so) but it in a 5 gallon bucket with a bunch of broken up pieces of dry ice. Let it sit for a minute or two. Then put your bubble bag over the top of the bucket. Flip it over over a large piece of glass (a large framed picture works well) and start shaking the crap out of it. The kief comes off in piles. Here is a video (not mine) that shows how to do it.

Put in Work w/Trychome Champ - How to Make Dry Ice Hash - YouTube :circle-of-love::peace:
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Ooooo...... I just realized I have the perfect piece of glass. I knew there was a reason I kept this one.

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So, what did you do with the hash you made?
 
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