No distraction. I’ve been reluctant to bump my DLI but reading your comments and the comments from @West Hippie, I’ve upped the output of my light more than I would have. Some parts of the canopy will get a DLI of 46. Not as high as you folks are going but my plants are stable for the first time since they got in the res and I don’t want to upset the apple cart.
You gotta go where you're comfortable, not just for the plants but for you. I get it. I didn't begin like this. It took me a while to realize what they can take and actually thirst for. Try using your app on the sun sometime. I can use Phototone to measure actual sunlight, it has a setting for that (the only one that isn't $5 to open, lol). The par is so high it's off the charts, ie, can't be measured by the app. It just says >3000. Lmao. But that sort of got me thinking about it so I did a bunch of research and have now come to this. My autos in the outdoor rig in my outdoor journal are under a 420h and 2 blurples. Almost 900 watts raining on them. They're at about 1250 cuz the Gelato is taller by far than the others. They don't show any signs of anything but loving it. I even let my seeds sprout into a lot of light. Like 400 par. They love it. Just sayin, for what it's worth.No distraction. I’ve been reluctant to bump my DLI but reading your comments and the comments from @West Hippie, I’ve upped the output of my light more than I would have. Some parts of the canopy will get a DLI of 46. Not as high as you folks are going but my plants are stable for the first time since they got in the res and I don’t want to upset the apple cart.
"OK, where’s the dimmer switch?”
Agree. That’s that “experience" thing. It will be interesting to see how the plants to at higher light levels but there’s also the fact that I’m not using CO2 so I can’t get the max out of the set up. OTOH, I live in Orange County SoCal so I’ll bet that CO2 is a higher here than in most places.
Just did that. It’s reading 1630 - early November and 3:30 PM so there’s plenty of PAR. Wish I could pipe it into my garage. The MQ-500 sensor it good to 4000µmols according to their website. That’s high noon on a clear summer day in Yuma.
Thanks for the info. I’ll see how things are going in the AM.
Interesting how our almost opposite end of the country geographies and the sun make a difference in our sunlight par readings. I tested mine at noon on a late summer day in SW Florida with no clouds. Maybe that's why it registered so much higher than the 1650 you get at 3:30 pm in Yuma. Kinda makes me wish I had my same outdoor grow but lived in Hawaii.
I first got dropping my 1000 watt hps from @snowbound to 10” . When the grow was over I had 940 grams of rock hard buds of 3 white widow and a dosidos that hid from the light as much as it could. And yes I took a couple hits off the dosidos and that’s enough.No distraction. I’ve been reluctant to bump my DLI but reading your comments and the comments from @West Hippie, I’ve upped the output of my light more than I would have. Some parts of the canopy will get a DLI of 46. Not as high as you folks are going but my plants are stable for the first time since they got in the res and I don’t want to upset the apple cart.
"OK, where’s the dimmer switch?”
I've been to Yuma but I'm in SoCal.
Good to hear. Dr Bugbee always talks about pouring on the light. Two pounds of primo - sounds like you nailed it!
Interesting. I'll have to measure it again tomorrow now that you say that. I got the app and it was the first thing I did, so maybe that was cuz I hadn't figured out the diffuser and all that yet. I'll check back on this post with that tomorrow cuz now you got me really curious. Thanks for the link.
Jon:
Jon:
The diffuser was what threw me. Rather than create a loop of paper, my approach was to cut off the corner of an envelope, put that piece on top of my iPhone, wrap the free end around the phone, wrap the free end of the piece of the envelope back onto the body of the envelope, and then tap the free end with electrical tape. An envelope is a 24# paper so it's slightly heavier than most people use for printing (20#).
It's easier done than said.
I also overcomplicated the crap out of it. I couldn't comprehend something as easy as "wrap a piece of paper around your lenses." It just seemed like, really, that's it? Can't be that simple and non-technological. I must be misunderstanding. Lmao.
"I also overcomplicated the crap out of it" - unlike anyone else here!
Hey it sounds like you've done a lot more research than I have on this. You say you tested Phototone and seemed to think it was okay, yet you don't use it. Do you think the one you use is more accurate? Cuz I want as accurate as possible and if you've done comparative research on these kinds of apps before settling on what you have, I suspect you have one of the best available."I also overcomplicated the crap out of it" - unlike anyone else here!
No, it's "that simple" - I've been writing software for a living for just over 30 years and thing that I've seen along the way is that one characteristic of a good app is that it's completely forgettable — it works how you want to work and lets you get things done easily.
I tested Photone back in March and it was pretty much that way. Turn it on, get the readings, and you're done. Definitely worth the price!
LMAO. I apologize for asking if you thought yours was more accurate. OMG that's so fricking funny. You have the mother of all testers. My GOD. I WISH I could afford that kind of coin for a light meter. GOOD FOR YOU MAN!!!!
Lol. That's just Apogee covering their butts. It's way more accurate than that. I know it well. Most of the test vids you see use it to test their tents. I agree 100% with Dr. Bugbee, it's by far the most important factor. Thanks for the info. I'll stop the distraction from the journal now. Sorry, I get a bit carried away talking light.
Good point about covering their butts. It's not like people aren't going to buy it because it could be 5% off.
