Gee64
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Ahhh the bittersweet taste of Victory! Its great to get to the finish line but.... Trimming sucks so bad!
Well hopefully it turns into enough to get you thru until you are trimming this round up.
4 Feminized Strains, 1 Closet, 2,200 Watt LED
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Well hopefully it turns into enough to get you thru until you are trimming this round up.
Gee64
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How do you cure John? The regular old fashioned way of hang, jar, burp? or do you use a different Top Secret style you can share with us?
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johnehazeharvester
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I do not consume too much but others in the household do. So I will be good. I will have help trimming and planning on listening to tunes and getting a bit stoned to help me through it. Plan on making some edibles after trimming and Weighing.Ahhh the bittersweet taste of Victory! Its great to get to the finish line but.... Trimming sucks so bad!
Well hopefully it turns into enough to get you thru until you are trimming this round up.
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johnehazeharvester
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This will be my first time I am planning on the old fashioned way you mentioned. If I continue to do this, I probably will buy one of those fairly expensive cannatrol machines. I am currently drying in a basement bathroom. Don't want to get too many complaints about the smell but it's not too bad. Hopefully that doesn't mean my product isn't good.
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johnehazeharvester
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I have noticed growth has halted since I topped. Plants still seem fairly healthy and the two shoots next to where I topped are growing but the plants aren't praying as much as they used to. They seem a little sad. I may make up some earthworm tea. Last time I did this they loved it and we're praying within 12 hours. My pineapple Express seedling looks a little better and the other one has just started sprouting. I may start another grow journal. I am recording everything on this grow, which I think will help me in the future. On my first grow I barely recorded anything which was a mistake
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2/22 am water and fed alien OG
More LST
2/24 Am. Plants droopy at 6am ? Because lights just came on or stress from training. Growth has noticeably slowed . Likely need to recover
Temp 82 RH 68
2/24 pm temp 84 Rh 70
watered Rosetta Stone. It was the only one really thirsty. I gave the other ones just a little bit of top watering used fish tank water without nutrients. Not sure why RS wants more water it is not bigger.
2/25 AM plants look healthy. Still stunted from training
New growth slightly lighter green.
A few purple stems near top of Rosetta Stone
2/24
watered all plants with half fish, water and half low nutrient solution? I mixed up a few days ago. Rosetta Stone still seem pretty thirsty for some reason. I am wondering about the soil not holding the water for her but she looks healthy. OG Kush needs the least water
pH.
Water for mota hari and alien OG at 6.5 and for Rosetta Stone and OG Kush at 6.6.
gave all plants about 250cc and mota Hari about 150 cc's
Plants droopy 10 am look overwatered
2/27 watered all but MOTA HARI not too thirsty
2/28 Rosetta stone thirsty got chicken manure tea
3/1 am MOTA hari and Alien OG hot chicken manure tea og kush not thirsty
3/2 all drank EWC tea other than OG kush
3/4 top dressed with one tablespoon Dr. Earth homegrown, one tablespoon of crab mail, one tablespoon of kelp, 1 tablespoon of alfalfa, one tablespoon of gypsum and a half tablespoon of chicken manure
3/4 Watered them all with pH. 6.3 @10 am. They were droopy. By 2:00 p.m. They started praying. I hope I did not overdo it with the fertilizer, but I figure this is all organic so I probably won't get a nutrient lock out right now. I guess we will see.
I had a little scare that maybe I had white powdery mildew but I think it is from my foliar spray. It is on old growth where I used to follow your spray a lot and new growth is completely unaffected. The back of leaves also look good.
Relative humidity today was 66% which I think is still okay temperature is 78
More LST
2/24 Am. Plants droopy at 6am ? Because lights just came on or stress from training. Growth has noticeably slowed . Likely need to recover
Temp 82 RH 68
2/24 pm temp 84 Rh 70
watered Rosetta Stone. It was the only one really thirsty. I gave the other ones just a little bit of top watering used fish tank water without nutrients. Not sure why RS wants more water it is not bigger.
2/25 AM plants look healthy. Still stunted from training
New growth slightly lighter green.
A few purple stems near top of Rosetta Stone
2/24
watered all plants with half fish, water and half low nutrient solution? I mixed up a few days ago. Rosetta Stone still seem pretty thirsty for some reason. I am wondering about the soil not holding the water for her but she looks healthy. OG Kush needs the least water
pH.
Water for mota hari and alien OG at 6.5 and for Rosetta Stone and OG Kush at 6.6.
gave all plants about 250cc and mota Hari about 150 cc's
Plants droopy 10 am look overwatered
2/27 watered all but MOTA HARI not too thirsty
2/28 Rosetta stone thirsty got chicken manure tea
3/1 am MOTA hari and Alien OG hot chicken manure tea og kush not thirsty
3/2 all drank EWC tea other than OG kush
3/4 top dressed with one tablespoon Dr. Earth homegrown, one tablespoon of crab mail, one tablespoon of kelp, 1 tablespoon of alfalfa, one tablespoon of gypsum and a half tablespoon of chicken manure
3/4 Watered them all with pH. 6.3 @10 am. They were droopy. By 2:00 p.m. They started praying. I hope I did not overdo it with the fertilizer, but I figure this is all organic so I probably won't get a nutrient lock out right now. I guess we will see.
I had a little scare that maybe I had white powdery mildew but I think it is from my foliar spray. It is on old growth where I used to follow your spray a lot and new growth is completely unaffected. The back of leaves also look good.
Relative humidity today was 66% which I think is still okay temperature is 78
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johnehazeharvester
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Was a bit nervous about over doing it with my top dressing yesterday. So far so good.
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johnehazeharvester
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Plants are mostly doing well. The Rosetta Stone has a bit of nutrient burn on the tips. It got more feeds than others as it was thirstier. A few of the bottom leaves have chlorosis on 3/4 of the plants I'm not sure if it is related to them touching mulch or getting some tea poured directly on them or there is a nutrient deficiency. Got home late last night and all of the plants were droopy and really needed to be watered. They perked up in about 20 minutes.
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johnehazeharvester
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I noticed interveinal chlorosis and brown spots on a few leaves of OG Kush.
I think it is Mg deficiency. My foliar spray has half tsp/liter of MgSo4(Epson salt). I added 1 tsp MgSo4, 1 tsp FF Grow Big, 1 Tbsp FF Big Bloom and Corn Seed Sprout Tea to gallon of water and watered all plants. OG Kush got about 1 liter. Should I add more Epson salt to a solution for OG Kush? I am wondering if there is too much Ca++ which can be antagonistic to MG. I have gypsum in the soil along with crab meal and bone meal. All of which has a bunch of phosphorus and calcium. Maybe too much?
I think it is Mg deficiency. My foliar spray has half tsp/liter of MgSo4(Epson salt). I added 1 tsp MgSo4, 1 tsp FF Grow Big, 1 Tbsp FF Big Bloom and Corn Seed Sprout Tea to gallon of water and watered all plants. OG Kush got about 1 liter. Should I add more Epson salt to a solution for OG Kush? I am wondering if there is too much Ca++ which can be antagonistic to MG. I have gypsum in the soil along with crab meal and bone meal. All of which has a bunch of phosphorus and calcium. Maybe too much?
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johnehazeharvester
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Convinced it was a K+ deficiency and not a Mg deficiency.
Topped dressed w 1 tbsp Dr Earth Premium Gold, Alfalfa Meal and Kelp meal
Mixed 1 tbsp wood ash in a gallon of water
3/16 AM watered w wood ash water mixed with Silicate (@55ppm of Silicate in .5L for OG KUSH) also added Tbsp molasses and EWC 1/2 cup to gallon.
Ordered K+So4. Not sure of application. I have seen between 1/16 tsp to 2 Tbsp. I will add to gallon of water @ 30-40ppm and see what quantity that is.
OG Kush is also closest to heater, This may use up more K+ due to increased perspiration and more stomata openings.
My Rosetta Stone showed signs of heat stress in this position and I exchanged it w OG Kush a few weeks ago. Switched plants around now we will see how MOTA Hara does near the heater
Topped dressed w 1 tbsp Dr Earth Premium Gold, Alfalfa Meal and Kelp meal
Mixed 1 tbsp wood ash in a gallon of water
3/16 AM watered w wood ash water mixed with Silicate (@55ppm of Silicate in .5L for OG KUSH) also added Tbsp molasses and EWC 1/2 cup to gallon.
Ordered K+So4. Not sure of application. I have seen between 1/16 tsp to 2 Tbsp. I will add to gallon of water @ 30-40ppm and see what quantity that is.
OG Kush is also closest to heater, This may use up more K+ due to increased perspiration and more stomata openings.
My Rosetta Stone showed signs of heat stress in this position and I exchanged it w OG Kush a few weeks ago. Switched plants around now we will see how MOTA Hara does near the heater
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johnehazeharvester
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added 1/4 teaspoon of potassium sulfate to 1 gallon of water that increase PPM about 43
3/17 pm plants were droopy and thirsty. watered them. Also did a foliar spray. I don't think they like that. It still had some Epsom salt in it and potassium silicate the new growth was twist. OG Kush got very droopy probably over watered. Maybe it's not perspiring great due to deficiency.
For next watering I upped the potassium sulfate 3/8 tsp /gallon. My rational is that 43 ppm is only about 50% K so still may be under feeding it especially with a deficiency. Deficiency seemed to slowly progress but new growth seemed decent.
Twisty new growth was better this morning
3/17 pm plants were droopy and thirsty. watered them. Also did a foliar spray. I don't think they like that. It still had some Epsom salt in it and potassium silicate the new growth was twist. OG Kush got very droopy probably over watered. Maybe it's not perspiring great due to deficiency.
For next watering I upped the potassium sulfate 3/8 tsp /gallon. My rational is that 43 ppm is only about 50% K so still may be under feeding it especially with a deficiency. Deficiency seemed to slowly progress but new growth seemed decent.
Twisty new growth was better this morning
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johnehazeharvester
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3/27 OG kush much worse since I went away. Necrosis and chlorosis of many leaves.
I left water with K sulfate in it, at about 1/4 tsp/ gallon for watering while I was away.
Other plants started looking K deficient.
Some had burnt tips which also could be nutrient burn
Fed with 1 tsp grow big, 1/2 tsp K sulfate, 1 tbsp big bloom
3/28 topped dressed with 3 tbsp Dr Eart Pure Gold and 2 tbsp Premium Gold 1 tbsp chicken manure and 1/4 EWC
Took 4 clones, 3 from Rosetta Stone and 1 from Mota Hari.
Put in peat cubes in dome in grow room
3/29 switched to 12/12 lights ( come on 6:45pm and off 6:45AM) This gives a bit of time in the morning and a lot at night which works for my schedule.
Mixed a gallon of water w 3 tsp ash, 1/2 tsp K Sulfate, 3cc FPJ(from prior cannabis run), 3cc FFJ(from rotting bananas -fermented for about 15 days) and tbsp molasses. PPM was 1400 so diluted to about 1000
Also added 1 ml calmag. (one of the plants had a few spots which may be calcium deficiency. Still did not water.
Plants looked a bit better and maybe light rest all day was good?
I also noticed my water gauge shows low moisture near edge of pot but fairly moist central area, I wonder if I have been overwatering?
They were droopy 8:30pm so watered. MOTA HARI least thirsty
I left water with K sulfate in it, at about 1/4 tsp/ gallon for watering while I was away.
Other plants started looking K deficient.
Some had burnt tips which also could be nutrient burn
Fed with 1 tsp grow big, 1/2 tsp K sulfate, 1 tbsp big bloom
3/28 topped dressed with 3 tbsp Dr Eart Pure Gold and 2 tbsp Premium Gold 1 tbsp chicken manure and 1/4 EWC
Took 4 clones, 3 from Rosetta Stone and 1 from Mota Hari.
Put in peat cubes in dome in grow room
3/29 switched to 12/12 lights ( come on 6:45pm and off 6:45AM) This gives a bit of time in the morning and a lot at night which works for my schedule.
Mixed a gallon of water w 3 tsp ash, 1/2 tsp K Sulfate, 3cc FPJ(from prior cannabis run), 3cc FFJ(from rotting bananas -fermented for about 15 days) and tbsp molasses. PPM was 1400 so diluted to about 1000
Also added 1 ml calmag. (one of the plants had a few spots which may be calcium deficiency. Still did not water.
Plants looked a bit better and maybe light rest all day was good?
I also noticed my water gauge shows low moisture near edge of pot but fairly moist central area, I wonder if I have been overwatering?
They were droopy 8:30pm so watered. MOTA HARI least thirsty
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johnehazeharvester
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After watering last night they have responded well
3/30 pm plants look good. Mixed two cc's of Cal mag. 3. Cc's fermented plant Two teaspoons of ash in water and then pH to 6.3
3/30 pm plants look good. Mixed two cc's of Cal mag. 3. Cc's fermented plant Two teaspoons of ash in water and then pH to 6.3
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johnehazeharvester
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They started flowering a few days ago. It looks like I got over the potassium deficiency. Hopefully I could keep it going to the finish. I go away for a week this Friday. My girlfriend has a green thumb so hopefully she could keep the watering going
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johnehazeharvester
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4/11 topped dressed w 1 tsp neem seed meal, 1 tbsp bone meal, 2 Tbsp Dr Earth Pure gold and 2 tbsp Dr Earth Flower girl.
Continue to add 1/4 tsp of K silicate or 1/2 tsp K sulfate to gallon of water along w 2-3 ml FFJ and FPJ, and 1 ml cal/mag to gallon of water for daily feeds.
Ph 6.3-6.8 PPM 150-350
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johnehazeharvester
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I noticed a few fungus gnats I will let the top media dry out a little bit more between watering
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johnehazeharvester
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Things are progressing. They are about 32 in high now
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johnehazeharvester
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3/28 i took 2 clones from mota hari and rosetta stone. I used small peat plugs. 1 has always been droopy. The other 3 have always looked okay. I kept them in flower room where temp has varried from 62-88 F. It somehow was 89 f outside where I live it broke a record. Usually there is still snow.
One started showing some roots so transplanted into solo cup last night. I put this in my male flower room as i was planning on using clones for seeds. Clones are only a couple inches high so not sure how this plan will work out. In future i will dedicate a spot for clones, but I took these when they were stressed from poor watering and K deficiency. I may try and selectively pollinate a couple buds in main flower room if these clones dont grow out too high. I might also try and reveg them after i collect pollen and sacrifice the males. Also when i return from my trip i plan on popping autos to be grown outside but will have to veg them inside for a few weeks. Not sure where in the house i will do this. I got alot going on and this is only my second grow.Don't want to overwhelm family with my hobby, so will keep you updated.
One started showing some roots so transplanted into solo cup last night. I put this in my male flower room as i was planning on using clones for seeds. Clones are only a couple inches high so not sure how this plan will work out. In future i will dedicate a spot for clones, but I took these when they were stressed from poor watering and K deficiency. I may try and selectively pollinate a couple buds in main flower room if these clones dont grow out too high. I might also try and reveg them after i collect pollen and sacrifice the males. Also when i return from my trip i plan on popping autos to be grown outside but will have to veg them inside for a few weeks. Not sure where in the house i will do this. I got alot going on and this is only my second grow.Don't want to overwhelm family with my hobby, so will keep you updated.
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I selectively pollinated a couple lower flowers on a branch of each of these plants with my pineapple Express. I first turned off all fans. I used a brush and tried to be careful. A couple times I noticed slight puffs of pollen with erratic hand movement. I used a spray bottle to suppress any pollen that may have gotten in the air. I'll keep my fingers crossed that I did not pollinate more of the flowers than I intended. I put paper bags on the branches with the selective pollination. I will leave on for at least one day and then spray.
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johnehazeharvester
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I gave them jadam microbial solution and fermented fruit juice and fermented plant juice tonight. We'll see how they do.
