re: GrowLEDHydro 300W LED vs. 400W HID Demonstration
Do you see any difference between the lamps in terms of calyx/leaf ratio or thickness of the leaf in the buds, or too early to tell? Nice lookin' African spears ya' got there.
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thanks bel! I took a careful gander at things during last night's pic session and I'll report my impressions as part of the pic update I'm posting today.
PPP has made me curious about other African sativas, but they have longer flowering and are lankier. Even the mini Malawi Gold needs to be flipped after a week to stay under 3'. PPP requires less patience, less headroom, and though it's African genes were crossed with "a fat indica from the US", it's buzz, IMO, is pure sativa.
For me, a mostly indoor grower who prefers sativas and 8-9wk flowering times, PPP is a "holy grail" strain.
ummm i like those resons
did you wash them before putting them on top?
Yep, I rinsed them with tap water to wash all the dust off before adding them to the buckets. They increased my watering interval by one day, as well as doing all those other good things I listed.
When you said you 'topped dressed' your plants with OC+, you spinkeled some on top?
I've been reading your posts, and there is so much merit in 'keeping in simple'....I live in a medium sized city in the bible belt...we now have 3 'garden-hydro' stores here, and they have row after row of nuits, and most are expensive as hell! I think they rely on 'snob' effect marketing, you know 'Its got to be expensive and complicated to be any good....
Heck, Im a amature hobby guy, and everytime I turn around I need bulbs, or I need soil, or this and that....grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
My next project is to come up with a resonable priced 'soil'...last trip to the store cost me $40 + for bags of dirt
I sprinkled it on top and then worked it into the medium as deeply as I could with my fingers being careful to not damage any major roots. When you top-dress with anything, it generally works better if you work it in.
There is a huge industry that has thrived and prospered under people's mistaken belief that cannabis requires specialized and expensive products to do well.
It's an extraordinary plant, but it doesn't need any extraordinary products to reach it's full potential. That has much more to do with genetics and environment than anything you can buy in a bottle.
The industry that was spawned through manipulating the myth that cannabis has special requirements has no interest in keeping things simple because simple doesn't sell product. Expensive product lines with literally dozens of different bottles and supplements bear witness.
Thanks for helping me lose weight. Pictures that sweet, I don't need dessert tonight.
The LED buds are definitely the visual top.
Well, this time of year, anything that helps us lose weight is good.
Buuuuurrrrppppppppp
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I hope today's pic update has the same effect, but I assure you that if you smoked some, all bets are off, lol.
it looks like the HID is frosting up more now then the LED is this what u see in person? i am really baked right now so not sure if its just me.lol or it just could be the camera angle?
These ladies, although they are genetically identical being from the same mom, have some variation between them. A couple of the plants in each tent are frostier than their tent-mates, and those are the ones I've focused on when taking pics to show frostiness. Since both tents shared this phenomenon, I didn't see it as unfair to focus on those plants in each tent for the pics, but when I last took those two plants out for pics, I tried to match their size, and the LED plant that matched up best wasn't one of the two plants in that tent that were somewhat frostier than the others, while the HID plant was one of the two frostier ladies in their tent, hence the discrepancy.
So, all that to say that your powers of observation were possibly enhanced by your state of bakedness
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i was going to ask you about that, ive been looking and taking bud pics for a long time so ive kinda learned how to look at buds/plants and really focus of the formation if you get it right then you can tell most times in pics if their filled in dense ect...
maybe a video some time will show us the real story so we can get that 3D effect.
Next update after today's will be a video
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ya i notice that. i was looking at the Age Old dry kelp stuff, its a big bag for cheap.
Do you have a link for the Age Old dry kelp?
I was thinking SS. I agree that the led's are bulkier than the hid plants. But to me it looks like a lot of that bulk is leaf structure in the buds. Not that this is bad since they are smothered in trichomes. The led plants seem to be leafier from the get go. I just wonder if the led plants are going to have leafier buds then the hid's if that makes sense. They might be thicker and denser but the hid plants might end up having better bag appeal. Just a thought.
I get the best feel for those issues when I handle and trim the buds after harvest, so I'll be able to comment more on that after I trim and manicure.
I've been lurking and reading over the past few months, and I want to say thank you for all the information I've picked up.
Please keep up the good work SS, can't wait to hear the fat lady sing
thanks WattSaver!
I hope this grow and journal, along with GLH, can provide you with the info and details you're seeking.
Watt, it's on page 8... lol... I know 74 pages is a lot to read but there is a lot of good info on this tread.. Probably one of the most LED informative treads on the net...
Here I will save you some time...
thanks dogs, you definitely saved me some work and time trying to find that, and I very much appreciate it
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If you gotta problem with outputs exceeding inputs, you probably also have a problem with the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics and yer perpetual motion machines
Waddya mean there's no free lunch?
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I could swear my dogs' output exceeds their input
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Wow!! Everything looking great, bro!!
thank you phil!
Update coming up
=m loving the equal representation of the LED vs HID. The PPP`s are looking sticky and fantastic already SS.
You are going to do a full bud review on the comparison grow as well as a Dry weight comparison correct? Either way i`m down for watching all of it unfold. Keep up the amazing work!
I'm going to do a "harvest index" on this grow, so this is my plan:
1. Chop plants at soil line and weigh them immediately before doing any trimming.
2. Trim off fan leaves and hang plants to dry.
3. After drying, do final trimming on the buds and report dry weights individually for each plant.
4. Report on bud quality and do smoke report for LED and HID groups
individually.
bel, if I'm missing something important, please let me know.
thank you eBUD, and glad you're onboard!
What's the harvest ETA Dr. Sun?
Should be around 2 more weeks or thereabouts if they go 9 weeks. From my reading and research on PPP, they sometimes pack it on heavy towards the end and can benefit greatly from going an extra week, so max 3 weeks.
I'm looking to harvest with a low percentage of amber trichs, so that's what I'll base my decision to chop on.
thanks Soniq
and if willing, please don't hesitate to apply your statistical skills and reporting to the numbers I generate
i mean as plant food goes!!!
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