30% More Indica Yield

[improvise]

interesting indeedy

 

[JBUptown]

Whats up Just something i came across on my indicas research It mainly applys for Indicas and partly Sativas, and i suppose u could u use it to on autos

Most growers think that removing one or two big leaves is okay, especially since removal of the large ones allows other parts of the plant to produce bigger sticky buds. But then again, those big solar panel leaves are gathering energy for the plant. Removing them is like cutting off a source of energy for growth.
Recently, while visiting one of the more skilled growers I have met in my travels, I asked the secret for getting consistent quality and big yields from top to bottom on very-tall indoor plants. I was told that plucking leaves was key. Turns out the answer has more to do with when rather than yes or no.

With OG Kush crops, after about four weeks into flowering, the growers almost completely defoliated the big, beautiful leafy plants. Seeing the before and after, I was a little shocked (what are these guys smoking?) Big, healthy bushes stripped to sticks with just a few fan leaves, but with all of the budding sites intact.
Yet, when they showed me a section that had been treated this way and was now ready to harvest, it became clear that there was a method to what appears as madness.

Not all strains will respond favorably to this method, but all of the tested Kush strains and indica-dominant strains responded very well, sometimes giving up to 30% more yield. Some Sativa hybrids respond well too, although they typically need to have fewer fan leaves removed.
By removing the big leaves, the canopy opens and breathes a second wind into the crop.

Since more light reaches all parts of the plant and humidity isn't trapped in the canopy, you will see bigger, harder and frostier nugs at harvest time. Buds swell up almost overnight, because the roots can now channel more juice into buds and there is no foliage to rob the bud of fluid.

Do pluck all at once: not a little here and there. While it does shock the plant, healthy plants recover virtually overnight; especially if you follow up with a feeding of vitamins and trace minerals (post-surgery feeding).
Also note that plucking one or two leaves off in veg to open up the canopy isn’t a bad idea either, but wait untill all the budding sites have formed before chopping most of them

Indochronic,

Have you really tried a true controlled comparison test and weighed a yield increase of 30%?

I guess I'm asking if you had two clones that were provided identical conditions throughout the entire grow processes, and only changed the one variable: removal of the fan leaves on one plant and leaving the other with it's fan leaves?

I'm not doubting that you enjoy the process, or that you think your yield increases. I'm a Engineer by trade and education, and I enjoy the proof of concept as much as most others enjoy tinkering to achieve different results. Most often when I am presented with the challenge of increasing production or decreasing production costs (of whatever end product), controlled testing is the only way to truly determine the measurable success of a process modification. I would really like to know if you or anyone reading this has performed a true side by side controlled test and comparison where every other possible variable is as kept as identical as humanly possible. I know this whole grow thing is mostly for personal gratification and I do enjoy it also, without or without true science!
Enjoy and best of the big buds to you!



JB

 

[indochronic]

I Have Not Yet Tried It Man. But i do like the way u think and ur line of work in engineering
I do like my logic myself and getting 100% achevement out of things
Due to a couple of things i cant realy experment to much, rather then aiming for straight foward good yields. Since the ladies can take upto 4 months and not having enough space and being able to grow outside properly i wouldnt have the space and time to do a comparisent.
Im starting LSTing and super cropping autos just for generaly bigger plants/bud etc. and seeing if my harvests increase in general.
As much as id love to get into the hole scientific side of plants and really understand them, im not quite in the right country for it Yet haha

INDO

 

[JBUptown]

I am trying a comparison test using M1 clones of a White Widow right now. Clones were the same size, from the same branch, and have been treated as identical as possible in every aspect I can control. They are 28 days into flower, and I just stripped one down to barely any fan leaves other than the top pairs of cola feeders. The other one is not being defoliated at all. As I have read from other leaf picker aficionados with seemingly much experience in the matter, I will defoliated somewhere in the 60 day range once more fan leaves have emerged. As always I'm actually always more interested in quality not quantity since I only grow for my own med, and that will be a major indicator to me of the methods usefulness, but I will include yield in the final tally. Still have about 6 weeks to know the wet numbers, and several more weeks beyond that for dry cured values. I'll post the numbers in case anyone wants the results of my unscientific test!



JB

 

[indochronic]

I am trying a comparison test using M1 clones of a White Widow right now. Clones were the same size, from the same branch, and have been treated as identical as possible in every aspect I can control. They are 28 days into flower, and I just stripped one down to barely any fan leaves other than the top pairs of cola feeders. The other one is not being defoliated at all. As I have read from other leaf picker aficionados with seemingly much experience in the matter, I will defoliated somewhere in the 60 day range once more fan leaves have emerged. As always I'm actually always more interested in quality not quantity since I only grow for my own med, and that will be a major indicator to me of the methods usefulness, but I will include yield in the final tally. Still have about 6 weeks to know the wet numbers, and several more weeks beyond that for dry cured values. I'll post the numbers in case anyone wants the results of my unscientific test!



JB

Plus reps to u Great strain choice to try with and from clone wont take u and us to notice the results il have to drop over to ur thread and check this out. I would love to be able to have the space and extra to do all these tests myself, so its great when someones able to do the exact test thats in topic

 

[RootSpaGuru]

I agree pull em then introduce bloom nutes pull em indrouce ripe nutes flush cut and smoke some ,cure some jar some and smoke some more.

 

[DebonaireBeef]

Good luck on ye grow there brov! rocks!

 

[JBUptown]

Plus reps to u Great strain choice to try with and from clone wont take u and us to notice the results il have to drop over to ur thread and check this out. I would love to be able to have the space and extra to do all these tests myself, so its great when someones able to do the exact test thats in topic

Thanks indochronic,

The clone, grow, flower and defoliate phases of my test are complete and I have harvested the 2 WW test subjects. I am going to wait until the cure is complete before I post my full results as I want to include potency, aroma, flavor and other subjective judgement in the final report card.

I will say this, the single measure of quantity are heavily in favor of defoliation, wet harvest measured 37% more weight on the defoliated buds plant. I must admit, I am pleasantly surprised by the results thus far, but again, for me quantity is not the primary indicator of success. I was biased against pulling healthy fan leaves before my test, now, well I'm at least on the fence, and might even be a "Fan" of the process if the results continue to impress as they have thus far! 70 more days and the cure will optimal and the results tallied.



JB

 

[indochronic]

Plus Reps JB. The Test was for yield and it worked Now well see if effected smell, taste, or smoothness ( due to stress to the plant, it could of dimmed one of thoes 3 abit)

 

[indochronic]

i cant gives reps right now. Defo on the way tho

 

[DrZ4U]

Thanks indochronic,

The clone, grow, flower and defoliate phases of my test are complete and I have harvested the 2 WW test subjects. I am going to wait until the cure is complete before I post my full results as I want to include potency, aroma, flavor and other subjective judgement in the final report card.

I will say this, the single measure of quantity are heavily in favor of defoliation, wet harvest measured 37% more weight on the defoliated buds plant. I must admit, I am pleasantly surprised by the results thus far, but again, for me quantity is not the primary indicator of success. I was biased against pulling healthy fan leaves before my test, now, well I'm at least on the fence, and might even be a "Fan" of the process if the results continue to impress as they have thus far! 70 more days and the cure will optimal and the results tallied.



JB

Have you managed to take any pics of your grow?
It is interesting to see a back to back comparison.

 

[indochronic]

I think he said he has a journal on it man. check out his profile and recent threads