2Water's 1st Grow

Bill284 said:
:Namaste: do you mind if I ask what is in the pots?:Namaste:
It looks like coco with bark in it?
Sorry for the repeat question.
I'm sure you said already.
Thanks.




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Not a problem at all. So the base soil mix was 1.5cu ft of roots organic original, home depot coco coir 8 gallons worth, 2 gallons or perlite, and half a bag of lowes potting soil that I had lying around and wanted to get rid of, lol. I mixed in half a bag of worm castings, and separated a quarter of the mix to keep "plain." I added 2 cups of Down To Earth 333, 1.5 cups Acid Mix, and 1.5 cups of Rose & Flower mix to the other 3/4 and let cook for over a month. Only other thing is the diluted coconut water. Hope that helps!
 
2Water said:
Not a problem at all. So the base soil mix was 1.5cu ft of roots organic original, home depot coco coir 8 gallons worth, 2 gallons or perlite, and half a bag of lowes potting soil that I had lying around and wanted to get rid of, lol. I mixed in half a bag of worm castings, and separated a quarter of the mix to keep "plain." I added 2 cups of Down To Earth 333, 1.5 cups Acid Mix, and 1.5 cups of Rose & Flower mix to the other 3/4 and let cook for over a month. Only other thing is the diluted coconut water. Hope that helps!
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Your base is coco coir.
One month isn't enough time for nutrients to cook.
I'd feed her a weak nutrient until the roots start picking up something available. :Namaste:
They aren't getting nutrients and are just hungry.




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Bill284 said:
Your base is coco coir.
One month isn't enough time for nutrients to cook.
I'd feed her a weak nutrient until the roots start picking up something available. :Namaste:
They aren't getting nutrients and are just hungry.




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Bill284 :cool:
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Thanks Bill, any suggestion on what to give? Should I be focusing on Nitrgen? I know the coconut water has a decent amount of potassium and other goodies.

For next time, how long should I cook for? I was going by checking temp (admittedly by feel) of the soil, and once it cooled off and was maintaining a healthy microbe colony (my wife got grossed out by the white mold, lol) I figured it was cooked?
 
Also, if if matters, since I want to learn from next time, do I actually need to build 2 layers, or cook sufficiently and run it altogether? Would I be ok in coco perlite (trying to figure if I should just add more of that to replenish soil, or more roots organic original?)

I have probably about 15 gallons worth of soil left, was going to fill in the pot more this weekend since they've grown a little more.
 
Bill284 said:
Your base is coco coir.
One month isn't enough time for nutrients to cook.
I'd feed her a weak nutrient until the roots start picking up something available. :Namaste:
They aren't getting nutrients and are just hungry.




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Bill284 :cool:
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Ahhh, there's the likely correct answer. Thanks, Bill!:thanks:

I thought it looked hungry but that's surprising for such a small plant in Supersoil. But, if the microbes haven't released enough nutrients yet, they could be there but still unavailable to the plant.
 
Alright, so before the night is through, 1 last update. They were hungry/slash thirsty, pots were dry. I watered each plant about 1 liter of water mixed with 15ml coconut water and 2 tablespoons of raw honey. Literally by the time I got spraying (using a pump sprayer) I could see the color coming back. Freaking amazing! Do I sound like a proud papa? Mama even gave them a pep talk (totally serious)! Plan now will be to water every other day 1 liter per plant. Since it's mostly coco based it should help maintain being moist but not dry. Thanks again @Azimuth and @Ben284! Oh, and I finally topped off the pots!

#1
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#2
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#3.... last to get watered, so still a little droopy, but color looks better.
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Hey guys, been trying to follow VPD charts, but since yesterday, the girls have been appearing to like lower humidity. I am currently running 55-60%rh. When I try to go higher, thier color changes. They are only 2 weeks from being planted in dirt, 1.5 weeks from sprouting. From what I've read, their root system shouldn't be developed enough, am I missing something? I've read some place that MAC prefers drier conditions, but other places I hear the opposite? Either way, I'll just keep listening to the girls, lol. Also gave them names (not really feminine names, but just so I dont keep calling them numbers).
#1 is Riker (where's my trekkies at?)
#2 is Twista (1 of her 3 finger leaves developed a little twisted.
#3 is Droopy (the runt, always a little dropped over, but has the best overall structure).
I'll post pics on Wednesday. Enjoy the rest of your weekend!
 
I couldn't resist some pics. Yellowing on edges been coming and going, I am pushing DLI, I noticed if RH is below 60% they appear to drink up more. Just watered an hour ago, and the color is coming back after stabilizinf. I had held off getting a dehumidifier, didn't think I needed one yet, but looks like I might need one? ***I think I have the white balance on my camera figured out***
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Also raised the light, trying to get more stretch, lol
 
2Water said:
I couldn't resist some pics. Yellowing on edges been coming and going, I am pushing DLI, I noticed if RH is below 60% they appear to drink up more. Just watered an hour ago, and the color is coming back after stabilizinf. I had held off getting a dehumidifier, didn't think I needed one yet, but looks like I might need one? ***I think I have the white balance on my camera figured out***
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Also raised the light, trying to get more stretch, lol
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Good morning. :ciao:
Girls are coming along nicely.
60 rh is perfect.
You don't need a dehumidifier until flower.
And only if rh is above 60.
You have a couple months to monitor it before you decide.
Hope your having a great day.
Take care.




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Bill284 said:
Good morning. :ciao:
Girls are coming along nicely.
60 rh is perfect.
You don't need a dehumidifier until flower.
And only if rh is above 60.
You have a couple months to monitor it before you decide.
Hope your having a great day.
Take care.




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Bill284 :cool:
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Thanks Bill, just was getting thrown off by suggested rh for seedlings. Guess the plants know best!
 
Looking good. Hopefully you'll get some N into those girls to darken the green up a bit. No sense starting her off behind the eight ball so early.
 
Unfortunately, organic amendments have typically a couple of week lag time before they have an impact as they take time for the microbes to break them down.
 
Week 3 from sprouting. Crazy week, I tried to push the light too much, Twista and Droopy got pushed too hard (and then I decided it would be good to counter that with more water...), so they had a rough week of my abuse. Lesson learned, go by weakest link and set tent to them. They are recovering and I have everything dialed in. Just looking very ugly, and Twista is even more twisted.... should I be worried or just let her grow?

Also, started mainline training on #1 Riker. The other girls appear to be 5ish day behind, so I my plan is to do a traditional mainline on Riker, and then do a nebula manifold on the other 2. Hopefully that will bring them closer together in the end. Of course, this all depends if I stop torturing them, lol!

#1 - Riker, she was growing along beautifully, a little sad to cut her up, but she looks good now too!
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#2 - Twista, all twisted, but perking up and uncurling a little
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#3 - Droopy, not so droopy at the moment, hoping for some stretch, but proud of how resilient she is seeming to be
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Hello friends, so 4th week update. Riker is coming along like a champ, probably will be giving her second top this weekend. Droopy and Twista are really falling behind, and I'm debating on keeping them. I think my efforts would be better focused on Riker. I'll make my decision this weekend, but no shots of them today. So just Riker for now...
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So I will keep all 3, might as well, right? Riker will be getting her final top soon for an 8 top mainline. Droopy, i topped her too early, just going to grow her out for now. Twista, I will be pruning and lst'ing her tonight, hope I can top for 8 tops come Wednesday. Brought the humidifier back in, raising temp to 84F high and 72F low, and 62%rh. Currently getting 430ish ppfd for each plant. Once I have finished topping, I will shoot to get ppfd around 600 for 2 weeks before flipping to flower.
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