2nd Grow All Clones: Mine & Purchased

[candycane]

Hello MS. Candycane.

We probably don't see them when they are green because they are in the middle of a bud. It can be hard to see them even after they turn yellow.

I've never seen them outside of a bud like yours are

Thank you VG! I appreciate ya! I’m so over this line of genetics..I’ve got my other beans going from a reputable source so at least now with more knowledge, better genetics and completely proper equipment maybe I can get a herm free grow completed.

 

[Virgin Ground]

Thank you VG! I appreciate ya! I’m so over this line of genetics..I’ve got my other beans going from a reputable source so at least now with more knowledge, better genetics and completely proper equipment maybe I can get a herm free grow completed.

No problem. I'm sorry I haven't been over here before now. I'm kinda like a vampire. You need to invite me. Lol.
I'll give your journal a read this evening.

 

[Virgin Ground]

Candy, I'm caught up now.

I thought that I should mention that
I had problems running an ultrasonic humidifier while running my carbon filter.
If the humidity gets above 70% moisture will be absorbed into your carbon.
I destroyed my first carbon filter this way and it happened at a really inopportune time.
I no longer run my carbon during veg because of this experience. I actually wait until they are a few weeks after flip to start it.
Just something to keep in mind.

 

[candycane]

Candy, I'm caught up now.

I thought that I should mention that
I had problems running an ultrasonic humidifier while running my carbon filter.
If the humidity gets above 70% moisture will be absorbed into your carbon.
I destroyed my first carbon filter this way and it happened at a really inopportune time.
I no longer run my carbon during veg because of this experience. I actually wait until they are a few weeks after flip to start it.
Just something to keep in mind.

Thank you for the heads up and I will definitely remember that next go around!

 

[Heavenly Hybrid]

So I had this feeling in my gut after reading TB’s light leak situation and all the sudden kinda panicked.. when I was getting the tent prepared to put the girls into flower my boy zipped me up in there then I him and neither one of us saw anything was pitch black. Thought all was well.... I did out of precaution put a thick sheet around the front that’s closest to his bedroom light just as another layer. Well I did not take into account when I increased the air exhaust that the seams would be stretched on that cheap a#* tent and last night I took a peek at the part against the wall and bam I could see a thin line of led light on the wall I quickly shoved sheets all around the back and top so no light could get back to that part at all and I added sheets all around the tent but this afternoon when I finally had time to really give them a good thorough inspection... I was too late.. there was one small branch on the back left Deadhead OG that had what appeared to be a couple of opened sacs............I saw no other signs of male parts anywhere else on any of the other girls but the damage has been done....WTH it had to have been a minuscule bit of light as it was against the wall for frick sake..well maybe I can get seed free weed round 3 possibly maybe since Blue Dream is by herself in the 2x4 in a different room she’ll be ok. I can’t believe I didn’t think about the seams in the back.
I didn’t chop the whole plant as it was just the one small branch but I did take the whole branch off.

Hi there candycane! Mr S gave me a shout, so I’ll be reading through and getting caught up soon too. I read back just a couple pages, so hopefully I understand where you’re at right now. From these pics of yours, it does look similar to the nanners I had before. Here’s some pics of the ones I had.

I don’t know if that helps? Anyhow, sorry to come in with a bummer opinion on it. I’m gonna go get caught up the rest of the way now.

 

[candycane]

Hi there candycane! Mr S gave me a shout, so I’ll be reading through and getting caught up soon too. I read back just a couple pages, so hopefully I understand where you’re at right now. From these pics of yours, it does look similar to the nanners I had before. Here’s some pics of the ones I had.

I don’t know if that helps? Anyhow, sorry to come in with a bummer opinion on it. I’m gonna go get caught up the rest of the way now.

Thank you and that totally clears it up! The news sucks but it is what it is at this point and I’ll just keep on keepin on and hopefully they will make it another few weeks. I wish I would have came on and interacted on this site sooner than I did so I could have been on track with some vitally important info sooner. But I’m here now and all y’all have been extremely helpful and I’m so very very thankful. This next round I will have a much better turn out and I’m sure of that because of what I have learned from here.

 

[Backlipslide]

Bananas are rarely round and they don’t look like a normal pollen sac. Instead, they’re often elongated and yellow, which is where they get the nickname “banana”. They also often grow together in bunches that can look like a bunch of bananas. Occasionally they appear more lime green than yellow.
Sometimes a banana appears lime green instead of yellow.

These can be a lot more difficult to control than actual pollen sacs, since they may start pollinating everything in the area as soon as they appear. A few bananas won’t do much damage, but if you have a big banana problem it may be best to harvest the plants immediately and cut your losses. Seeds take some time to develop, so if a plant starts herming right around harvest time, it’s less likely you’ll end up with seeds.

@MrSauga an outdoor plant has the exception to a few light leaks, as they grow up to such environments naturally . Indoor grows, are a controlled environment and any light leak can cause problems. I’m not saying your wrong, but outdoor plants naturally have the stars and moon to and other light pollution to contend with.

 

[Virgin Ground]

I’m not saying your wrong, but outdoor plants naturally have the stars and moon to and other light pollution to contend with.

Stars, moon and light pollution have such a low par that it won't effect plant negatively.It is something like 5 par
(1 lux)from the full moon. Stars are even less.
I have an aquarium light that mimics this. When Finnex made it they used par reading of both the sun and the moon( moon setting is between 3-5 par as it has a ramping feature built in) Stupid thing can even give me a lightning storm at the push of a button.
Most of the effect that the moon has on a plant is gravitational. It influences liquids inside of the plant and moisture availability in the soil.

My guess is that Sauga's light is far enough away that it isn't having an effect on the plant because of the low par. If he had a meter he could check how much his plant is getting from the security light.
Here is an abstract from an Astrobiologist.
Influence on photosynthesis of starlight, moonlight, planetlight, and light pollution (reflections on photosynthetically active radiation in the universe).
Raven JA, et al. Astrobiology. 2006.
Show full citation
Abstract
Photosynthesis on Earth can occur in a diversity of organisms in the photosynthetically active radiation (PAR) range of 10 nmol of photons m(-2) s(-1) to 8 mmol of photons m(-2) s(-1). Similar considerations would probably apply to photosynthetic organisms on Earth-like planets (ELPs) in the continuously habitable zone of other stars. On Earth, starlight PAR is inadequate for photosynthetically supported growth. An increase in starlight even to reach the minimum theoretical levels to allow for photosynthesis would require a universe that was approximately ten million times older, or with a ten million times greater density of stars, than is the case for the present universe. Photosynthesis on an ELP using PAR reflected from a natural satellite with the same size as our Moon, but at the Roche limit, could support a low rate of photosynthesis at full Moon. Photosynthesis on an ELP-like satellite of a Jupiter-sized planet using light reflected from the planet could be almost 1% of the rate in full sunlight on Earth when the planet was full. These potential contributions to photosynthesis require that the contribution is compared with the rate of photosynthesis driven by direct radiation from the star. Light pollution on Earth only energizes photosynthesis by organisms that are very close to the light source. However, effects of light pollution on photosynthesis can be more widespread if the photosynthetic canopy is retained for more of the year, caused by effects on photoperiodism, with implications for the influence of civilizations on photosynthesis.



We don't grow our plants for more than a season so there is no effect from widespread light pollution.

 

[Heavenly Hybrid]

All right, I’m all caught up! Whew!
You’ve got a nice set up candycane and a nice green thumb! I went though some very similar experiences with my 4x4 tent. I’ll just suggest getting some black duct tape and cover the seams of your tent where the light comes through. It’ll probably be a lot easier to deal with than a sheet. I had to do the same thing, but I was salty about it because I had opted for a more expensive tent. I should’ve just saved the money!!
As for dealing with nanners/pollen, I’d recommend getting in there and spray/wipe down things down with water. It kills pollen and will help stop any from spreading around to the other ladies. Or at least some damage control. I (hunger games) salute you in solidarity, you have a great attitude about it all.
Hope you don’t mind if I stay and enjoy the rest of the show. Thanks for the call @MrSauga!

 

[candycane]

All right, I’m all caught up! Whew!
You’ve got a nice set up candycane and a nice green thumb! I went though some very similar experiences with my 4x4 tent. I’ll just suggest getting some black duct tape and cover the seams of your tent where the light comes through. It’ll probably be a lot easier to deal with than a sheet. I had to do the same thing, but I was salty about it because I had opted for a more expensive tent. I should’ve just saved the money!!
As for dealing with nanners/pollen, I’d recommend getting in there and spray/wipe down things down with water. It kills pollen and will help stop any from spreading around to the other ladies. Or at least some damage control. I (hunger games) salute you in solidarity, you have a great attitude about it all.
Hope you don’t mind if I stay and enjoy the rest of the show. Thanks for the call @MrSauga!

Thank you! I’m happy to have you here I gotta feed the girls today and had definitely planned on taking everything out and plucking off any questionables and wiping the tent and equipment down to hopefully help things out. I was feeling pretty defeated at first but I don’t give up easily. I had done so much research before I even started but with that I just had to keep googling and YouTubing everything because I had ZERO knowledge beforehand on my first grow. And googling is actually what led me to this site time and time again.
Again!

 

[Heavenly Hybrid]

Good plan! Glad to hear you are bouncing back nicely. It took me a good while to get over mine. Genetics have a lot to do with things. From what I see you’ve got your environment within a good range, so keep it up. Better and better as you go!
I’m glad you found your way over, (I’m late to say it, but) welcome to the mag!

 

[MrSauga]

Thanks for stopping by girls and sharing your wisdom

My guess is that Sauga's light is far enough away that it isn't having an effect on the plant because of the low par. If he had a meter he could check how much his plant is getting from the security light.

Actually it's directly underneath. If I open the back sliding door and walk one pace, I am at the plants. My wife goes out quite often. The timer is set for 2 minutes after no motion.
This is my opinion only, that more often than not when a plant hermies the easy answer is a light leak. I'm not saying it can't stress a plant out and cause it to hermie if it was under lights for a couple of hours(as an example) each day when it's typically lights off. Reading her post it sounds like she had a real thin line of light that she could notice against the wall. I'm not sold on that amount of light for the length of the grow caused it to hermie. Her plants went through a lot more than a little bit of light leak in my opinion. I think there was concern over the genetics too.
I just didn't want her to think that the hermied plant was caused by light leaks and possibly make the same mistake over again unknowingly.

 

[candycane]

I took the girls out and wiped everything down in the tent and pulled off anything that I saw that looked suspicious. I’m 34 days post 12/12 flip Mid Flower Day 13. After looking them over very thoroughly I dunno they seem a lot weaker at this stage than my last run. Stems aren’t as thick, the buds were getting thicker especially up top at the beginning. But they just don’t seem like they are where they should be at this point in the run and the ones lower down on the branch (still in the light) aren’t really budding up at all just have the white hairs.
I think this whole mess is a mixture of bad genetics and not having my temp and RH in check for that little bit when I first switched over. It does suck tremendously but I learned more in a couple of weeks than I did in a few months of just trying to watch videos and googling for the bits of info that I would get from various places. I had no one to ask around me when I first started this and everyone that was around me was acting like I was going overboard talking about PH and PPM and trying to get the environment right and that’s why I started my online searching.
I’m hoping they can make it to at least a somewhat harvest so it won’t be a total bust as some weed is better than no weed and it’s what I use for pain control from the Lupus and RA and increase my appetite to try and keep any kind of weight on. I do have quite a bit left from my last harvest but I don’t think enough to last until I get the babies I just started to a harvest because I want to do this next one completely right and take my time and not feel like I’m rushing.
Thank each and everyone of you that has helped either with some great info and or a good laugh! I appreciate y’all
Here’s a few pics I took today couldn’t get super clear shots

 

[MrSauga]

I had no one to ask around me when I first started this and everyone that was around me was acting like I was going overboard talking about PH and PPM and trying to get the environment right and that’s why I started my online searching.

The good news is you found us!

 

[Heavenly Hybrid]

When you squeeze those things you pulled off, are they a bit hard inside? They look like they could be seed pods to me? Or the bracts, which you wouldn’t need to take off.
You’ve got some really nice buds forming and I don’t see any reason they wouldn’t make it all the way to harvest for you, unless you discovered a ton of nanners on one of them.
Keep up the good work

 

[candycane]

When you squeeze those things you pulled off, are they a bit hard inside? They look like they could be seed pods to me? Or the bracts, which you wouldn’t need to take off.
You’ve got some really nice buds forming and I don’t see any reason they wouldn’t make it all the way to harvest for you, unless you discovered a ton of nanners on one of them.
Keep up the good work

The stuff I pulled off is soft and empty when I pick it open . All I saw today was what I snapped pics of that I picked off. I’ll be checking them over on a daily for sure.

 

[candycane]

The good news is you found us!

Absolutely! And I appreciate y’all more than you know! It’s been nice to be able to talk about this with people who know what the heck they are doing and are passionate about it. I have found even in the chaos of it to be so very therapeutic.

 

[Preston9mm]

I'm slow... please forgive me. LoL I'd like to tag along if ya don't mind.... looks like i got a bit of catching up to do.

 

[MrSauga]

The stuff I pulled off is soft and empty when I pick it open . All I saw today was what I snapped pics of that I picked off. I’ll be checking them over on a daily for sure.

Those are the bracts that HH mentioned. No need to remove them. You want to remove the long slender green or yellow nanners.

 

[candycane]

I'm slow... please forgive me. LoL I'd like to tag along if ya don't mind.... looks like i got a bit of catching up to do.

Lol happy to have ya here!