Granny420
Well-Known Member
re: 2 - Unknown - Gifted
Ok... now I have read your journal and understand you want to know what strain the plants are... and as many have said, that just is impossible to clearly define. OldMedMan named his first unknown strains after his ex-wives! Maybe you can just find think of some interesting names for them? LOL
Yes, leaves are different between Indica and Sativa, as you noted. However, I've grown numerous strains and most are strong on the Indica side for heritage (I like the body, couchlock effect), yet their leaves are more pointed. The round leaf one I would bet money is a strong Indica... but the other may also be too.
Now-a-days I don't think there are many "pure" strains out there because of all the cross-breeding to make the multitude of strains that are now out there. Most are a mix.
You don't necessarily need to know the strain... if your friend only saves seeds from smoke she found extra good - that is the best info you need! If it smokes good - it's good!
As for lights... I am going to jump in and make a suggestion or two.
First, if you want the best growth... IMO, Metal Halide (MH) for vegging and High Pressure Sodium (HPS) for flowering is my top recommendation. I purchased lights that could convert back and forth between them and I have been nothing but PLEASED. However, they do put out a lot of heat.
If your area is small and heat will be a problem, the hmm... was it a T5??? light that you have is a very good one... and CFLs do a great job of vegging and a fair job of flowering. However, I think many growers end up adding more and more CFLs to get enough light throughout the plants as they grow in flower, so they often end up with the same wattage and heat as what one HPS/MH light would put out.
Halogens do NOT work. 4' shop lights do NOT work. I gave this same advice to a friend of mine. When he started in, he was trying to flower with 4 ft. shop lights and his plants were very very very sad looking, with light green leaves, weak plants, and when flowering had only tiny tops at 8 weeks (2 grams per plant at harvest). He then tried switching to halogen lights with the next series of plants and the plants improved with growth, but then got burnt real bad. Then he finally took my advice and invested in a 400w HPS-MH convertable light and now HE IS IN HEAVEN. And he can buy bulbs for it at our local Menards (important to him).
Also, since he is still using those 4' lights to veg, I taught him how to LST to fill his plants out and make the top areas more even - which is important since his light source is only effective by being very close to the plant. He is really pleased on his latest girls in veg now cuz he has multiple tops at the top level and all are receiving better light. He will be happy in the near future when he has many top colas! If you need any info on how to do that, there is a multitude of info here in 420magazine as well as pictures in my 2009 grow.
Maybe you prefer to top tho to fill out your plants - that's an excellent method too! However, if you learn to FIM (F*** I Missed), it is almost like topping, accept you kindof just take PART of the top instead of the entire top. OldMedMan just put a video in his journal giving a demonstration. Search for his current grow and go to the end of his journal to find this video.
I researched a lot before starting in back in 2009... and then I invested in convertable HPS/MH: two 1000w (for a very large room to flower) and one 250w (to veg - also many CFLs in there). I am SOOOOO happy for those choices of mine. Yes, they put out heat... but they sure do grow huge, incredible colas. Check out my 2009 grow (approximately pages 35 and up) to see what kind of plants they grow. IMO, they are the absolute best lights to use for the best plant growth.
Your light choice is an important one. Hope this info helped!!! If you want to grow 4 plants at a time - I recommend a 600w, or at least a 400w.
Just my 2cents! I am sure glad to meet you and wish you GREAT SUCCESS with your grow! I will try real hard to stop back and check on your progress!!! It is SO GOOD TO MEET YOU!!!
LOVIES!!!
Ok... now I have read your journal and understand you want to know what strain the plants are... and as many have said, that just is impossible to clearly define. OldMedMan named his first unknown strains after his ex-wives! Maybe you can just find think of some interesting names for them? LOL
Yes, leaves are different between Indica and Sativa, as you noted. However, I've grown numerous strains and most are strong on the Indica side for heritage (I like the body, couchlock effect), yet their leaves are more pointed. The round leaf one I would bet money is a strong Indica... but the other may also be too.
Now-a-days I don't think there are many "pure" strains out there because of all the cross-breeding to make the multitude of strains that are now out there. Most are a mix.
You don't necessarily need to know the strain... if your friend only saves seeds from smoke she found extra good - that is the best info you need! If it smokes good - it's good!
As for lights... I am going to jump in and make a suggestion or two.
First, if you want the best growth... IMO, Metal Halide (MH) for vegging and High Pressure Sodium (HPS) for flowering is my top recommendation. I purchased lights that could convert back and forth between them and I have been nothing but PLEASED. However, they do put out a lot of heat.
If your area is small and heat will be a problem, the hmm... was it a T5??? light that you have is a very good one... and CFLs do a great job of vegging and a fair job of flowering. However, I think many growers end up adding more and more CFLs to get enough light throughout the plants as they grow in flower, so they often end up with the same wattage and heat as what one HPS/MH light would put out.
Halogens do NOT work. 4' shop lights do NOT work. I gave this same advice to a friend of mine. When he started in, he was trying to flower with 4 ft. shop lights and his plants were very very very sad looking, with light green leaves, weak plants, and when flowering had only tiny tops at 8 weeks (2 grams per plant at harvest). He then tried switching to halogen lights with the next series of plants and the plants improved with growth, but then got burnt real bad. Then he finally took my advice and invested in a 400w HPS-MH convertable light and now HE IS IN HEAVEN. And he can buy bulbs for it at our local Menards (important to him).
Also, since he is still using those 4' lights to veg, I taught him how to LST to fill his plants out and make the top areas more even - which is important since his light source is only effective by being very close to the plant. He is really pleased on his latest girls in veg now cuz he has multiple tops at the top level and all are receiving better light. He will be happy in the near future when he has many top colas! If you need any info on how to do that, there is a multitude of info here in 420magazine as well as pictures in my 2009 grow.
Maybe you prefer to top tho to fill out your plants - that's an excellent method too! However, if you learn to FIM (F*** I Missed), it is almost like topping, accept you kindof just take PART of the top instead of the entire top. OldMedMan just put a video in his journal giving a demonstration. Search for his current grow and go to the end of his journal to find this video.
I researched a lot before starting in back in 2009... and then I invested in convertable HPS/MH: two 1000w (for a very large room to flower) and one 250w (to veg - also many CFLs in there). I am SOOOOO happy for those choices of mine. Yes, they put out heat... but they sure do grow huge, incredible colas. Check out my 2009 grow (approximately pages 35 and up) to see what kind of plants they grow. IMO, they are the absolute best lights to use for the best plant growth.
Your light choice is an important one. Hope this info helped!!! If you want to grow 4 plants at a time - I recommend a 600w, or at least a 400w.
Just my 2cents! I am sure glad to meet you and wish you GREAT SUCCESS with your grow! I will try real hard to stop back and check on your progress!!! It is SO GOOD TO MEET YOU!!!
LOVIES!!!
Hi Honey!
My little flower child.
so much for inspiring me to take fan leaves the other day! I have a few strains going that have a ton of fan leaves and it sure did open up the center. These strains certainly have plenty more fan leaves to use for their nutritional/growing needs. I wanted to do that on my outside girls this last year, but I had read it slows them down for a short bit and I already had to harvest early, so I didn't take any leaves. But the other day I went CRAZY taking leaves off my inside girls and they sure look BETTER for it. A lot more buds (that now you can actually SEE) have good light.
