1st Grow - Cheap Setup - Northern Lights

[Eyetim9]

Thanks for the info. If I went with earth juice orangics would/should I still add blood meal and or bone meal?

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[GreenMachinee]

You should limit the amount of leaves you pull off...ESPECIALLY IN THE BEGINNING... they are your plants factories... they make sugar to power the plant, WITHOUT THEM GROWTH SLOWS DOWN DRAMATICALLY.

 

[Eyetim9]

I agree Greenmachinee I was only taking off yellow leaves that came off real easy and really bad spotted leaves, even then I tried to let them start turning yellow.

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[Mr. Krip]

Thanks for the info. If I went with earth juice orangics would/should I still add blood meal and or bone meal?

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Earth Juice Organics has a full product line. Most formulas are 3-part formulas (you need to buy all three!) consisting of Grow, Bloom & Micro that are added in different ratios during the cycle. Some are two part formulas. Assuming you use a full spectrum from Earth Juice and not, for example, just the Grow formula, you won't need to add anything else (for NPK & micronutrients), although, other additives are available and may also be beneficial.

 

[Eyetim9]

awesome thanks for the info.

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[Eyetim9]

Houston we have a problem, fed them molasses and water yesterday and today all the fan leaves are yellow and spotted....Don't know what to do besides ease up on the dosage of molasses and keep on with fish and kelp, all I have. Don't have the funds for anymore nutrients at the moment.

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[Mr. Krip]

Can you upload pics of the plant with closeups of some affected leaves??? Also, what type of molasses are you using and, in what ratio did you mix it? And, do/did you raise the lights before you foliar feed (or do just before lights-off)???

 

[Mr. Krip]

FYI...since you haven't been giving nutrients, I would guess that it is NOT a toxicity issue. Neither the molasses nor the fish emulsion should cause a toxicity issue, even in fairly large quantities.

My GUESS (without seeing pics!) is one of the following:

1) Needs real nutes, as I had explained in an earlier post
2) Nutrient Lockout (Have you checked/adjusted PH???)
3) Light Burn - The water droplets from foliar feeding act like a magnifying glass and if the light is too close, will cause burns that look like spotting.
4) You should be using non-sulfured blackstrap molasses. It's possible, but not likely (I would bet on either #1 or #2, and most likely #2!), that you're using some "bad" brand of molasses with something causing a chemical burn.

 

[Eyetim9]

2 Days after molasses feed, I think it was an o.d. on molasses I messed up on the ratio this feed very bad.

I messed up... .

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[Eyetim9]

But that's Big Gal....

This is Runt...

Still bad on Runt in some places..

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[MetalPoet]

oh dear! I'm too new to this to help. Did you check ph like Mr krip said? Hang in there!

 

[Eyetim9]

I know my PH is high, been bringing it down some with apple cider vinegar and lime juice, but it goes back up, but this happened so fast...my whole grow I've had high PH levels.

I think it's nutrient lockout and calcium and nitrogen deficiency...

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[Mr. Krip]

I know my PH is high, been bringing it down some with apple cider vinegar and lime juice, but it goes back up, but this happened so fast...my whole grow I've had high PH levels.

I think it's nutrient lockout and calcium and nitrogen deficiency...

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I suspect PH also and, if you know it's high, you can get some Epsoma Soil Acidifier at one of the local garden centers (Homies, etc.). It's used for BlueBerries and other acid-loving plants. I think your vinegar and lime juice likely just get watered out. You can also add sulfur.

 

[Eyetim9]

I'll see if I can find that asap, I'm not working right now, so sometimes I got to wait a few for my plant needs.

Thanks for the info, appreciate it.

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[Eyetim9]

Family on town for the next few weeks, at my house, so my girls are going to receive a little less tlc now. Just fed them and defoliated...

Big Gal

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[Eyetim9]

Main cola from Big Gal, she is looking nice and fit.

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[Eyetim9]

Question..

Should I remove, these lower branches/small colas?

I can imagine that instead of the plant passing on some food to them they would feed the bigger colas.

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[Eyetim9]

well I went ahead and clipped the little branches, didn't want them using up what little nutrients I'm providing.

But since some had buds on them already and cause I am a confirmed stoner....I'm drying them...

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[MetalPoet]

I have been trying to find that out myself : is it better to remove poorly performing branches ... I think I would do just what you did... including the sample! Looks like you're getting close.... let us know how the samples are!

 

[Eyetim9]

I've read a few comments where they've suggested to trim off those weaker lower branches that seem like they won't get enough light to make good sized buds or that will just use up food supply.

So it sounds logical to do.

I've smoked one bowl so far, but the jar still smells like chlorophyll . It was a lite head high, doesn't seem too potent right now, hopefully within the next 4 weeks that should happen and with proper drying and curing.

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