Lyzardman's First Grow - NL#5 - Organic Soil - 3 Gallon Pot - 150W CFL - Dakine Nutes

[Lyzardman]

Re: Lyzardman's First Grow - NL#5 - Organic Soil - 3 Gallon Pot - 150W CFL - Dakine N

As of day 13 of flower bud sites exploding all over the place
First 3 are of Betty the NL#5, and the other 2 are each of the J1's Dotty and Veronica.
And if anyone looking at this has had any experience with growing gorilla glue please check out my Gorilla Glue grow link and help me out I think I may have let her get too big in veg. Worried about flower stretch.

 

[Lyzardman]

Re: Lyzardman's First Grow - NL#5 - Organic Soil - 3 Gallon Pot - 150W CFL - Dakine N

A little to update.
Day 16 of flower and the day after I feed with 100% week 3 flower nutes. Temps are swinging a little more than I would like( 68 at nights coldest points up to 84-85 during the day/light ons. If I am home by opening windows I can get it to about 82-83 (but I have to monitor constantly ) and now the two J1 girls are starting to look a little sickly. Soil Ph is good at top of soil but drops as you go down to a low point of 5.5ph. So my guess is ph problem locking out nutes. I plan to flush tomorrow right after lights on so they can dry throughout the day.
I anyone has any other thoughts please feel free to voice them. Any thoughts/help would be appreciated, as usual I will probably put this on the diagnosis forum as well to reach other gurus.
Thanks again.

 

[Lyzardman]

Re: Lyzardman's First Grow - NL#5 - Organic Soil - 3 Gallon Pot - 150W CFL - Dakine N

I recently changed my hours at work so now when I get home the lights in the flower tent are "supposed" to be off, but tonight I get home at 3 am and the lights are still on. So I freak out and turn them off (so total on time today so far is 16 hours) then I go to relax and smoke a bowl, about 30 min go by and I go to check temp in tent to see if I need to make any adjustments and guess what!? The lights are on so I double check the timer and the pin on the mechanical timer are all messed up. Some up, some down and some in between. The only thing I can think of is that the cat got back there and was playing with it. Light are off now and due to come on at 11 am

So the million dollar question is....How bad have I screwed this up. And what do I do now?
Back to old light cycle, and keep an eye out for hermies?

 

[STIHL LOGGER]

Re: Lyzardman's First Grow - NL#5 - Organic Soil - 3 Gallon Pot - 150W CFL - Dakine N

Damn kitty! Lolz tryin to get into the stash. Hope all is well my dude. Did ya locate the prob causing the rusted/ crisped leaves?

 

[Lyzardman]

Re: Lyzardman's First Grow - NL#5 - Organic Soil - 3 Gallon Pot - 150W CFL - Dakine N

I think it's a soil ph issue. I'm flushing as soon as lights come on. I don't think I fed those two enough to get all the excess salts and what not flushed out. You think I could flush with 1/4 nutes or should I just do Ph water?

 

[STIHL LOGGER]

Re: Lyzardman's First Grow - NL#5 - Organic Soil - 3 Gallon Pot - 150W CFL - Dakine N

Im not 100% sure that ph is your issue bud.. Is it mainly on lower growth? Has it progressed any or has it stayed secluded to certain parts? Id try watering thoroughly less often.. Give her a good soaking to flush the soil to kind of break up all of the undissolved stuff, and when you water/ feed again, put a pan under the pot to catch the run off so itll soak it back up. I think this will help achieve equilibrium in your soil.

 

[Lyzardman]

Re: Lyzardman's First Grow - NL#5 - Organic Soil - 3 Gallon Pot - 150W CFL - Dakine N

The 2 girls have been flushed. And now we wait and see. Another thing I thought about was they have been in 3gal pots for about 40 days so probably time to up pot as well which will happen as soon as I get some time.
But until then, here are a couple pics of the buds first pic is NL#5, second is J1

 

[paintedbudman]

Re: Lyzardman's First Grow - NL#5 - Organic Soil - 3 Gallon Pot - 150W CFL - Dakine N

If your plants are like mine were, you may be seeing the beginning of being root bound. I just finished a nirvana northern lights auto grow and started my plants in 3 gallon round plastic pots. I noticed some brown spots much like yours maybe 3-4 weeks into flowering. It progressively got worse and then the plants would literally droop horribly when i watered even moderately. I finally was reading and someone described my symptoms ---- a root bound plant. I re-potted in 5 gallon smart pots. When I pulled the plants out they were nothing but root balls with the roots spiraling around and around the pot. They recovered somewhat, but never quite as vibrant as they were before the spots showed up. If I were you I'd look to see how big of a rootball you might have. I might be way off base, but it doesn't hurt to check. BTW it is my understanding that a rootbound plant has similar nutrient uptake problems as a soil pH issue would show.

 

[Lyzardman]

Re: Lyzardman's First Grow - NL#5 - Organic Soil - 3 Gallon Pot - 150W CFL - Dakine N

That is what I'm thinking too. Because a day after flushing I am still seeing leaves continuing to get worse so they will all be reported tomorrow morning.

 

[Lyzardman]

Re: Lyzardman's First Grow - NL#5 - Organic Soil - 3 Gallon Pot - 150W CFL - Dakine N

All girls have been up potted to 10 gal pots in fox farm OF. And are doing fine. In fact Betty who was not having any problems has started to really build bud structure.
So here is a little flower day 22 porn....Enjoy!

 

[Lyzardman]

Re: Lyzardman's First Grow - NL#5 - Organic Soil - 3 Gallon Pot - 150W CFL - Dakine N

More good news today. I got my Haze seed order of Super Skunk Auto so this will be my first experience with auto flower strains. Any advice as to how strick I need to be on a lighting cycle and how strict do I need to be in dark periods? Needless to say that this is going to br interesting. And is a 3gal pot going to be big enough to finish in?

 

[STIHL LOGGER]

Re: Lyzardman's First Grow - NL#5 - Organic Soil - 3 Gallon Pot - 150W CFL - Dakine N

Lookin good brother! Most excellent on gettin the HAZE order in bud. Mine should be in with in the next week. As to the auto light cycle.. I vaguely remember them being recommended to be run on 20/4. I think im gonna run mine 24/0 for the 1st 3 weeks then give em some sleep time just before I up cup and run them 20/4 for the remainder.

 

[Lyzardman]

Re: Lyzardman's First Grow - NL#5 - Organic Soil - 3 Gallon Pot - 150W CFL - Dakine N

So I'm guessing that if u put it in my room and have it on a 16/8 or 18/6 it just going to be a pathetically small plant with minimal yield?

 

[STIHL LOGGER]

Re: Lyzardman's First Grow - NL#5 - Organic Soil - 3 Gallon Pot - 150W CFL - Dakine N

16/8-18/6 will work too brother. Im not too sure how much itll effect yield..

 

[paintedbudman]

Re: Lyzardman's First Grow - NL#5 - Organic Soil - 3 Gallon Pot - 150W CFL - Dakine N

My minimal experience and research tends to indicate 18/6 for most autoflowers is appropriate (although a few I've seen say 20/4, but few say 24/0 ..... several experienced growers have said to let them rest a bit every day and it would give you bigger plants and better yields. Light/dark cycling time isn't real important, but for some reason almost everything I have read says pick a cycle and stick with it for the entire grow. The plants in general don't respond well to change. If I were you I would start the auto's in the largest size pot you plan to use. Since autoflowers are genetically programmed to flower and bud based on "elapsed time" rather than light/dark times, you don't have time to allow the plant to recover from the transplant stress. For auto's repotting might end up stunting the plant or at least reducing the final yield. 3 Gallon pots are an absolute minimum, I'd go 5's straight off if it were me (i had to re pot my Northern lights autos from a 3 to 5 gallon pots in my last grow because they had become root bound and were getting progressively weaker, they never fully recovered from that. My current grow is AK48 started straight off in 5 gallon smart pots). Hope this helps!

BTW on what I've seen of your current grow!

 

[Lyzardman]

Re: Lyzardman's First Grow - NL#5 - Organic Soil - 3 Gallon Pot - 150W CFL - Dakine N

That is definitely a ton of first hand experience that I can work from
Thank you I think I will do an 18/6 and put it in a fiver.

 

[arteekay]

Re: Lyzardman's First Grow - NL#5 - Organic Soil - 3 Gallon Pot - 150W CFL - Dakine N

Lookin good brother! Most excellent on gettin the HAZE order in bud. Mine should be in with in the next week. As to the auto light cycle.. I vaguely remember them being recommended to be run on 20/4. I think im gonna run mine 24/0 for the 1st 3 weeks then give em some sleep time just before I up cup and run them 20/4 for the remainder.

Pretty much exactly what we did. The autos in my second grow journal didn't get any sleep for the first four weeks, then they moved to 18/6 to flower. I do a night cycle so it's easy to lower the temps for more dramatic color changes, some do less than 24/0 to save some power. 20/4 is, IMHO, the second most popular schedule for autos, with 24/0 being about equal with 12/12 when stuffed in with a photoperiod girl as the least used schedule.

So I'm guessing that if u put it in my room and have it on a 16/8 or 18/6 it just going to be a pathetically small plant with minimal yield?

Na, I pulled 21oz from 6 plants in a 4x4 on our first grow with a pair of Mars II 900s on 18/6.

My minimal experience and research tends to indicate 18/6 for most autoflowers is appropriate (although a few I've seen say 20/4, but few say 24/0 ..... several experienced growers have said to let them rest a bit every day and it would give you bigger plants and better yields. Light/dark cycling time isn't real important, but for some reason almost everything I have read says pick a cycle and stick with it for the entire grow. The plants in general don't respond well to change. If I were you I would start the auto's in the largest size pot you plan to use. Since autoflowers are genetically programmed to flower and bud based on "elapsed time" rather than light/dark times, you don't have time to allow the plant to recover from the transplant stress. For auto's repotting might end up stunting the plant or at least reducing the final yield. 3 Gallon pots are an absolute minimum, I'd go 5's straight off if it were me (i had to re pot my Northern lights autos from a 3 to 5 gallon pots in my last grow because they had become root bound and were getting progressively weaker, they never fully recovered from that. My current grow is AK48 started straight off in 5 gallon smart pots). Hope this helps!

BTW on what I've seen of your current grow!

Well said and echos my opinions almost exactly.

 

[Lyzardman]

Re: Lyzardman's First Grow - NL#5 - Organic Soil - 3 Gallon Pot - 150W CFL - Dakine N

Ok Bean 1 (Sensi Seed Super Skunk Auto) is in a cup if water...
And now I'm trying to decide if I want to start another journal for just the auto?! Ahhhhhh! Lol

 

[paintedbudman]

Re: Lyzardman's First Grow - NL#5 - Organic Soil - 3 Gallon Pot - 150W CFL - Dakine N

Lyzardman, no need to start a new journal unless you want to separate them. I read one grow log that was ongoing for over a year with autos. He just kept adding new plants when he harvested the mature autos. It was a little confusing though after a while for a newbie, never sure what was planted when. Fun chat, but not as easy to follow as separate ones would have been. Whatever you decide will be great. If you do start a new journal, I want to follow the new addition to the family. So make sure we all know where to read all about it. Good luck on the new baby in the house

 

[Lyzardman]

Re: Lyzardman's First Grow - NL#5 - Organic Soil - 3 Gallon Pot - 150W CFL - Dakine N

Seed sank today, she is now in a moist paper towel. Time for her to show me her "tap root"