DWC - MK Ultra - Multiple Strains Grow Journal

[greenthumbesg]

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My 2 bagseed seeds are most likely males im gonna flower a week longer to make sure but im probably not gonna use bagseeds anymore because i cant seem to get a female and this is my third one. Sorry the pics are so out of focus

My MK hasnt showed signs of sex yet but its a feminized seed so im not completely out of luck.

 

[greenthumbesg]

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today i cut both of the bagseeds they were both males. I have done 3 seeds so far and so far i have had all males so im going to stop growing bagseeds from now on. I still have the MK Ultra going on so now im gonna focus the light on that from now on. Its one week into flower and i have seen my first pre flower so i know I'm gonna start adding between 500-600ppm jungle juice micro,grow,bloom and i added 5ml cannazym. That's pretty much it for now. I'm gonna take picks in a couple of days.

 

[greenthumbesg]

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The clone i toke from a male (it was a test to see if i could do it) 2 weeks ago it make roots pretty fast. Im amazed at how little effort it toke to do. I used only a cup, netpot, rockwool cube, and plastic container, w/ a 45watt cfl on 24/7. Not bad!

Here's some other pic's of the males i cut.

These are the leaves from one of the two males i think it was suffering from some sort of deficiency but im not that experienced so i dont know exactly what it is if some one knows feel free to leave me some info. Thanks

Heres the lights and exhaust fan im using it has made a big difference and im doing a ok job at controlling my temps

Thanks for viewing.

 

[prokiller420]

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nice little setup

 

[IneedTHISplz]

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Nice! We now have similar grow araes.... Looking at how your light and fan are setup. I just threw mine together to see, using the dual arc bulb with a shop light lower to help with blue, i have fl light waitin at post office. My question is simply if i have no balllast to run fan out of, or to push/pull air through just hook it up to push out heat from the cfl? I have a 10" desk fan atop sucking air out of the top right back side opening and reflector with fan and ducting straight thru. I stepped on thermometer while moving so to the store i go.....

 

[greenthumbesg]

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nice little setup

Thanks Prokiller 420 i've come a long way from soil in a pc grow box lol

 

[greenthumbesg]

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Nice! We now have similar grow araes.... Looking at how your light and fan are setup. I just threw mine together to see, using the dual arc bulb with a shop light lower to help with blue, i have fl light waitin at post office. My question is simply if i have no balllast to run fan out of, or to push/pull air through just hook it up to push out heat from the cfl? I have a 10" desk fan atop sucking air out of the top right back side opening and reflector with fan and ducting straight thru. I stepped on thermometer while moving so to the store i go.....

Thats good to hear that we have almost the same set up so i know im doing something right. As for the ducting i saw a diagram that shows the exhaust ducting w/ the fan at the top of the tent/room then venting to a high hole or window. Ill try to find a pic of it and post it. Me personally i have mine at the top of my tent and the duct goes out one of the vent holes at the top.

 

[greenthumbesg]

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hey IneedTHISplz here's the fan layout i found its pretty easy to understand and should answer your question. Good luck!

Happy New Year Everyone!!!

 

[greenthumbesg]

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Ok finally heres a pic of the MK in week one of flower so far only a couple of pistils to small for my phone to get but i measured it today and it stands at 12'' so i did an ok job. I have some burnt leaves that are drying out i dont know if this is because of my lights or because of some kind of nut deficiency. Im sure its not a huge issue but let me know what you guys think.

Since i started using the jungle juice im seeing that the ppms is stable(but that might just be because i only have one plant in my res). Also the cannazym is pretty great and it allows me to sleep at night without constantly having to worry about changing out the res(i now change out the res every 2 weeks).

 

[greenthumbesg]

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Sorry for re posting the same question but i haven't had much luck getting info on this so bear with me. My ppm has been raising by 30+ every 6hrs or so. My question is should i be worried that my ppm is raising or is that normal especially since I'm in flower now shouldn't my plant be taking up nuts more that water. I don't know I'm gonna keep doing research on it until i find the answer but until then leave your comments.

 

[Xlr8]

Sorry for re posting the same question but i haven't had much luck getting info on this so bear with me. My ppm has been raising by 30+ every 6hrs or so. My question is should i be worried that my ppm is raising or is that normal especially since I'm in flower now shouldn't my plant be taking up nuts more that water. I don't know I'm gonna keep doing research on it until i find the answer but until then leave your comments.

Hi Greenthumb-

Sometimes they take in more water than nutrients, temps and humidity can play a role in this. Make sure you "top off" your reservoir with straight up water, daily if needed, in order to keep the nutrient mix from becoming too strong.

 

[Xlr8]

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Read your journal from the beginning. You're doing great! there's a lot to learn, huh? . Here are some goals for creating an ideal environment, and some general hydro tips. Hope you don't mind!:

Temps: 75-80f at canopy level
RH (relative humidity): under 60% in bloom. Under 50% better, under 40% best.

reservoir temps: under 70f. Under 67f=better. This is fairly important in DWC, as temps above 70f can cause brown slimy roots and really stress or kill a plant in hydro. There are products like "Zone" by Dutch Master nutrients that can really help prevent issues due to a warm reservoir, but it's good to avoid high res temps regardless. A root zone conditioning product (like Zone) should be given serious consideration, especially if res temps are warm.

PH - set it around 5.5, and let it drift up to 6.2 before adjusting down again. A healthy res should have a gradual PH climb. Change your res weekly. Never try to keep PH pinned to a specific number (ie 5.8), but do keep it within the range I gave.

Have fun, you are doing great so far!

 

[greenthumbesg]

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Read your journal from the beginning. You're doing great! there's a lot to learn, huh? . Here are some goals for creating an ideal environment, and some general hydro tips. Hope you don't mind!:

Temps: 75-80f at canopy level
RH (relative humidity): under 60% in bloom. Under 50% better, under 40% best.

reservoir temps: under 70f. Under 67f=better. This is fairly important in DWC, as temps above 70f can cause brown slimy roots and really stress or kill a plant in hydro. There are products like "Zone" by Dutch Master nutrients that can really help prevent issues due to a warm reservoir, but it's good to avoid high res temps regardless. A root zone conditioning product (like Zone) should be given serious consideration, especially if res temps are warm.

PH - set it around 5.5, and let it drift up to 6.2 before adjusting down again. A healthy res should have a gradual PH climb. Change your res weekly. Never try to keep PH pinned to a specific number (ie 5.8), but do keep it within the range I gave.

Have fun, you are doing great so far!

Thanks a bunch i have been keeping my temps relatively high about 80 so im gonna put a bottle of frozen water into the res. i havnt been changing my res weekly since i live w/ my folks. Im gonna change it later on tonight or tomorrow. I have always had a big problem with brown roots since started growing DWC so hopefully this will help. Thanks Xlr8 for the tips.

 

[greenthumbesg]

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I changed out my res last night and I'm now using micro&bloom my ppm after the change is 800ppm I've had some problems with my temps the past couple if days (80-85) so I lowered down the exhaust fan and the temps when down a bit. I'm thinking about changing the side the duct is on and making it a intake, but I'm not sure. I'm thinking I need a filter first so I don't end up w/ any bugs in the tent.

 

[greenthumbesg]

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Been busy stoned so i didnt post anything plus nothing has really changed. I raised the ppm and im starting to see a lot of white pistils and at about 8 different sites. Ill post a pic soon so you guys can see. Even though i had those two males and the MK was a lot smaller the Mk is now at a staggering 15 inchs ok 14 but who counting. Thanks for all the help so far its been great speed was amazing.

Gotta smoke Fed Dreams

 

[Lurch Farmer]

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great job your doin with them girls.
Just wondering if you filter your water

 

[Xlr8]

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Still here, sounds like things are going well! Frozen water bottles can be a great low-budget way to keep your res. cool.

 

[greenthumbesg]

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I dont filter my water the reg tap water i use is between 25-40 ppm right out of the tap, so its cool. About the frozen water bottles i tried putting one into my res and it wouldn't stay at the bottom of my res. I use cannazym so it allows for a later higher temps. Lurch Farmer and Xlar8 thanks for the comments and info and thanks to everyone who checked out this forum.

Right now my girl is doing great i feel good about her and she is looking amazing especially for week about 3. Im amazed at how much the plant has grown over the past 3 weeks thanks for the help. I'll post some pic's soon just to give you guys an idea of whats going on.

 

[greenthumbesg]

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heres something i checked out recently i thought some people might find it interesting

Many scientific studies have been done regarding the effects of music on plants. The simple answer is that past studies have suggested hard rock or heavy metal music seems to have a detrimental effect on plant growth.

There is a well-known study from the early 1970s, conducted by Dorothy Retallack at the Colorado Woman's College in Denver using the college's three Biotronic Control Chambers. In one series of studies, the tone of F sound was played daily for three hours a day, intermittently in one laboratory, it was played for eight hours a day, constantly, and the control group had no sound introduced. Those plants where the F tone was played intermittingly for 3 hours a day grew twice as large and were twice as healthy as those in a sound-free environment. However, plants in the laboratory where the tone of Fconstantly for 8 hours daily died within two weeks of the experiment's beginning. Dorothy used a growing chamber, a variety of plant species (but the same in each chamber) and made sure the volume was consistent for all forms of music.

Different types of music were then utilized in her following experiments. She tried acid rock music by Led Zeppelin, Vanilla Fudge, and Hendrix. It was played to one group of plants and semi-pop music (of the 1970's) to another. The "acid rock music" plants were sickly and small compared to the control group of "semi popular" music (now termed soft rock).

The other genres of music she experimented with: were classical music (Debussy), jazz (she use Louis Armstrong among others), and Indian (Ravi Shankar). The plants grew large and healthy, with the plants actually growing towards the radio for each of these three forms of music, just like they bend towards sunlight. Dorothy also experimented with country music (such as Jonny Cash) and found they neither grew toward or away from the speakers and seemed neutral. While Dorothy did have a personal bias and by the end of her research she believed plants could feel and were capable of ESP. She felt perhaps it was the lyrics that the plants didn't like with the acid rock music.

It seems the plants like all types of music, except hard, pounding rhythms, but prefer stringed instruments the most. They also didn't like a constant tone played for 8 hours per day, but how many of us do!

Effective experiments need to involve the following factors, which Dorothy tried to maintain, but failed to measure the water and soil moisture with an accurate device:

the same plant types across the different conditions
a variety of species across the different conditions
music volume would need to be maintained at a consistent level
strict controls on all other external factors, e.g. light, warmth, etc
consistency of human interaction across the different conditions


Answer 2: MYTHBUSTERS

Mythbusters have come up with a different result. Their experiments suggested that heavy metal seems to stimulate growth more than other types of music. The culprit is likely the rapid vibration that encourages activity. Perhaps these results could be pursued by searching the Mythbusters website on Discoverychannel.

Answer 3: SMALL SCALE EXPERIMENTS
The effect is the same as random noise, i.e. just the physical stress of sound. Music as such has no effect because:

1) Plants are not intelligent. In fact, they don't have a central nervous system. Music can only affect you if you understand it, and plants can't understand anything.

2) Plants have no auditory organs. They can't hear any more than you could hear through your skin if you had no ears.

If you look this up on the net, you'll see plenty of small scale experiments with positive results. Unfortunately, these experiments are fatally flawed in several ways. First, they are typically done with just 3 or 4 plants, and with such a small sample size any difference is likely to be from random chance. Second, and perhaps more importantly, the control is silent when it should be random noise with the same frequency spectrum and periodicity as the music. This is the only way to test the effects of music as such, not just the effects of sound. When the experiment is done with a good sample size (thousands of plants) and controlled properly, the results may well be negative.

Answer 4: TRY EXPERIMENTS YOURSELF
"I tried experimenting myself. After 4 week of experimenting, the following were the results. I observed that the one that was in the best condition was the plant that was in the room with classical music. It grew in the range of 9-16 degrees away from the CD Player. The second best plant was the one in the room with no music. It grew from the range of 11-15 degrees away from the CD Player. The one that didn't do so well was the one in the room with rock music. It grew from the range of 33-85 degrees away from the CD Player. "
Answer 5: CLASSICAL MUSIC

Many people swear by Classical music, which is used in some professional greenhouses to stimulate plant growth. In the book, "The Secret Life of Plants," the results of exposure to various types of music on houseplants is explored, among other fascinating plant experiments.

Answer 6: HUMAN VS PLANTS
The effect of music on plants is drastic. It is found that music stimulates the brain, but it depends what kind of music. For example the high frequency of mechanical waves that run hand in hand with rap and acid rock are damaging to the plant.

Some studies have indicated that they do indeed germinate and grow faster and healthier when exposed to Classical music.

Soft classic music or sounds of nature, water or birds Answer Myth Busters actually did an experiment to see if it is true that music has an affect on plant growth. They set up several experiments using different types of music and no music. All plants were growing in the same conditions expect for different types of music. Believe it or not, the ones in the greenhouse with heavy metal grew the best.

 

[greenthumbesg]

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hey she is now 18'' and its the 4th week in flower. I was wondering if most people count the weeks of flowering from the time they show the first signs of flower or from the moment you switch the lights to 12/12. I added about 10ml of cannazym and some bloom and micro of the jungle juice. Its making my plants look really great and compared to my last grow this one should come up with some really good buds.
Im gonna come clean i have done about 4-5 grows in the past the have all turned out to be males or small yield. So i guess what im saying is thanks for the help couldnt have gotten here w/out u guys.