trini trees
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Can a indoor plant really yield 400-600g per grow?
Yield?
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Yes if you veg a plant long enough it can yield pounds if you have the light and the room.
Stormblessed
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Definitely can get pounds per grow, well not me but some people can lol just gotta use the right technique and keep everything dialed in, I just checked out a journal that they got 19oz off one plant
Stormblessed
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Day 1 We will call it day 1. Ill throw the only pic I have. Babysitting my sisters pepper plants and Tomatoe plants. They’ll be gone tomorrow The Germinator.
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@Stltoed got about 26 ounces off his Wembley plant.
It sure can but the reality is those numbers are for an experienced grower. A first timer can get lucky tho..... but kinda like the old saying don’t count you chicks until the eggs hatch. Don’t count your grams until the plant is chopped and cured
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trini trees
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you serious? wtf lmao
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trini trees
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very true
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trini trees
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i really appreciate the love and feed back you guys/ladies (not sure) are giving me
Yes totally serious!
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trini trees
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what are those brown balls?
Stltoed
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Hey Bean! My ears were burnin. I'm honored you mentioned me thanks
Check this out.
If you're growing from seed you can have the best of everything and still wind up with small yields if your genetics aren't right. Even then it will take something Jorge Cervantes calls a " super seed" to get unusually large weights. You just need to make sure the environment, lights, and all the little stuff is dialed in to give the plant what it needs so it can do its thing.
You need to be ready to grow big plants. If you run out of room your plant will suffer. A solid knowledge of super cropping is important. Yoyos for the last few weeks is a good idea. Less nutrients is always better than more. You can completely shutdown flower if your pH gets out of hand or you simply overload you P-K at the end. Watch your pH even in soil. While its popular to say a properly manufactured soil will take care pH all by itself it really only works well pushing slightly acidic conditions back toward a higher number.
I was having a conversation with someone the other day who stated a nutrient solution with Silica that has a pH of 11 is OK to add to soil. PH is a logarithmic scale. So a pH of 6 is 10 times stronger than 5. 7 is 100 times stronger, 8 is 1000 times stronger, 11 is 1,000,000 times stronger than 5 on the pH scale. Its the same as ammonia... he believes the soil can fix that... and fix it faster than it destroys the root system please be aware of what you're adding to your plants, and learn how to adjust the pH before adding it if needed. If your nutrient pH is 7 or 8 lime will be fine to sort out the pH. Dolomite lime is a wonderful thing, but it can't easily fix such huge issues. Silica is probably the only additive that would cause a pH of 11, and even then only a couple potassium based products you shouldnt use anyway... but if you never check your pH you would never know as you fed your plant a caustic solution every week... know what youre giving your plants. Sorry for the rant. This situation is just so ridiculous.
Grow in RDWC hydro. Its widely thought of as the most productive grow method. Everyone has their own opinion on this of course. Ive grown plants over a pound more than once in RDWC. I believe this method is the easiest way to see the plants potential as soon as possible.
Use Silica. Don't bother with any Potassium based products. Only use products derived from monosilicic acid. The Potassium Silicate molecule is a chain and basically doesn't fit where it needs to in the plant. Monosilicic acid is a single molecule and goes right in. Theres a ton more to this, i can elaborate if you guys have questions. Silica is the coolest element we use in my opinion. Its not a macro nutrient, but it does so many things sone say its much more than a micro nute. If you dont know about Silica its worth your time to read about it. Again, if you have questions...
Genetics... you aren't gonna grow a 2 pound Grinspoon plant. Its just not in its DNA. Strains like Northern Lights, Big Bud, Industrial, Moby Dick all have the meat and potatoes to grow big ass colas. If you vegged for 2 months, you nutrients are right, your using Silica, your hydro rig is right and you have plenty of air in the water, your environment is good, and you have the correct genetics with a seed that has a cape with a big S on it, its easy to go over a pound.
My last big plant did 26oz, 737gm if I did my math right. The strain was Wembley from Pyramid seeds, its a sister to King Tut. I had 5 plants and got about 50oz total. The strain clearly had the capacity to grow big, but one seed had the "S" was swinging from the fences from day one. When the branches reached 62 inches i got really worried, but it worked out.
This is an example of how seeds can can suck... in one 17 gallon pot I have a plant that did 26oz. Right next to it (same pot) the plant never found second gear and only did 2oz. No nutrient, light, PGR, animal sacrifice will ever change the fact the little plant will always be a little plant.
The big plant grew really ugly. Huge buds, but just a lanky beast. It kinda took the fun out of it for me. And it didn't look like 26oz. Here are some pictures of that plant and the rest from that season. You will see a smaller plant in a smaller room. Its a wembley in soil. It did 10oz
Check this out.
3 Pound indoor Autoflower: world's largest indoor yield
This is not just the largest yielding autoflower ever grown but the largest indoor yielding planet, ever, to my knowledge. If anyone has a documented grow of a larger yielding indoor grown plant, please link to it. Also, if you know of a larger yielding autoflower, please link to the documented...
www.420magazine.com
If you're growing from seed you can have the best of everything and still wind up with small yields if your genetics aren't right. Even then it will take something Jorge Cervantes calls a " super seed" to get unusually large weights. You just need to make sure the environment, lights, and all the little stuff is dialed in to give the plant what it needs so it can do its thing.
You need to be ready to grow big plants. If you run out of room your plant will suffer. A solid knowledge of super cropping is important. Yoyos for the last few weeks is a good idea. Less nutrients is always better than more. You can completely shutdown flower if your pH gets out of hand or you simply overload you P-K at the end. Watch your pH even in soil. While its popular to say a properly manufactured soil will take care pH all by itself it really only works well pushing slightly acidic conditions back toward a higher number.
I was having a conversation with someone the other day who stated a nutrient solution with Silica that has a pH of 11 is OK to add to soil. PH is a logarithmic scale. So a pH of 6 is 10 times stronger than 5. 7 is 100 times stronger, 8 is 1000 times stronger, 11 is 1,000,000 times stronger than 5 on the pH scale. Its the same as ammonia... he believes the soil can fix that... and fix it faster than it destroys the root system please be aware of what you're adding to your plants, and learn how to adjust the pH before adding it if needed. If your nutrient pH is 7 or 8 lime will be fine to sort out the pH. Dolomite lime is a wonderful thing, but it can't easily fix such huge issues. Silica is probably the only additive that would cause a pH of 11, and even then only a couple potassium based products you shouldnt use anyway... but if you never check your pH you would never know as you fed your plant a caustic solution every week... know what youre giving your plants. Sorry for the rant. This situation is just so ridiculous.
Grow in RDWC hydro. Its widely thought of as the most productive grow method. Everyone has their own opinion on this of course. Ive grown plants over a pound more than once in RDWC. I believe this method is the easiest way to see the plants potential as soon as possible.
Use Silica. Don't bother with any Potassium based products. Only use products derived from monosilicic acid. The Potassium Silicate molecule is a chain and basically doesn't fit where it needs to in the plant. Monosilicic acid is a single molecule and goes right in. Theres a ton more to this, i can elaborate if you guys have questions. Silica is the coolest element we use in my opinion. Its not a macro nutrient, but it does so many things sone say its much more than a micro nute. If you dont know about Silica its worth your time to read about it. Again, if you have questions...
Genetics... you aren't gonna grow a 2 pound Grinspoon plant. Its just not in its DNA. Strains like Northern Lights, Big Bud, Industrial, Moby Dick all have the meat and potatoes to grow big ass colas. If you vegged for 2 months, you nutrients are right, your using Silica, your hydro rig is right and you have plenty of air in the water, your environment is good, and you have the correct genetics with a seed that has a cape with a big S on it, its easy to go over a pound.
My last big plant did 26oz, 737gm if I did my math right. The strain was Wembley from Pyramid seeds, its a sister to King Tut. I had 5 plants and got about 50oz total. The strain clearly had the capacity to grow big, but one seed had the "S" was swinging from the fences from day one. When the branches reached 62 inches i got really worried, but it worked out.
This is an example of how seeds can can suck... in one 17 gallon pot I have a plant that did 26oz. Right next to it (same pot) the plant never found second gear and only did 2oz. No nutrient, light, PGR, animal sacrifice will ever change the fact the little plant will always be a little plant.
The big plant grew really ugly. Huge buds, but just a lanky beast. It kinda took the fun out of it for me. And it didn't look like 26oz. Here are some pictures of that plant and the rest from that season. You will see a smaller plant in a smaller room. Its a wembley in soil. It did 10oz
Stormblessed
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Hydroton, it’s a grow medium used for hydroponics
Nunyabiz
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Need space and time.
I only have 2x5x9 space to grow in.
Usually vegging for about 8 weeks completely fills that space up.
I can squeeze about 60 buds in there like french fries and depending on average bud size I usually get between 17 to 19oz.
Which is only 8.5 to 9.5oz per plant.
If it were one plant would take at least 10 weeks veg to fill that space.
That averages I think around 8 to 10 grams of dried and cured per bud.
So for me to get one plant to get about 18 oz would mean about 55 colas to fill a 2x5 space averaging about 9 to 10 grams per bud dried and cured.
That would take I am sure at least 10 to 11 weeks.
I can fill that space with two plants though in about 7 to 8 weeks.
And you need as close to an average of 700-900 PPFD across the whole canopy as possible.
I only have 2x5x9 space to grow in.
Usually vegging for about 8 weeks completely fills that space up.
I can squeeze about 60 buds in there like french fries and depending on average bud size I usually get between 17 to 19oz.
Which is only 8.5 to 9.5oz per plant.
If it were one plant would take at least 10 weeks veg to fill that space.
That averages I think around 8 to 10 grams of dried and cured per bud.
So for me to get one plant to get about 18 oz would mean about 55 colas to fill a 2x5 space averaging about 9 to 10 grams per bud dried and cured.
That would take I am sure at least 10 to 11 weeks.
I can fill that space with two plants though in about 7 to 8 weeks.
And you need as close to an average of 700-900 PPFD across the whole canopy as possible.
Stltoed
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Do you grow the same strain everytime?
DakiniKush
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Do you use straight Solica or can u tell me the products you use with it?Hey Bean! My ears were burnin. I'm honored you mentioned me thanks
Check this out.
3 Pound indoor Autoflower: world's largest indoor yield
This is not just the largest yielding autoflower ever grown but the largest indoor yielding planet, ever, to my knowledge. If anyone has a documented grow of a larger yielding indoor grown plant, please link to it. Also, if you know of a larger yielding autoflower, please link to the documented...www.420magazine.com
If you're growing from seed you can have the best of everything and still wind up with small yields if your genetics aren't right. Even then it will take something Jorge Cervantes calls a " super seed" to get unusually large weights. You just need to make sure the environment, lights, and all the little stuff is dialed in to give the plant what it needs so it can do its thing.
You need to be ready to grow big plants. If you run out of room your plant will suffer. A solid knowledge of super cropping is important. Yoyos for the last few weeks is a good idea. Less nutrients is always better than more. You can completely shutdown flower if your pH gets out of hand or you simply overload you P-K at the end. Watch your pH even in soil. While its popular to say a properly manufactured soil will take care pH all by itself it really only works well pushing slightly acidic conditions back toward a higher number.
I was having a conversation with someone the other day who stated a nutrient solution with Silica that has a pH of 11 is OK to add to soil. PH is a logarithmic scale. So a pH of 6 is 10 times stronger than 5. 7 is 100 times stronger, 8 is 1000 times stronger, 11 is 1,000,000 times stronger than 5 on the pH scale. Its the same as ammonia... he believes the soil can fix that... and fix it faster than it destroys the root system please be aware of what you're adding to your plants, and learn how to adjust the pH before adding it if needed. If your nutrient pH is 7 or 8 lime will be fine to sort out the pH. Dolomite lime is a wonderful thing, but it can't easily fix such huge issues. Silica is probably the only additive that would cause a pH of 11, and even then only a couple potassium based products you shouldnt use anyway... but if you never check your pH you would never know as you fed your plant a caustic solution every week... know what youre giving your plants. Sorry for the rant. This situation is just so ridiculous.
Grow in RDWC hydro. Its widely thought of as the most productive grow method. Everyone has their own opinion on this of course. Ive grown plants over a pound more than once in RDWC. I believe this method is the easiest way to see the plants potential as soon as possible.
Use Silica. Don't bother with any Potassium based products. Only use products derived from monosilicic acid. The Potassium Silicate molecule is a chain and basically doesn't fit where it needs to in the plant. Monosilicic acid is a single molecule and goes right in. Theres a ton more to this, i can elaborate if you guys have questions. Silica is the coolest element we use in my opinion. Its not a macro nutrient, but it does so many things sone say its much more than a micro nute. If you dont know about Silica its worth your time to read about it. Again, if you have questions...
Genetics... you aren't gonna grow a 2 pound Grinspoon plant. Its just not in its DNA. Strains like Northern Lights, Big Bud, Industrial, Moby Dick all have the meat and potatoes to grow big ass colas. If you vegged for 2 months, you nutrients are right, your using Silica, your hydro rig is right and you have plenty of air in the water, your environment is good, and you have the correct genetics with a seed that has a cape with a big S on it, its easy to go over a pound.
My last big plant did 26oz, 737gm if I did my math right. The strain was Wembley from Pyramid seeds, its a sister to King Tut. I had 5 plants and got about 50oz total. The strain clearly had the capacity to grow big, but one seed had the "S" was swinging from the fences from day one. When the branches reached 62 inches i got really worried, but it worked out.
This is an example of how seeds can can suck... in one 17 gallon pot I have a plant that did 26oz. Right next to it (same pot) the plant never found second gear and only did 2oz. No nutrient, light, PGR, animal sacrifice will ever change the fact the little plant will always be a little plant.
The big plant grew really ugly. Huge buds, but just a lanky beast. It kinda took the fun out of it for me. And it didn't look like 26oz. Here are some pictures of that plant and the rest from that season. You will see a smaller plant in a smaller room. Its a wembley in soil. It did 10oz
Stltoed
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Unfortunately, 90% of the Silica thats out there is comes from Potassium. As i stated this particular molecule is arranged in a chain, which makes the bioavailability a real problem. It WILL breakdown to smaller molecules over time but thats a problem for us.... we don't have that kind of time. By the time the Silica is broken down a little we are pulling our plants. So Silica from Potassium Silicate works just fine on roses and things with a life span but its very slow. This form of Silica is also very unstable. In hydro pH swings can be great and last quite a while. The shelf life of these products is also very irratic. We don't know how long this shit has been around so we really don't know if its any good. There is a way to use Potassium Silicate though, that is with foliar feeding. The plants take in nutrients in a different way and will work with a spray. But that would have to end come flower.
I like Fasilitor from Aptos, and Power Si. These are both designed for hydro and have some micro metals to help stability. Ive used them in soil with some success... the 10oz plant i posted in the pictures was one.
The problem with these products is they are probably the most expensive additives out there. Fasilitor was almost $80 for 100ml last i looked. Powet Si is less expensive, but still spendy, and they have 1 for veg and 1 for bloom which doesn't help.
Since they are properly engineered you need very little to get the job done. Power Si is .5ml per gallon opposed to as much as 10ml of the Potassium counterpart.
So find the least expensive Silica product made from monosilicic acid. Dont bother with anything with Potassium silicate unless your feeding a perennial plant that has the bacterial fortitude in the soil to breakdown Silica as needed. They are becoming more popular. Im afraid I dont have a rock solid recommendation for you. I love the 2 I use, but thier price point make them a deal breaker for most...
Vegan4life
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Usually when a seed seller says 450 grams or 600 grams indoors they are stating for a 3' x 3' space. Last year I harvested over 22 ounces cured bud in a 3' x 3' tent with 4 plants. About 5- 6 weeks veg time. I'm sure I could do the same with one plant with a longer veg time.
Stltoed
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Those breeder numbers are also usually regarding an SOG grow method which may actually mean more than 36 plants. Not a lot of people have the means or can legally grow that many plants... just FYI
Vegan4life
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I usually do 4 plant SCROG. SOG is usually done with clones
