Hmiller6511
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I have a feeling something is wrong here. I appreciate everyone’s advice. The plants have been doing very well to this point but it seems like they’ve stopped growing and leaves are wilting
Wilted leaves
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Hmiller6511
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Closer looks
It looks like a nitrogen toxicity in one of the pics.Closer looks
How much are you feeding?
How often?
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I have a question, what is a highly recommended medium for growing indoors ? I used miracle grow top soil last time.
4our8ighty0
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Sheesh that tiny pot absolutely causing issues ? Is that a 1 gal ? For such a big girl !! Ok so does pot have holes in bottom ? How many? What stage of flower ? What you feeding it ? I'm seeing too much N and what looks like a oxygen issue cuz of small pot. Does it curl and claw worse after you water or feed ?
Fox farms soil is popular.
I prefer coco coir.
I can give my girls what they need when they need it.
Never have an issue.
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Bill284
Is it possible that you are seeing the end of the stretch phase of the flowering. At this point the plant pretty much does not get a lot taller but instead is concentrating on producing larger buds with more stigma/pistils. Also the plant will not grow new fan leaves after the stretch except for a few smaller 3-finger ones mixed in with the sugar leaves.
The overall plant can look like it has stopped growing but there are more buds being produced or the buds already there are getting larger.
Some have brought up nitrogen excess. It will help if you can turn off all the grow lights and just use the normal white ceiling or lamp lights and the camera flash when taking the photos. This will give a better idea of the real color of any of the leaves and help figure out if there is a nitrogen problem.
Most likely the All Purpose Plant Food in your photograph has an NPK of 12-4-8. While the Phosphorous and Potassium amounts are good the Nitrogen is a bit high at this stage.
Good point but I think that the pot is larger than a gallon. There is a 1 gallon milk or water jug behind it.
Looks like it might be a blue plastic 5 gallon bucket that is filled to about half to 3/4 of the way.
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Hmiller6511
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Thank you to everyone for your constructive criticism and advice to my questions. This is my first time growing. I know there’s a lot to learn and do better next time. I honestly didn’t expect them to do as good as they have considering the fact that I don’t have a green thumb, lol. It amazes me at the scientific aspect of growing which is why I love this forum having access to so many people with so much knowledge is priceless. So I’ll answer a couple questions that came up; yes these are two five gallon buckets, yes the buckets are only half full of medium which is miracle grow top soil. I have recently stopped watering every day also no longer using miracle grow along with bud bloom for feeding I’m only using bud bloom now I will begin to flush once the trichs starting turning amber. Open to suggestions on that one, lol also yes I do believe the girls are coming to the final stretch and the plants are concentrating on flowering which is why it looks like they stopped growing. I was definitely overwatering and not enough medium for the roots and also the room temperature was too cold. Any other suggestions or advise is always welcome and once again thank you for your knowledge
Optional pot temp is 18c.
I’ve seen people use heat mats with a stat to keep the pot warm.
I don’t flush at the end of Flower.
It’s been proven detrimental to bud development.
I feed until I turn the lights out for 24hrs before chop.
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Bill284
Miracle grow has a couple different soils, some have nutes for up to 4 months added already, if that is the case, you're overfeeding them. You've got some serious clawing in the one pic. Back off on the nutes.
A 5 gallon bucket that is half full is 2 and 1/2 gallons of soil. That is not much for a plant that size. Don't get me wrong but yes, a great plant can be grown in that small amount of soil but it means more planning of the feeding schedule is needed for any kind of decent results. Next time fill the buckets up to within an inch of the rim and tamp the soil down.
Keep in mind that even though the plant is no longer growing taller that once it starts to flower it is still growing new flowers. It still needs water, often more than it did during the last week of the vegetation stage. Many growers will wait until the plant actually stops taking in water as a way to know that they are about 4-5 days away from harvest.
The nitrogen amounts in the Miracle-Gro are high for a Cannabis plant in flower but the phosphorous and potassium numbers are good. Your "Bloom" fertilizer is part of a 8 to 10 part feeding schedule that changes amounts on a weekly basis. I am not recommending that you buy the rest of them at this point.
For one thing this particular fertilizer looks like it is for hydroponics and the company worked up amounts, etc for those growing in soil. Nothing wrong with doing that except it is harder for those new to growing Cannabis to fine-tune the feeding.
Flushing is not for those growing in soil. It is recommend for those growing with a hydroponic grow medium like a coco or a peat moss dominant mix. Since you are in soil there is no need to go through the hassle and mess of flushing,
I think that you are about 4 weeks away from a harvest at a minimum. Did you make a note of when the flowering started or when the light schedule was changed?
4our8ighty0
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Yea smoking wings right,miracle grow fert is very heavy w nitrogen,the plant does look like nitrogen toxicity could be a part of the issue? The plant does stop vertical growth at week 2 or 3 of flower but it actually does more growing,drinking n feeding once flower kicks in,it needs more light as well. Do you have bloom nutes w/out nitrogen ?
