Wilted leaves

[Hmiller6511]

Is it normal for my leaves to look wilted 5weeks into flowering stage?

 

[Doctor Trevor]

Too much nitrogen?

 

[Sativa1970]

Too much N, temp, RH and over watering can all cause this.

Dark pink for seedlings, green for veg/early flower, orange for full flower.

 

[Roy Growin]

Looks to me like too much water and feed causing the droop and claw

 

[Sativa1970]

The amount of food and water the plant needs is directly related to temp and humidity. The right amount of food at 80deg is over feeding at 70deg. The right amount of water at 45RH is over watering at 80RH. You need to verify temp and RH are correct before adjusting food and water. Correcting diet to fit the wrong environment just creates new problems.

 

[Hmiller6511]

The amount of food and water the plant needs is directly related to temp and humidity. The right amount of food at 80deg is over feeding at 70deg. The right amount of water at 45RH is over watering at 80RH. You need to verify temp and RH are correct before adjusting food and water. Correcting diet to fit the wrong environment just creates new problems.

Thank you for the advice, I’m growing in my bedroom with old school grow light. The room temperature is 70 degrees, not sure about humidity but I’m sure it’s low. I’m using suggested dosage per gallon of miracle grow and suggested dosage of bud bloom with water in gallon milk jugs. I water each morning as soon as I turn the grow light on and giving them 12 hours of light. Im kinda growing like a Neanderthal but I’ll get more scientific as I go but based on what I’ve said any other advise you may have I greatly appreciate

 

[Azimuth]

. I water each morning as soon as I turn the grow light on and giving them 12 hours of light.

That's probably a big part of your problem. You should not be watering on a schedule but rather when then plant calls for it.

Try lifting the pot first thing and give it water only when the pot starts to feel light.

 

[Gee64]

Too much N, temp, RH and over watering can all cause this.

Dark pink for seedlings, green for veg/early flower, orange for full flower.

Wrong chart. Thats weather/room VPD. Plant VPD requires leaf temp as the 3rd variable.

This chart tells you the room's VPD, not the plants. If the plants VPD is higher, CO2 is locked out at the stomata. Only including leaf temp will give you plant VPD, which is what drives transpiration.

Room VPD is what removes the transpiration that plant VPD transpires. It's a different chart with a different formula.

A 3 input VPD caculator app with air temp, leaf temp, and RH is what you want, not this chart.

Carbs and proteins, which to a plant is carbon and nitrogen, must stay in ratio, so adding too much nitrogen causes this, and using the wrong chart can easily mislead you to locked CO2 (or not even knowing about VPD can lead to it too), which puts carbon low in the ratio, thus nitrogen appears high.

If leaf temp is equal to or above room temp transpiration causes PM conditions, and carbon intake is restricted which invites disease. Transpiration is wetter than the rooms ability to wick it away, and stomata, for lack of a better description, go under water so they close to prevent drowning, but also stop carbon assimilation to stop growth until she can breath again.

My guess is you have either used a high nitrogen liquid fertilizer or a bunch of Calmag. Probably both.

It's common so I'm not dissing here. It bites everyone sooner or later. I invoke it purposely to start stretch with a huge nitro rush instead of getting that high nitro bomb deep in flower, which pretty much guarantees fluffy buds. Especially in sativas. Indicas are tougher but sativas are more vigorous, so it hits them faster, harder, and fluffier.

Low soil calcium locks nitrogen in the soil. It builds up. Calmag releases it all at once on contact and leaves go claw-like, reverse taco, and get a leathery look.

The wetter the soil the harder it hits. Bugs are coming if they aren't already there.

Dry her out. Get an inch of dry on the surface. Is the dry sort fluffy or is it crusty?

Too much water promotes nitrogen synthesis. The plant strives to grow more foliage to transpire the soil drier faster. Natures way.

Unless you are synthetic. If that's the case then lay off the nitro.

It looks like a classic organic nitrogen bomb went off from a calmag application.

Are you organic or synthetic on this grow?

 

[SmokingWings]

I’m growing in my bedroom with old school grow light.

Turn off the old school light and turn on the room light and any lamp that might be nearby. Set the flash on the camera to automatic. Then take two pictures and the camera will determine the proper exposure. So far we have some photos with an off color to them so we cannot see the true color.

I don't know about too much nitrogen but I have the feeling that the new photos will show a bronze color starting to form on the leaves.

The room temperature is 70 degrees, not sure about humidity but I’m sure it’s low.

The daytime or lights on temperature is not warm enough. Most growers have their better grows when it is 78 to 85 F. The 70 F is at the top end of the suggested night-time or lights off. Not sure what you can do to fix that if the plant is in the bedroom since increasing the lights on temperatures could be uncomfortable.

I’m using suggested dosage per gallon of miracle grow and suggested dosage of bud bloom with water in gallon milk jugs. I water each morning as soon as I turn the grow light on and giving them 12 hours of light.

You will find out that many of the growers here are not fans of the Micacle-Gro company. But since you are currently using one of their products you should tell us which one. The Miracle-Gro company has several different fertilizers with different NPK ratios and different supplemental nutrients added. And, what is "bud bloom". Helps to know the company name, brand name, etc.

 

[Sativa1970]

@Gee64 I know that is technically the wrong chart but just looking for a simple explanation. It serves the purpose for a simple grow. Didn't think that much detail was required for a plant growing in the corner.

She is cold with wet feet. Get her up closer to 75deg if you can and space out your watering until the soil is lighter.

 

[cbdhemp808]

Yes, let's get a good photo of the whole plant in normal light, including the pot.

I'd also like to know pot size and medium.

At this point, I'll guess too much water. It could be the pot is too small and is now root bound and the plant therefore is not drinking normally.

 

[Ke0ncp]

Also looking at the photo looks like they are in 5gal buckets with maybe 1/4 of the bucket filled with what ever soil/media your using or am I looking at that wrong?

 

[cbdhemp808]

Also looking at the photo looks like they are in 5gal buckets with maybe 1/4 of the bucket filled with what ever soil/media your using or am I looking at that wrong?

good eye! yeah, what the heck is going on there?!