White Widows Grow Under Mars-Hydro TS1000 Using FFOF

Nunyabiz said:
Yep, that should be at 2 days after popping out of the ground.
This particular plant grew amazingly fast but it was an autoflower on a 20/4 light schedule.
It's a Honey Peach CBD auto
I am about to grow another one of these in about a week or so.
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Yeah im just not even close. Having said that, you were in a growbox controlling your own light schedules. Im using a greenhouse, outdoors, utilising just the British summer sun. I also moved my seedlings immediately into 12 litre smart pots the moment they germinated so stress may have stunted them a day or two?

This was my first WW as of this morning....

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EDIT: Mine are autos too!
 
Wallanaise the Haze said:
Yeah im just not even close. Having said that, you were in a growbox controlling your own light schedules. Im using a greenhouse, outdoors, utilising just the British summer sun. I also moved my seedlings immediately into 12 litre smart pots the moment they germinated so stress may have stunted them a day or two?

This was my first WW as of this morning....

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EDIT: Mine are autos too!
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I could do an outside grow no problem but I like the idea more of a controlled environment. The photos I have posted starting off they were 20 days exactly from breaking ground. Mind you I had to help each seedling too. I honestly think if I didn't dig them up they'd be both dead.
 
Nothing much going on today but tomorrow I'll be trying something new for me. Yesterday I was reading @Emilya thread and what she was doing in it was brilliant. Anyways what she was doing and what I'll be starting to do is weigh the pots after a watering and so on to get an idea how much water and when it's being used most. So it got me thinking...my next runs will be everything in doubles. I'd like to do this to control each one a different way from its other to see how it affects final results. Nothing major...things like more transplants for one rather then germ to final pot. Maybe even larger watering less often compared to smaller waters more often. I'm sure a lot of this information is readily available but since I'm still new it's a great way for me to learn as well as help others that need it. It's fascinating to me the different things you can do with this plant.
 
Transplanted both into 5 gallons and gave them a nice watering. I'll be looking to top both as soon as I'm able to get into them well enough to make a nice clean cut. They're growing so compact I'll probably have to wait a few more days for it to stretch out a bit. I raised the light from 18 inches to around 22 inches to try to stretch them out a little. I now have names for them as well. First meet please meet Wilma the White Widow and 2nd is Wendy the White Widow. Ever since I was a kid I've named anything with the letter it is. For instance my cat is Cow the Cat. Cow is short for Catticus Octavious Worthington. I know....im an odd ball. Lol. Anyways....ill be uploading a picture once a week from this point unless I'm troubleshooting her. I don't want to upload to many often as Id prefer you all to see more growth between the pictures.
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I got a little going on here with them today. One of the plants has some minor yellowing of her lowest leaf right near the tip but in the side. I'll be keeping an eye on this to make sure I catch anything before it gets out of hand. They took to the transplant into 5 gallons though as I can see new growth in both of them. I'll be adding a 3rd Widow into the grow in the next few days once I remove her from the seedling box. Since ill have an empty box I'll be looking to order some autos this time around shortly.
 
HugePeckerhead said:
I got a little going on here with them today. One of the plants has some minor yellowing of her lowest leaf right near the tip but in the side. I'll be keeping an eye on this to make sure I catch anything before it gets out of hand. They took to the transplant into 5 gallons though as I can see new growth in both of them. I'll be adding a 3rd Widow into the grow in the next few days once I remove her from the seedling box. Since ill have an empty box I'll be looking to order some autos this time around shortly.
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Can't say anything without a photo of the one in question Brother, but your photos snob look great.
 
John Wick said:
Can't say anything without a photo of the one in question Brother, but your photos snob look great.
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I'll get some up later on today. My fiancee is asleep right now and last thing I wanna do is to snapping pics while she's in dreamland. I think it's just the beginning of it starting to die as it's the lower leaf being blocked by all the top growth. I can't get in to top get either as they're growing so compact. Like there's literally no space between the nodes.
 
HugePeckerhead said:
I'll get some up later on today. My fiancee is asleep right now and last thing I wanna do is to snapping pics while she's in dreamland. I think it's just the beginning of it starting to die as it's the lower leaf being blocked by all the top growth. I can't get in to top get either as they're growing so compact. Like there's literally no space between the nodes.
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Yep I agree, don't wake her up.
That wouldn't be a good beginning to a nice Sunday morning for either one of you. Lol
I respect my GF sleep needs and I'm greatly rewarded for that when she wakes on her own. Lol
 
I must have been dreaming because I could have sworn I seen some yellowing starting but upon review I no longer see it lol. Anyways...had them out to check on them so decided to snap a pic. Please note she is deeper in color but my cell phone flash brightens them. I'll be topping both as soon as I can get in to make nice cuts but there is extremely minimal room between the nodes to make the cut.
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I’m subbed in and will follow along.

Starting in bigger pots, that’s a common debate. It’s much easier to screw up a grow starting in bigger containers, being someone who’s fresh into the hobby. If you’ve been doing it for four years nuny and haven’t had a problem, then so be it, good for you man it’s working for you and all the power to you, nothing wrong with that. In my opinion when your suggesting things to a “newer” grower that doesn’t have the major fundamentals down, that would be bad tips to be sharing. You start in smaller pots to have a smaller chance of the watering over under issue. Then could result in a lockout of a nutrient. Think of it this way. Plants love BLT when your feeding a plant BLT (bacon lettuce tomato) and the your not seeing runoff out of the bottom, the plant is getting a lot of bacon a lil bit of lettuce and zero to no tomato. Soil looks dry so you feed another BLT, giving her another full dose of bacon, a lil lettuce and lil to no tomato again, plus the left over scraps from the feeding before.

But when you feed a smaller container and have run off out the bottom. You feed a BLT to the plant, letting the water pool up and drain a few times, till you see run off. Assuring you the entire bacon lettuce and tomato have run through the entire root system, feeding them, as well as ensuring you your pulling oxygen down to the roots while doing so, because pulling oxygen to those roots is just as important. Building your root system to be a nice healthy strong system. Moving to the next size pot. Ultimately having two or three transplants through the grow, ending in a 5 gal or 7 gal pot.

That’s just my $0.02 :reading420magazine:
 
I see exactly the opposite.

Virtually every grow I see where people are having problems its because of growing in tiny pots, waiting to long to transplant, over watering a tiny pot in poor soil, actually most people are so freaked out about watering that they under water.

When I plant a seed into a 25 gallon fabric pot it grows like Kudzu, the roots spread out quickly, my soil is very aerated plus I super oxygenate my water so between that and the worms in my pot my roots get tons of oxygen, more than you could possibly get in a small plastic pot.
Always more than one way to do things you see.
I prefer the easy way.

I am simply explaining the way that works best for me.
If your soil is right, the soil tilth is proper, you're in fabric pots.
Then the rest is easy, plant the seed , water it, watch it grow.

Most people seem to be making this a lot harder on themselves than it needs to be.
That's growing totally organic no-till though, which personally is my recommendation for everyone.
The only hard part about it is getting your soil right, spending a good month or more just growing soil if you buy really good aged compost, if you make your own compost then need to start that about a year in advance but that's totally unnecessary when you can buy great compost aged for two years and within a month you're ready to grow.

If you have all the right ingredients in your soil, you have plenty of aeration in the form of Rice Hulls, Pumice and Precharged Biochar, get a cover crop started to get some roots into the soil, inoculate with mycorrhazae, add your worms, a handful of Gro-kashi on top, little barley hay for mulch until the cover crop comes in, add about 500 Rove Beetles for pest management.
Let all that meld for a month, grow soil.
You should be able to pour a gallon of oxygenated water quickly into a 25 gallon pot and have it disappear completely, about as fast as pouring through a screen door.
I water frequently, and everytime I water it's with super oxygenated water from 02 emitters so my roots get a steady supply of oxygen plus the soil holds oxygen.

Then plant a germinated seed into that soil, I water with a spray bottle first few days, after that just water the pot normally, keep the soil moist NEVER let it dry out and its virtually fool proof.
No worries about pH because your soil takes care of it.
No worries about over or under feeding because your soil and microbes take care of it with just minor inputs from you.
No worries about over watering because the soil is proper with correct tilth and you're in a fabric pot with a minimum of 15 gallons of soil with worms aerating it and cover crop roots helping plus the cover crop helps keep the soil at proper moisture level.
You basically can't overwater short of tossing it into a swimming pool.
In this method you CAN however under water, you pretty much treat this kind of soil grow like you do Coco.
But the soil is so porous, and the cover crop helps balance out everything so really it's damn near fool proof which is why I always preach this method to everyone n00b or not.
The only hard part is before you even start growing cannabis.
By the time you plant the seed all you do is water and watch it grow.

You also get the added benefit of 100% organic and the best tasting bud you'll ever smoke.

My .02c
 
Gonna be adding a little calmag in today's watering for both of them. I can see a little spotting starting and I've read widows are known and can be calcium hogs. So gonna keep an eye on them to see if after the water it corrects the problem in the next few days.
 
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