Trimming and flowering questions

kotsotronic

kotsotronic

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I put these seeds in water on 24/12/2015...Its been 37 days since then and i am currently at this point


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When do you think i can trim this girls

When to put them to bloom...
 
Minimum time before a plant from seed is genetically prepared for bloom is after 4 weeks assuming everything was great for those 4 weeks So technically you are probably close if not ready to bloom if you want.

the real answer about blooming start time depends on how you are growing and your space. the plant will double in size after you flip the lights...may actually triple if you nail it. if you are in a scrog and keep tucking through stretch then the answer is different then is you are letting it just go up. Since you are not in a SCROG and it looks like you are doing some super cropping it may need a while to heal first before you want to bloom it. It all comes down to the height. think about where the light can be at its highest point. then subtract the distance needed for that type of light and that is the max height your plants can get. Then measure your plants height. again since it can triple in size you want to make sure that the height from the top of the soil to the top of the plant is no more than 1/3 of the height left in your grow space. That may still be too much because you may not have the horizontal spacing needed to get that high properly. But assuming you can space them out properly and knowing you don't want them to grow into the light and hermi you want to start them at 1/3 the distance to that peak spot.

I am not sure what you mean by "trimming". There is an advanced technique based on some pruning that you shouldn't be doing if you are asking these questions. If you are talking about taking clones that is something I like to do right about the time I flip the lights to bloom cycle personally but that is a personal thing. You can clone at anytime and it is more about how you want to raise the clones and how much grow space you have.

If you are talking about taking off fan leaves in general, that is not a recommended practice for a number of reasons.

:goodluck:
 
VilliageIdiot said:
Since you are not in a SCROG and it looks like you are doing some super cropping it may need a while to heal first before you want to bloom it. It all comes down to the height. think about where the light can be at its highest point. then subtract the distance needed for that type of light and that is the max height your plants can get. Then measure your plants height. again since it can triple in size you want to make sure that the height from the top of the soil to the top of the plant is no more than 1/3 of the height left in your grow space. That may still be too much because you may not have the horizontal spacing needed to get that high properly. But assuming you can space them out properly and knowing you don't want them to grow into the light and hermi you want to start them at 1/3 the distance to that peak spot.

I am not sure what you mean by "trimming". There is an advanced technique based on some pruning that you shouldn't be doing if you are asking these questions. If you are talking about taking clones that is something I like to do right about the time I flip the lights to bloom cycle personally but that is a personal thing. You can clone at anytime and it is more about how you want to raise the clones and how much grow space you have.

If you are talking about taking off fan leaves in general, that is not a recommended practice for a number of reasons.

:goodluck:
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I havent supercrop them..I just LST them...I just use rags to tuck the canopy in horizontal position and more rugs to tuck the brunches to make them all even...So maybe no healing needed???... i also toped them...
Current distance of light is at 35cm (400w MH, 6400k) if you could visit my journal you could see details about my spaces set up..
I curently have 7 plants...i used to have 13 but i giave some as a gift to a couple of friends :bravo:
but i am gonna give one more away so i will have 6 in total...i ll transplant in a 12 lt (3 gallon) pot ...
By trimming i mean to lollipop...Just give them a haircut at 1/3 of its growth to let the air circulate better..
 
You are doing fine. I don't think you need my help. You have some terminology wrong but you are doing things correctly so no worries.

Good luck. I will try to get around to your journal at some point but I have lots of journals where I basically have daily requested posts that take a lot of time. So I can only do so much. I help the people with problems not the ones who are basically doing things correct or better.

You don't appear to have critical time sensitive issues.
 
I think you should consider taking the lower third, trim it up, yes. Might wait a week. In veg, once a week once they start getting bushy,(meaning each branch has multiple bud sites/additional branches) I like to take the lowest growth. I go branch by branch, that stuff will usually be popcorn/shaded, and not big producers. It clogs things up, restricts airflow. Keep in mind, I like to give my girls two full weeks to recover from any trimming or training before I flower them. I typically veg three months per plant. Looks good though, keep it up!
 
So...I experimented a little bit,due the fact that i have a spare plant...so i gave that lady a haircut and this is the outcome...this was yestardys photos...I also tuck the brunches some more,,,now all are even....i am thinking about continue experiment with this one and make it go aroun the pot..I'll see



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There is a real good thread on here on pruning the right way. It is like 50 pages long now I think. You don't need to read it all. It is a good read. You should find it. There are a lot of gotchas that are not obvious. In fact I think you took off the wrong ones but no big deal. the process, done correctly, is done repeatedly throughout the grow.

It is highly controversial and not recommended for newbs. (not saying you are on just if someone reads this)

There is a lot to it but..Assuming you hit it right, and there is a lot you can screw up, and get the increased yield it amounts to like 15%-20%. (depends who you ask). But also it takes a bit longer to get to harvest. So depending on how good you are in a year, even though you harvest more, since it is less frequent you may end up with total amount that is less weight.

There is a lot more to it then just that factor. It is something not really to be tried until you have nailed the grow space. A very common basic mistake people make is making changes like this before they have nailed their grow and know what there real volume is. If you are getting better with each grow still then making a change may or may not be measurable. If you do the same thing every time and can predict harvest day and know your weight per plant ( actually very easy to do ) then when you make a change you know what it did. If you are still learning or changing equipment or doing any number of things different than last time then you don't know if this other thing you did really matters. It could very well be that this one got better watering or light or something related to position in the room that isn't obvious yet. I could go on and on. But the point is doing experiments are great but knowing exactly "did it work" depends on having a good understanding of your control grow. Just basic science. Most people don't have it dialed in for a few years as it takes many grows to settle on a technique and equipment and understanding growing in summer vs. winter... ( I guess I did go on....there is more)


So go for it and learn what you can. Please find the pruning thread and read up. It is a good read. I am coming down with a cold and can't stay up late tonight so I got git to the next thread in my inbox.
 
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