The Overkill Microbox: Soil, Semi-Stealth, LED, Smart Pots, LST, Defoliation From Seed

sfgiantsfan

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Hi All

I'm very excited to be here. I've been on another site for a while and just decided to pick up my toys and head where there is a more positive vibe. The response I've gotten from you guys so far has been outstanding. It's about community right? That's how it feels here.

So the background..some years ago, I built a grow box out of an under counter cabinet. It looked like something it wasn't and worked great. I had a few great grows out of it before we moved into a nicer house. I was a little concerned with continuing with it as it housed a 400w HID system and the heat coming off that bad boy made growing prohibitive in the summer months not to mention expensive. I trashed it, sold off my HID stuff, built a brand new box (which I'm very proud of) and went with @TimberGrowLights, 200w, Citizen CLU048 fixture.

I'm currently running the entire box at 175w right now. That's everything, not just the light. The light is probably running at about 140w. Now that I'm in flower, I'm increasing the wattage by about 20w every other day. In veg, I was running it about 40% to 50% so about 100w on the light and 30ish watts of fans and other stuff.

I call it the "overkill" box as I've got a lot of stuff going on that cost me more than it should have, sound familiar?, but are just fun things to have. I had a little scratch so I figured, what the heck. Bluetooth temp and humidity monitoring, spy cam, kill-a-watt power strip, not one but 2 carbon filters and a totally enclosed, soundproofed fan box...you know..stuff you don't need.

The box dimensions are about 4' t x over2' d x 2' w. This was right after I finished it. The inset door is key and the locking mechanism is a...get this, TotLock! Lol! Magnetic and invisible.

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So basically, this is what the outside looks like. With the exception of many brewery stickers I've been pasting on the front of it, that's it. It's on casters so it's easy to move, I should make them bigger honestly, and I can work on it.

This is the interior setup. I did a scrog in my first grow but I don't like it as I can't pull the plants out and really look at them carefully so I got rid of that I went back to, don't gasp, defoliating, lst and topping. I also, at @TimberGrowLights recommendation, took off the angelina's for improved light spread and reduction of possible hot spots as my footprint is pretty small.

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The big thing for me was not having to have drain pans under the plants so I was able to come up with a system when I water, the runoff passes right through the shelving and goes into a tray below. The tray is a mini fridge drain tray and slides right out so I can flush and water without the mess. The shelving also provides space for airflow so nothing gets "sour" underneath the plants.



The interior is totally caulked, light and air sealed. I've got a blackout tarp with two zippers on the inside of the door for light proofing and a light baffle on the air intake.

This picture is from this week. I've got two critical and one papaya in flower. I've topped and lst'd them to keep them low.
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This image is from the cam...1st day of flower from seed which was on Monday.

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This pic is from the app on my phone that helps me to monitor temps and humidity without opening the box.

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Cool huh?? LOL I love stupid stuff like this.

In my first grow, I ran into temp issues. I live in NorCal and this summer got really hot and over 100 degrees in the box a couple of times but mostly in the mid to high 90's consistently for too long. Growth was completely off. I also thought, but don't know for sure, that I might have an airflow issue. Additionally, I got a new light that I didn't know how to use. The dimmer completely confused me PLUS I was growing from seed which I haven't done since the 70's and never indoor. It was an experimental grow. :welldone: lol. I netted just over 4 oz's but that's paltry compared to what I'm used to in this environment. Good smoke, crappy quantity. Luckily, I have more green than I can use at the moment so it didn't hurt me. I haven't even tried the Lemon something sativa I grew lol.

For the airflow, I bought one of those USB gaming computer fans and installed it over one of my intake holes. It's got a speed controller on it and is silent. I think it works great.

Sound - so yeah I'm trying to be somewhat stealthy as I have a 13-year-old who I just don't want knowing what's up. He's not the looking around at my stuff kind of guy so he hasn't noticed the box or even asked about it. (a miracle, I know) It was important that there be no smell or sound coming from the box.

The exhaust fan is inside a soundproof box that I built out of plywood, caulked the crap out of and filled with soundproofing material. As the air I'm evacuating is not much, the fan speed is really low. Probably about as low as it can be. I've got it set up on a, hence the overkill, Titan speed and temperature fan controller. Ha!

I don't use the temp part just the idle fan setting. It works great! Here's what the exhaust fan and filter look like. It's behind some boxes on a storage shelf next to the microbox.

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Let's just say the mini beer fridge next to my box makes more noise than my box does (probably smells more too!). For the smell, I've got a carbon filter on both the intake AND exhaust. There isn't a hint of a smell coming out of this thing.

So that's my rundown. Thank you for the warm reception ya'll. I've always liked it here and I'm glad to be back.

:Namaste:
 
Welcome, and nice looking microbox. I spent the past year or so growing in a 2'x3'x2' cabinet so good luck on topping, defoilation, LST and also keeping the airflow good in a small space.
Your plants are looking very nice.
I'd like to get all of your overkill options, but will have to build them up piece by piece as funds allow.

Good luck

Thanks! Yes that's what I did. Piecemeal which is just fine. Is that 2' tall? or 3'? That's a small space. How did you manage it?
 
Yes 2ft tall, I only managed it by suppercropping the hell out of some of them, biggest problem was airflow and bud rot due to humidity issues, the cabinet is in a shed and temps vary wildly.
I still managed to get some nice even canopies.

GG#4 Iwas a pain, buds were so dense bud rot was unavoidable for me

This Amnesia Haze I grew in a smaller cab, 14"x24"x26" high

The suppercropping and LST worked, but I really think it stunts the overall growth as the plant recovers, I've now started growing in a full height cab and I noticed the plants grow a lot taller quicker when not stressed too much.

Anyway, I'll try and follow along and look forward to seeing how it works out for you.

Cheers
 
Yes 2ft tall, I only managed it by suppercropping the hell out of some of them, biggest problem was airflow and bud rot due to humidity issues, the cabinet is in a shed and temps vary wildly.
I still managed to get some nice even canopies.

GG#4 Iwas a pain, buds were so dense bud rot was unavoidable for me

This Amnesia Haze I grew in a smaller cab, 14"x24"x26" high

The suppercropping and LST worked, but I really think it stunts the overall growth as the plant recovers, I've now started growing in a full height cab and I noticed the plants grow a lot taller quicker when not stressed too much.

Anyway, I'll try and follow along and look forward to seeing how it works out for you.

Cheers

Wow...

In a previous grow, I did the same thing I did on this grow. LST and defoliate however I didn't top. Under a 400w HID I harvested just under a pound off of 3 plants around 20" tall. I don't know if my light will produce those numbers but I'm going to give it a go.

I've never super cropped before and will try that in my next grow. I sure didn't notice any slowdown in growth after topping but did from defoliating but just a couple days, nothing serious.

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This was just over a week ago after defoliating and LST. This is today
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I think my airflow improvements really helped. My humidity is a little high at just over 40% but that's about as high as it will get lights off.

:Namaste:
 
Well.... nice little micro grow buckaroo! :high-five: I admire the stealth. :thumb: KeifKeith kept his grow a secret from his children until they were adults, and I’m not sure all of them know about it now. Lol!

This’ll be fun to watch. Sure was fun to read. Lol! I’ll find a seat over here on the floor and enjoy the show. :battingeyelashes: :green_heart:
 
Well.... nice little micro grow buckaroo! :high-five: I admire the stealth. :thumb: KeifKeith kept his grow a secret from his children until they were adults, and I’m not sure all of them know about it now. Lol!

This’ll be fun to watch. Sure was fun to read. Lol! I’ll find a seat over here on the floor and enjoy the show. :battingeyelashes::green_heart:

Thanks SS! I'm glad to be here. Now that I'm in flower, all the fun begins. I wish I had some colloidal silver and the motivation to make some fem seeds with this grow. Next one is Blueberry Muffins! LOL! Thanks for coming by!

Hey SF! Like the setup and stealth mission! I’ll pull up a seat and hang out over here, good luck and keep it green !

Thank you sir! Everyone is welcome here.

:Namaste:
 
So next grow, I'm going air pots. I was concerned about them being too tall but I thought "what if I just trim them?" So I did! Took 2" off the top and they hold about as much soil as the 3 gal equivalent smart pot. They are an inch taller.

So I'm going blueberry muffin regular seeds, not fem and I'd LOVE to get some feminized seeds off those puppies. I'm a little nervous about the process..sts or cs.

:Namaste:
 
Ok...week 1 of flower down and the girls are starting to stretch. I was a little concerned as they seemed to be reacting slowly to the flip but I'm dumb like that lol. The papaya girl seems to be on a chugging spree so I'll increase the water to her and probably to them all. She was showing signs of wilt which I was surprised at considering each plant is getting a full liter of water every other day but it is flower so...they're working a little harder than normal I guess.

As I'm going along, I'm slowly increasing the intensity of the light so as not to shock them all at once. Tonight I think I'll be going up to full intensity but we'll see as I can't remember exactly where I'm at wattage wise.

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I stuck my mini dehumidifier in the box as it has gotten up to about 60% in there which is a bit high. I may get another one to combat it. I seem to always deal with higher humidity than I'd like. The unit doesn't do too much but it's enough to bring it down some.

I'm going to build a little PVC platform to bring the height of it up a little so it's got room to breathe. Seems like the most efficient way to do it.

Started bloom nutes this week too..yup, chugging along.

Peace!

:Namaste:
 
2 weeks, 2 days of flower.

It's been too long since my last update! Life has thrown a couple of curve balls. One good, one not so good.

My plants are really healthy. I pulled them out today and cleaned them up. Of the three plants, I pulled 4 yellow leaves. No hint of deficiencies or rust, lol, or mold.

This is the papaya plant. Lots of stretch and I hope she fills in. I'm not wild about growing this strain. It's not easy.

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This is 1 of the critical girls. This one is stretching nicely too. She's gonna pack on the weight. Gained 2" in height in the last week. Really easy to grow.

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This girl here is the other critical but isn't stretching as much as the other. She got a late start on the stretch.

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I've got another probably 10" of space to go height wise and I hope they get up another 5" would be good. More room for stacking. Buds have shown up so that's good.

One problem with them being so dense and with tie downs everywhere is that watering is a pain. So I built a gravity feed water bucket with valves so I can just fill that up with all the water I need them put the hose in the pot for the time it takes for the water I need. I'll make watering much easier.
I'll post pics of that tonight when I get back.

:Namaste:

One more pic of "baby le thick" lol

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