I could t find anything on this here so I thought I'd see if anyone else has had this issue. I grew a beautiful kaya gold from nirvana seeds. I am a very new grower, this was only my second grow. So I had no idea it was full of seeds. I never saw any male parts but I also wasn't looking since I had already sexed this plant as female, and it was. But little did I know that l,during what was supposed to be her dark time, that damn red led would flash every 30-60 seconds. Putting her under tremendous stress! When harvested these bids were so damn dense, had about 26oz wet and 4.4 oz dry. As they dried they became very fluffy and the smoke is terrible. There are just a ton of seeds and you have to smoke 3-4 bowls just to catch a buzz it will not get you stoned. Maybe I'll make some butter with it. Has anyone else had this problem? I took mine apart and removed the led, even if it's to signal low battery I don't want that in my flower room or beg room. Thanks in advance for any replys!
Temperature sensor light blinking!
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JuanCarlos
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I don't think the red LED was the culprit bud.
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Thanks for the reply, I'm pretty sure it would disrupt the dark cycle if a light was blinking now and again in there. It is afterall supposed to be dark for 12 hours without interruption, this light is a interruption. Why do you say you don't think this is the problem?
JuanCarlos
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Experience. Some plants have a higher tendency to become hermaphrodite with environmental stresses. They say to induce light stress that the light source has to be greater than one foot candle. I don't know whether that red LED is that strong or not. But beyond that, I know people using the Acu-rite sensors with the red LEDs that have had no issue with hermies.
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Ah I see, that makes sense. Thank you for your input I do appreciate it. All I know is I went in during dark hours, my flower room is a 18"x18"x6' area and that light lit it up, very bright, blinding in the dark. I have it suspended hanging down from my hps into the plant, level with the plant. I suppose it could have been something else.
JuanCarlos
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It was either Jorge Cervantes or Ed Rosenthal that gave the one foot candle measurement, so I am simply going off what I have read. Beyond that I have personally seen a grow with the same style sensor suspended from the reflector in a 4'x4', 4 plants, only one had any hermie issues and it was a Cookies Kush which is known to have issues. That being said, if it's blinding, then no harm in taking it out. I would do the same.
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I use the same brand you mentioned, I opened it up and removed the led, no problem now. I'm currently growing a jock horror auto from nirvana. It is a beautiful plant, I'm hoping it turns out ok. It's a little discouraging when your second grow goes south. But il keep moving forward learn from mistakes and take all good advice and comments, such as your, and store them as to grow my experience. Thank you again!
JuanCarlos
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No problem man. I am not well versed in autos, but I didn't think autos had issues with light stress.
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I too am pretty sure auto aren't. My first grow was a JH auto same as my current and I had no problems like this and I was using the same sensor. So I'm sure this one will be ok but I'm kinda worried about my Wonder Woman fem that's in veg now. I'm pretty sure she'll be ok too and if not I have some major reconstruction to do.
JuanCarlos
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You removed the light from the sensor though, right? I think your Wonder Woman will be fine.
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Yes I removed it, no more light. I too think she will be ok.
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I have head of sensor lights causing problems. However there could be a multitude of reasons. If you visit someone else's grow you can carry pollen into yours. The same with outside pollen. Be careful, and keep an eye for nanners too.
I have head of sensor lights causing problems. However there could be a multitude of reasons. If you visit someone else's grow you can carry pollen into yours. The same with outside pollen. Be careful, and keep an eye for nanners too.
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I have head of sensor lights causing problems. However there could be a multitude of reasons. If you visit someone else's grow you can carry pollen into yours. The same with outside pollen. Be careful, and keep an eye for nanners too.
So if i drag pollen in from outside it could pollenate my lady? Even if said pollen was from random landscape plants? I run a lawn service so I'm positive I drag pollen in every day. This could suck. Yea I kinda figured that little red led was going to cause a problem, once i finally saw it was doing that. I'll be on the look out for the banners! And thanks for the reply!
No not random pollen. Only cannabis pollen. Which is plentiful in the mountains near me.
improvise
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you said this is your second grow if it`s the same setup i take it you had flashing light first time round and all was well.
as Rifleman says there could be numerous factors that lead to that end result. regards
as Rifleman says there could be numerous factors that lead to that end result. regards
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No not random pollen. Only cannabis pollen. Which is plentiful in the mountains near me.
Thats what I figured, I was pretty sure random pollen wouldn't hurt. Still, I wash up and change clothes before I go near there for general cleanliness purposes. Sometimes I don't but 98% of the time I do.
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Correct, however my first grow was a Jock Horror Auto my second was Kaya Gold and now another JH Auto. I think the fact my first was an auto was why it didn't herm?
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My first grow was a Jock Horror Auto, I believe that is why I had no trouble with it. Here is what this very knowledgeable gentleman had to say on this issue.
Quote Originally Posted by ShiggityFlip
Again I would say that outdoor is far different during the night than our indoor. We must be careful discounting the effect of the far red light in late summer/fall. Studies have been done indoor with short day plants (cannabis is a short day flowering plant which actually means long night). Flowering was prevented indoor by flashing a light in the middle of the dark period each day. This is of course why gas lantern routine works well. If that same light was flashed followed by lighting from a far red bulb then flowering commenced/continued.
Its all about phytochome. Phytochrome has two light induced conformations Pr and Pfr. 660nm light will shift Pr to Pfr. 730nm (far red) will shift Pfr to Pr. If phytochrome is in the Pr state then flowering commences or continues. If it is in the Pfr state flowering will not start or ceases. Outdoor these light flashes by headlights etc, are counteracted by far red light reconverting any Pfr to Pr again. Indoor, there is no far red light in the dark cycle to do that. So if we flash a light in thee darkness it takes approximately 2 hours to convert Pfr to Pr again. If that happens just one time its not going to be a big deal. Do that quite often and there may be issues with reduced flowering response i.e buds that stretch and go half veg, hermies, reduced trichs and terps, etc.
As far as sex reversal or nanners I think that is mostly genetically determined. So if your strain is not hermie prone then having night time light issues and irregualarities will probably not make a female plant produce nanners. If it is a sensitive strain then you may have issues. Especially if there are other stressors present like excess heat, infestations, over fertilization, etc.
For me, once the lights go out I don't mess with it. Once I get these far red lights if I need to go in, I will just turn on the far reds and be confident nothing is awry.