The Stinky Breeders - Cannabis Workers Unite Project # 1

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Welcome patients, stoners recreational, and occasional Blazers!

This is the inception of the "Stinky Breeders" Dutty Panty and Metatron the latest sex workers in the cannabis breeding scene are uniting forces to combine there powers to create two personalized strains that will eventually form one genuine F1 hybrid of epic proportions.

We have a dream! a vision! to take the cumulative, resources, experience and knowledge, combined with available literature and Media, and of course the good people of 420 Magazine, to create the stickiest stankiest strain ever conceived by "Cannabis Sex Workers".

During the conception of this idea it was discussed how it is truly possible for anyone with the resources at hand to in fact create something new from something already great.

For this Project we will be using a readily available strain from Cannacopia seeds, this breeder provides wonderful genetics at an affordable price, thus keeping in the spirit of the Vision of our Project.

BC Roadkill Skunk x Deep Chunk provides an already stellar starting point for this endeavour, possessing already the RKS, and Deep Chunk.

The first step in our plan is to grow out the BCRKS x DC, Take two sets of clones, Open pollinate the originals and selective pollinate some chosen individuals.

Detailed notes on the Expression of every plant will allow us to make the desired selections. Every seed to full grown individual will be cataloged and stored short term and long term in seed form, S1's for great phenos and regular seeds from the selective breeding.

Using Environmental triggers we hope to promote the desired pheno expressions that will also help us to achieve our goals, we intend to manipulate everything we can, light food, soil conditions, and Atmospheric in the case of C02 enrichment.

Subscribe, follow a long, this thread has the potential for many years and thousands of posts.

Or was it thousands of years and many posts?

And without further delay, we join the "Stinky Breeders" Project #1 already in progress.

This is an Older Picture of MT's starting batch, there was a camera failure this morning, pictures too dark.

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These are DP's Selections, looking awesome as usual :)

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re: The "Stinky Breeders" - Cannabis Sex Workers Unite Project # 1

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Buckle up! Off we go...
 
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Bean porn, I'm in!! You guys are raising the bar, love that!!

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A question for you breeders.

If one were to take clones from a female plant, use CS (or whatever) to make one of the clones a male,
then impregnate the female clone with the male pollen, does that set the genetics within that plant.
In other words will any seeds be like the parent or will the genetics drift.

I'm especially interested in knowing if it would stabilize something like ice with it's multiple parent genetics.

TIA.
 
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newoldguy said:
A question for you breeders.

If one were to take clones from a female plant, use CS (or whatever) to make one of the clones a male,
then impregnate the female clone with the male pollen, does that set the genetics within that plant.
In other words will any seeds be like the parent or will the genetics drift.

I'm especially interested in knowing if it would stabilize something like ice with it's multiple parent genetics.

TIA.
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i had this thought in my head TODAY also :) ..
 
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Breeders can imply a lot, I prefer sex workers but that's besides the point, nothing with genetics is 100%, knowing this, making seeds the way you mentioned would essentially be Sibling breeding, so when you reverse a female, and pollinate that female with her own genes you will get an S1, ideally she should be uniform, however environmental triggers can affect the Phenotypical expression, and thus over time cause the drift your talking about. However the genotype of the plants from the resulting seeds should have exactly the same Genotype.

This is why CS or STS solutions can help you preserve a clone more or less in seed form, and return easily to that clone you loved, but the like you mentioned if the clone is from a hybrid parental lineage it will still require an immense amount of work to stabilize or make that desirable clone true breeding for the traits you like, or how they say homozygous.

So for a hobbyist that loves a clone but has limited space and wants to save her for a rainy day, this is a good idea, from a breeding perspective there is definitely a place for reversing.

In our first project here we are essentially starting with a hybrid of two IBL's (in bred lines) which will hopefully make our journey a little shorter, but I do not want to say too much and let the cat out of the bag.

MT
 
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Thanks, I was hoping that it would help to inbred the traits that I want.

So the next question, tied to the last LoL, would repeated inbreeding brother/sister further stabilize those traits?
And would it be better to use the 1st converted brother with succeeding seeds or should a clone be turned at each inbreeding?

I've always loved the afghani (indica) line but I do like the occasional sativa, so I'm interested in breeding from those types of lineups and this knowledge will help with that.
 
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The way I understand it in the Indica Genetics it is also easier to find a true mal of female, so to your question repeated inbreeding of the same brother and sister over and over will most likely produce an undesirable plant, the further you go down the generations the more nature is allowed to take it's natural course, and nature doesn't like to get high as far as I know so the genetics will eventually land at a point where it best survives in the environment that it has been existing in, this is how environmental triggers affect genetic drift over many generations.

What I think you want to do is Back cross, or incross, once you out cross with a hybrid things become rather complicated. But you will see all this occur as this thread unfolds.

I hope I said all that the way I meant it :)
 
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newoldguy said:
A question for you breeders.

If one were to take clones from a female plant, use CS (or whatever) to make one of the clones a male,
then impregnate the female clone with the male pollen, does that set the genetics within that plant.
In other words will any seeds be like the parent or will the genetics drift.

I'm especially interested in knowing if it would stabilize something like ice with it's multiple parent genetics.

TIA.
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genetics are never truly set. one can stress a plant enough or the opposite too, give it a perfect environment and it will present different phenos, often not in the gene pool. Mutation...
 
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Im in just waiting for another harvest or maybe two but then I'm going to work my hands at some breeding and stabilizing a 2 things I had in mind were a mix I would just love to see crossed and perfected then I'm thinking a just high cbd cross but that got me thinking to that there's not a lot of high cbd and high THC strains for the ppl who love getting baked but need the benefits of cbd also just a thought.
 
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Meta tron said:
What I think you want to do is Back cross, or incross, once you out cross with a hybrid things become rather complicated. But you will see all this occur as this thread unfolds.
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So would back crossing be pollinating the mother (or clone) with a later generation male?
Mother being what I call the original female when breeding started.

Edit to add: Now I'm researching what's known about breeding. LoL

Thanks for the thread
 
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Yes, back crossing is using one or both original parents with one or more of the "F" generations, for example desired male F3 pheno to female P1. Or desired F4 female Pheno to male P2, I say F3 or F4 just to be random, it could be even something from the F1 Generation granted you are starting with the proper parents. But remember the more times you cross the more the vigour depreciates, in the end you will need something preferably IBL or True Breeding, or Landrace to cross your work with in order to restore vigour. Or you can creat two IBL's from the same parents, use two different siblings to backcross until you reach your goal, then you cross both new IBL's to restore vigour.

In the meantime though there is more to learn and read, it is much more complex than just saying it, like the strains must be compatible, some strains do not combine well with others, there is gene linkage, some desirable traits may be linked with undesirable traits. You have to know so many variables that it can be mind boggling and totally a full time job.
 
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