Spider Sack or Spider Mites or none of the above? Scratching my head

Morda Grown

Morda Grown

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I just can't get a break this year. Any one know what this pest may be? I had regular spiders on this plant all along. Could this just be the egg case of one? Or is it something more destructive and ominous? This is an outdoor grow and there is some old webbing on the stem but, I assume it was from my spider.

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Micro scope Pics:

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Edit: I have placed it in a closed container so when what ever is inside hatches, I will know.
 
I will
Sueet said:
Good plan! Let us know when you find out please :Rasta:
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I will for sure! If anyone does know though, please Please chime in. I lifted all her skirts and did not see any more.

If interested this is the condition of the plant it was found on:

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I found this doing a search but, it was not identified.

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Spider Egg Sac

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I'm thinking a Spider. Even at that I don't need a bunch of baby spiders webbing up this girl this close to flower.
 
I see no leaf damage, so it's not the "Borg" or any other harmful insect. Looks a lot like a spider egg sac, actually a good thing, when they hatch they'll keep that plant clean of insects. I'm a little surprised that the female isn't guarding the egg sac. The pic is a little blurry, but it looks like I see some baby spiders (the grey things) crawling on the leaf edge.
 
Phytoplankton said:
I see no leaf damage, so it's not the "Borg" or any other harmful insect. Looks a lot like a spider egg sac, actually a good thing, when they hatch they'll keep that plant clean of insects. I'm a little surprised that the female isn't guarding the egg sac. The pic is a little blurry, but it looks like I see some baby spiders (the grey things) crawling on the leaf edge.
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I have done some research and agree it is more than likely a spider case. Not all spiders protect their young. Not sure what the black specks are but, they are not babies, my guess would be some kind of food. I would have seen them moving under my scope and touched them with a probe. What is throwing me off is the shape and black bulges. Caterpillars are usually long and not round. 99.9% of the spider sacks I have seen have been smooth. Spider hatchlings can be, as far as webbing, almost as bad as mite webbing. Having buds covered with webs in not good even if they are a helpful insect. In my experiance there are only a few insects that make webbing, Spiders, Caterpillars, Mites.
 
013 said:
Yeah I’d almost be tempted to snip it and try to incubate them elsewhere til you can figure out what they are but since there’s no leaf damage I’m hoping it’s a friendly
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Oh for sure, if they are spiders, I will set them free. As creepy as spiders are to some, they love to snack on bad insects. I consider them a friendly.

Phytoplankton said:
Not all spiders build webs for hunting, but if you're worried just snip it off as mentioned above.
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I did snip it to get it under my scope and put it in a jar to see what emerges
 
Yikes :O Those are ones I leave alone. LOL They like to eat males. :rofl: Luckily we don't have any around here in Michigan. :cheesygrinsmiley:
 
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