SpaceGhosts 1st Grow Hydro Advanced Nutrients

Defoliating- Not sure if I can break it down so it makes sense, but I will try. I have no exact science to how I do it.

Let me state this is a routine that moves clones to flower at a rapid pace. One could easily be productive by grooming more in the veg state if you wish to invest the time... There will be variance from strain to strain and style of grow. I can only describe what I use for standard container growing.

First trim.. At about 3-4 weeks in flower I start to remove the oldest largest fan leaves if I feel there is enough to support more growth. I am sure to leave ample near bud sites and concentrate on interior and lower areas. Meaning I rarely take anything other than from the main stalk at this point. Main stalk can include multiples if we are talking a topped or LST'd plant. Proceeding lightly to minimize stress. I also cut the stem no where near the main stalk. I allow the leaf stem to dry and fall naturally. I feel I am inflicting the least damage this way. It can easily sacrifice the stem with no visible harm elsewhere. Not sure it matter but made sense to me so I do. Also by removing the damaged leaves I can much easier monitor any deficiency I may be having if one exists. Watching the the leaves turn necrotic and die can fool a newbie into over treating a scenario. Fresh litmus.. fresh test results...

Second trim.. is maybe another 3-4 weeks this time eliminating all fan leaves and diseased foliage. In this stage I trim lower growth that I feel is doing nothing but taking up nutes with little to offer down the line. Always keeping in mind the total amount of damage I am doing and stay within a reasonable limit. Would rather revisit the trim than to go overboard.
 
SmokzAlot said:
Defoliating- Not sure if I can break it down so it makes sense, but I will try. I have no exact science to how I do it.

Let me state this is a routine that moves clones to flower at a rapid pace. One could easily be productive by grooming more in the veg state if you wish to invest the time... There will be variance from strain to strain and style of grow. I can only describe what I use for standard container growing.

First trim.. At about 3-4 weeks in flower I start to remove the oldest largest fan leaves if I feel there is enough to support more growth. I am sure to leave ample near bud sites and concentrate on interior and lower areas. Meaning I rarely take anything other than from the main stalk at this point. Main stalk can include multiples if we are talking a topped or LST'd plant. Proceeding lightly to minimize stress. I also cut the stem no where near the main stalk. I allow the leaf stem to dry and fall naturally. I feel I am inflicting the least damage this way. It can easily sacrifice the stem with no visible harm elsewhere. Not sure it matter but made sense to me so I do. Also by removing the damaged leaves I can much easier monitor any deficiency I may be having if one exists. Watching the the leaves turn necrotic and die can fool a newbie into over treating a scenario. Fresh litmus.. fresh test results...

Second trim.. is maybe another 3-4 weeks this time eliminating all fan leaves and diseased foliage. In this stage I trim lower growth that I feel is doing nothing but taking up nutes with little to offer down the line. Always keeping in mind the total amount of damage I am doing and stay within a reasonable limit. Would rather revisit the trim than to go overboard.
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Oh boy: maybe I trimmed to much. Guess I will see in the next couple of days. Like a scab, I don't know when to quit picking.
Hope their like the bush out front that I can't even kill. every year I take more and more. last year I used the hedge trimmers and nearly took it off at the ground. looks like it's already got a good start. where's the gasoline.

Shit think I lost my lighter, auto blow torch time.
 
it's snowing here. Huh. Guess it's not all bad that my bikes not running yet.

When do you start saving trim for canabutter, Hash looks like you would want the later clippings with all the tryclones on them.


I think the stretch was done, haven't seen any crazy growth in a couple cays now.
 
SpaceGhost said:
Well still can't find Googly moogly

Did find this video of Jorge Cervantes: Grow Film
Wish I would have found this months ago. It has a detailed Ice has Tutorial
High Times Presents Jorge Cervantes: Grow Film - YouTube
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the "googly moogly" was just meant as google bending. Meaning google how to bend pot, or other terms you may want to use.

heheh. no actual moogly my friend. "googly moogly" from an old Frank Zappa song. Aqualung album I believe.

Watch out where the Huskies go, and don't you eat that yellow snow.
 
SA said it pretty good.

I start my heavy defoliating early in veg as you know. This doesnt hurt them one bit. They do slow a little, so you need to plan a little extra veg time. But they come back insanely fast, bushier than before with closer internode spacing.

Don't defoliate right before flipping to 12/12.

Wait for stretch to basically end, then defoliate aggressively again. However, and I think I overlooked this (since I just re-read the original thread again), try not to remove leaves directly from bud sites.

As SA stated, you're clearing out for more light and better air. This also lowers the humidity a little bit since they wont be transpiring so much water.
 
Motherhugger said:
SpaceGhost - Awesome grow with Advanced Nutrients. Finally, a journal that is helpful to folks.

Thanks for sharing!
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Your welcome: Stay tuned
Home made cloner
1000w lamp addition in a few days end of week
as the issues I concur along the way I will relay to all to help. I have been hanging out in forums of one kind or another for years just never grew weed till now.

Today I wrapped my buckets in blk around the bottoms and cut a piece of panda paper for the tops of the buckets. Light should not penetrate your buckets to the roots of your plants. I also did a little vacuuming in there to help keep it clean.
Yesterday, I spent cleaning water lines and drip rings of algae. I know your supposed to use blk lines, but this is all I had at the time. I made a blk cover for the lines that covers over most of the lines till they split and go to the buckets.

The plants look Like the are already recovering from defoliating some they grow so quick. I will post some pics after the lights turn on tomorrow morning 10:30 am
 
So many hrs on youtube, and I found this video on super cropping easy to understand and with some good demonstrations.

Super Cropping Tutorial - YouTube

So I Think I can handle this. It's not as much as Bass does but it's my 1st steps to super cropping and once I feel more comfortable I will beet them up like Bass.
So I did one plant, this plant is about 2 weeks out from getting tossed in the flower room so it will be a nice experiment.
I am not going to do this to my 2 BFP's (big fuking plants) they have been flowering to long and I am not interested in the plant devoting some time to repair the super cropping. it looks like they have stopped their growth spurt for now.
I have a 1000w hood and ballast coming, I will just raise my hood and set the 1000w in that I should have plenty of penetration. then I will then use the 600w to supplement the 1000w and place new flowering plants under it.

Let the porn begin
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Buds, buds and more buds. remember the plant on the left AKA Miss sexy is a week behind the other. those buds I think, pray are going to be monsters.
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A little hard to see, but it looks like you did a fine job on the bend. When done properly ti really opens up the light to bud sites that wouldnt get it. When done in veg it makes those off shoots and some side branches think they need to be mains and shoot straight up. Suddenly you have 5x as many bud sites all at the canopy top getting equal light. To take it even further, when coupled with hi defoliation, the even lower sites get more light and less popcorn buds.
 
Bass here a little closer. I didn't twist I just pinched well and bent over 90 or a little more. I'm willing to try this and already the tips of the branches are heading for the light and it's only been less than 2hrs since i did this.

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a little closer porn

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looks good. The thing about twisting before you bend it, or as you bend it is it will actually strengthen the branch. Think of the rope that is used to tie up a big ship to the dock. It starts out as weak ass twine but as it gets twisted it becomes stronger and stronger.

Without the twist, your branches could possibly go right back to where they were. These ones probably wont from the looks of them. But at the same time, they wont have as much added strength as a twisted burr right there would have.

One thing about this twisting and bending as it applies to strength too. A month from now, if you tried to squeeze and bend in that same spot, you would find the scar tissue has strengthened the branch so much that you can't even squeeze it. It'll be rock hard, tough as nails. But still extremely healthy and passing needed nutrients up the branch to flowers.
 
Thankyou Mr BassMan.
I like what this does so much that I went and did one more plant. This allowed me to even out my canopy and lower my lights covering all the plants equally in the veg room. My 4x8bulb t5 I was able to drop a hole ft almost and over the runts a good 6"

again thank you Smokzalot and BassMan

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Bassman59 said:
uhoh, we may have created a monster
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With my ingenuity and your 2's knowledge of cannabis I may just do alright :high-five: If I knew what I was doing I would be dangerous.

Me and the old lady have been talking about becoming caregivers in our state so this may all go in another direction here in a little while. I have a huge basement that really has nothing it it except the crap that was in the laundry storage area that is now our grow room. Many hurdles to cross. this is a completely finished basement with brand new carpeting stuckled ceilings and something we don't want to ruin and depreciate the house. this is the main reason I went hydro.

Stay tuned see what happens
 
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