RQS Creamatic, Sundae Driver And Epsilon In Coco

[Waywardwayne]

Hi! I started an indoor winter grow in Maine.

Royal creamatic
Sundae driver
Epsilon f1
All autoflower which I’m not sure I’m skilled enough for but here we go!
Germinated Oct 28

We are very excited the babies are doing good. The epsilon three days ago sort of stepped back and isn’t doing as well as the other two seedling. I don’t know why as all have had identical service.

I’m using coco and 20% perlite with pride lands amended into it, in seven gallon cloth potters. My light is a vivosun as200e which is 200 or 250 watts (I forgot). At the moment it’s on 60% at about 20-24 inches. I’ll turn it up to 75 percent for a few days before switching to the more powerful light. I leave it on 18 hours a day and this will probably not change throughout the grow. I have an unsponsored 400 watt bar light coming and will use that once out of the baby stage in a week. The tent is a 3x3x6


The three in the starter containers. They were all happy then.

After transplant

This morning

Sundae driver:

Royal creamatic:

Epsilon f1:

 

[Bill284]

Hi! I started an indoor winter grow in Maine.

Royal creamatic
Sundae driver
Epsilon f1
All autoflower which I’m not sure I’m skilled enough for but here we go!
Germinated Oct 28

We are very excited the babies are doing good. The epsilon three days ago sort of stepped back and isn’t doing as well as the other two seedling. I don’t know why as all have had identical service.

I’m using coco and 20% perlite with pride lands amended into it, in seven gallon cloth potters. My light is a vivosun as200e which is 200 or 250 watts (I forgot). At the moment it’s on 60% at about 20-24 inches. I’ll turn it up to 75 percent for a few days before switching to the more powerful light. I leave it on 18 hours a day and this will probably not change throughout the grow. I have an unsponsored 400 watt bar light coming and will use that once out of the baby stage in a week. The tent is a 3x3x6


The three in the starter containers. They were all happy then.

After transplant

This morning

Sundae driver:

Royal creamatic:

Epsilon f1:

Hey Brother
Love me some coco.




Stay safe
Bill284

 

[Waywardwayne]

Coco is pretty new to me. Well, I’ve only had recent success with it in my last grow and never used it before that. I can tell the plants like it. I like working with it way more than soil too. This will be the first time using coco indoors and the first time really using this tent setup. I’m excited about this grow, lots of new stuff to learn.

 

[Lady Cannafan]

Hi! I started an indoor winter grow in Maine.

Royal creamatic
Sundae driver
Epsilon f1
All autoflower which I’m not sure I’m skilled enough for but here we go!
Germinated Oct 28

We are very excited the babies are doing good. The epsilon three days ago sort of stepped back and isn’t doing as well as the other two seedling. I don’t know why as all have had identical service.

I’m using coco and 20% perlite with pride lands amended into it, in seven gallon cloth potters. My light is a vivosun as200e which is 200 or 250 watts (I forgot). At the moment it’s on 60% at about 20-24 inches. I’ll turn it up to 75 percent for a few days before switching to the more powerful light. I leave it on 18 hours a day and this will probably not change throughout the grow. I have an unsponsored 400 watt bar light coming and will use that once out of the baby stage in a week. The tent is a 3x3x6


The three in the starter containers. They were all happy then.

After transplant

This morning

Sundae driver:

Royal creamatic:

Epsilon f1:

Hey you! Looking forward to our differences with the Royal Creamatic for sure.
Great start!

 

[Bill284]

Coco is pretty new to me. Well, I’ve only had recent success with it in my last grow and never used it before that. I can tell the plants like it. I like working with it way more than soil too. This will be the first time using coco indoors and the first time really using this tent setup. I’m excited about this grow, lots of new stuff to learn.

Fantastic.
I'm a big proponent of coco.
None of the guess work that comes with soil.
And increased growth, win-win!
Hope everything goes well my friend.



Stay safe
Bill284

 

[Waywardwayne]

Hey you! Looking forward to our differences with the Royal Creamatic for sure.
Great start!

SAME! I think we started within a week of each other. So it’ll be great to see what progress we each make. Yeah! I think they are great seeds, hope to do them justice. I’m pretty good at germinating and seedlings but I run into trouble when they get bigger. Sorry for the small paragraph, I’m excited with all the new stuff I’ve never done going into this grow and having your journal to follow by coincidence.

 

[Lady Cannafan]

SAME! I think we started within a week of each other. So it’ll be great to see what progress we each make. Yeah! I think they are great seeds, hope to do them justice. I’m pretty good at germinating and seedlings but I run into trouble when they get bigger. Sorry for the small paragraph, I’m excited with all the new stuff I’ve never done going into this grow and having your journal to follow by coincidence.

Yeah, I'm excited too. @Roy Growin said it was a helluva smoke.
I have a time lapse vid going at the moment with another one coming up from a root riot cube. It's looking like it's going to be pretty cool. I can almost sit and watch that little kid stretching out of it. Fingers crossed nothing goes awry with the video. LOL

 

[Waywardwayne]

Yeah, I'm excited too. @Roy Growin said it was a helluva smoke.
I have a time lapse vid going at the moment with another one coming up from a root riot cube. It's looking like it's going to be pretty cool. I can almost sit and watch that little kid stretching out of it. Fingers crossed nothing goes awry with the video. LOL

I felt the same way, could actually see them growing! I’m all over his thread reading up too. He’s also got some tricks up his sleeve with cooking as well. The time lapse is awesome, that type of photography is too advanced for me, I hope yours turns out well. How magical to have that when it’s all said and done and you have the harvest ready to consume.

 

[Melville Hobbes]

 

[Waywardwayne]

Hey Melville!

 

[Roy Growin]

Mind if I follow along?

 

[Waywardwayne]

Mind if I follow along?

Not at all

 

[Waywardwayne]

New light came in and I couldn’t help but install it early. It’s 400 watts in a 3x3. No bells and whistles like a dinner but it has two switches so it can have 3 or 6 or all the bars on or off. It’s a monster for this tent. Wondering if heat will be an issue but also realize winter in three days away in Maine.

In this pic you can also see the trick I use to get a little more space in the tent and not allow the walls to collapse in, it’s just a piece of 1/2 inch pex pipe holding it open like a spring. If anyone out there tried this get a straight piece not a coil. In this journal I will observe its performance over the grow.

Creamatic and sundae driver are doing excellent I think. They seem to have started really trotting along.

The epsilon…. I don’t understand, all three plants have had the exact same environment and treatment. But the epsilon is not happy at all. So I stuck an “el diablo” from northwest seeds in a paper towel. If the diablo does better than the epsilon, the epsilon will have to go.

 

[Melville Hobbes]

Is Epsilon growing slower than the others, or just looking droopy?

 

[Waywardwayne]

Is Epsilon growing slower than the others, or just looking droopy?

Yes! Slower and droopy. Here’s a comparison lighter vs epsilon:

Then lighter vs creamatic:.

Creamatic has much more mass and just looks way better. I don’t know where to start to try and dial in the issue so I’ve planted a backup. But if she can be saved I would love to keep her.

 

[Bill284]

Yes! Slower and droopy. Here’s a comparison lighter vs epsilon:

Then lighter vs creamatic:.

Creamatic has much more mass and just looks way better. I don’t know where to start to try and dial in the issue so I’ve planted a backup. But if she can be saved I would love to keep her.

Are you feeding her in an ever increasing circle daily? At 5.8 ph?




Stay safe
Bill284

 

[Melville Hobbes]

It really looks like a watering issue, but I can’t tell which.
The coco looks really dry, but after transplant it looks like it took longer for her coco to dry out.
That pale first true leaf caught my eye too.

 

[Waywardwayne]

Are you feeding her in an ever increasing circle daily? At 5.8 ph?




Stay safe
Bill284

It’s hard for me to dial a number in precisely but I’ve only watered twice with a ph of 6. I mixed the fertilizer into the coco and won’t be feeding other than water and perhaps cal mag. The bag said I could and I measured it out correctly. One thing I did was use old coco on the top 4 or 5 inches over brand new coco. That was done because I didn’t have enough for all three pots to have fresh coco all the way to the top. The old coco I didn’t amend with the fertilizer, I just added it to the top.

It really looks like a watering issue, but I can’t tell which.
The coco looks really dry, but after transplant it looks like it took longer for her coco to dry out.
That pale first true leaf caught my eye too.

I thought it was lack of water at first and added a little to see if that would do anything. It didn’t. It is dry for the first couple inches but has damp coco under that. I am holding off watering now untill they all need it again. These are seven gallon pots and they are holding a lot of water till the babies start to drink more.


Another idea is that I may have damaged the roots when I transplanted her. I didn’t notice anything and it seems to go without any issue it’s just another idea.

I’ve been keeping vpd between .7 and 1.2 because I have the tools to monitor it I figured I would do what I can to keep it in range some.

 

[Bill284]

It’s hard for me to dial a number in precisely but I’ve only watered twice with a ph of 6. I mixed the fertilizer into the coco and won’t be feeding other than water and perhaps cal mag. The bag said I could and I measured it out correctly. One thing I did was use old coco on the top 4 or 5 inches over brand new coco. That was done because I didn’t have enough for all three pots to have fresh coco all the way to the top. The old coco I didn’t amend with the fertilizer, I just added it to the top.

I thought it was lack of water at first and added a little to see if that would do anything. It didn’t. It is dry for the first couple inches but has damp coco under that. I am holding off watering now untill they all need it again. These are seven gallon pots and they are holding a lot of water till the babies start to drink more.


Another idea is that I may have damaged the roots when I transplanted her. I didn’t notice anything and it seems to go without any issue it’s just another idea.

I’ve been keeping vpd between .7 and 1.2 because I have the tools to monitor it I figured I would do what I can to keep it in range some.

What fertilizer?
Never give coco water, never.
And feed every day.
Coco is hydrophobic.
If it dries at all it repels moisture.
Then nutrients just pour out and don’t feed anything.
Get a proper ph meter with up and down solution.
Then feed full strength nutrients every day until a little comes out the bottom at 5.8 ph.


Stay safe
Bill284