Yeah there are from seed and I am using cfl's..I have 1 40w 2700k in the middle straight down.then on the side I have light socket with a splitter and the side toward the middle is a 40w 6500 know and on the other side of the splitter is another 2 way splitter with 1 23w 2700k and 1 23w 6500k and it's the same on the otherside..I am using cfl'so to flower with but there's gonadotropin be more 2700k bulbs then 6500k plus one 125w 2700k..and yeah I'm flowering in those pots.the one on the right is a smart pot 5 gal and the other is a 5 gal pot..I just transplanted them from 2 gal pots about 3 days ago...the thing that shocks me is the distance between nodes..there packed on there..it's almost 11'in and has almost 9 bodes..and where the bottom nodes come off the stem it looks like the branch is coming out of a knockel..also I keep my lights about 2 to 3 in away from the top at all times..give me one second I will post pics