organicweeds
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Potassium and phosphorus deficiency I would say.
Organic for the WIN!
Organic for the WIN!
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What Strain is it? unknown bag seeds
Is it Indica, Sativa or Hybrid? What percentages? no idea
How Many Plants? 1 in flower, in veg are 6 clones off her, and 3 more from seed
Is it in Vegetative or Flowering Stage? ...
If in Vegetative Stage... How Long? clones about 6 weeks, from seed about 10 weeks
If in Flowering Stage... How Long? since October 22nd
Indoor or Outdoor? indoor
Soil or Hydro? FF Happy Frog
Ihf Hydro, Reservoir size?
If Hydro, Reservoir Temperature?
If Hydro, what type of Medium?
If Hydro, what type of Setup?
If Soil... What is in your Mix? straight Happy Frog
If Soil... What Size Pot? over 5 gallons in flower, clones in 1 gallon and 3 gallon, from seed in 5 gallon
Size (Wattage) of Light? How Many? single 1000w Mh 18/6 in veg, single Sodium in flower 12/12
Is it Air Cooled? no
Temperature of Room/Cabinet? 70f to 85f
RH of Room/Cabinet? 40% to 55%
PH of Medium or Reservoir? Ph has been a problem, a week ago i finally got it stable at 6.5 to 7.0 going in, runoff is 7.0+, flushed the flowering plant with 10 gallons of Ph'd water November 20th
Any Pests? Azamax treated for spidermites 2 weeks ago and 3 weeks ago, nothing seen since
How Often are you Watering? when light and dry, weighing on digital scale, on average 2 or 3 times per plant per week
Type and Strength of Fertilizers used? RODI water, Botanicare CalMag, FF Big Grow/FF Big Bloom at feed chart strength
Size or Square Footage of Room? 20 sq/ft each flower and veg rooms with reflector film all around
I just found out that FF Big Bloom is NOT the nutrient for flower phase. I will be buying something new in 2 days. I am open to suggestions within reasonable cost range. I can't afford top of the line stuff right now. I fed the flower plant with worm tea instead of Big Bloom yesterday,and I did feed the veg room with Big Bloom added. I am extremely new to this and have no one guiding me. I want help, but please don't use the abbreviations and slang normally seen on forum boards as I will not understand what you are saying. I will follow directions so please don't feel that this will be a waste of time. My photos are saved in members gallery.
Thank you in advance for your help
Is it Indica, Sativa or Hybrid? What percentages? no idea
How Many Plants? 1 in flower, in veg are 6 clones off her, and 3 more from seed
Is it in Vegetative or Flowering Stage? ...
If in Vegetative Stage... How Long? clones about 6 weeks, from seed about 10 weeks
If in Flowering Stage... How Long? since October 22nd
Indoor or Outdoor? indoor
Soil or Hydro? FF Happy Frog
Ihf Hydro, Reservoir size?
If Hydro, Reservoir Temperature?
If Hydro, what type of Medium?
If Hydro, what type of Setup?
If Soil... What is in your Mix? straight Happy Frog
If Soil... What Size Pot? over 5 gallons in flower, clones in 1 gallon and 3 gallon, from seed in 5 gallon
Size (Wattage) of Light? How Many? single 1000w Mh 18/6 in veg, single Sodium in flower 12/12
Is it Air Cooled? no
Temperature of Room/Cabinet? 70f to 85f
RH of Room/Cabinet? 40% to 55%
PH of Medium or Reservoir? Ph has been a problem, a week ago i finally got it stable at 6.5 to 7.0 going in, runoff is 7.0+, flushed the flowering plant with 10 gallons of Ph'd water November 20th
Any Pests? Azamax treated for spidermites 2 weeks ago and 3 weeks ago, nothing seen since
How Often are you Watering? when light and dry, weighing on digital scale, on average 2 or 3 times per plant per week
Type and Strength of Fertilizers used? RODI water, Botanicare CalMag, FF Big Grow/FF Big Bloom at feed chart strength
Size or Square Footage of Room? 20 sq/ft each flower and veg rooms with reflector film all around
I just found out that FF Big Bloom is NOT the nutrient for flower phase. I will be buying something new in 2 days. I am open to suggestions within reasonable cost range. I can't afford top of the line stuff right now. I fed the flower plant with worm tea instead of Big Bloom yesterday,and I did feed the veg room with Big Bloom added. I am extremely new to this and have no one guiding me. I want help, but please don't use the abbreviations and slang normally seen on forum boards as I will not understand what you are saying. I will follow directions so please don't feel that this will be a waste of time. My photos are saved in members gallery.
Thank you in advance for your help
KingstonRabbi
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Good info, but picture of whole plant would help. Important to know how many leaves and which leaves are affected.
3 things I see in your details above.
Watering 2-3 time a week is a lot. Cannabis needs to dry out almost completely. Also does much better if each watering thoroughly soaks soil. Watering frequently with less water doesn't let roots fill the soil. You are weighing which is good. Do you compare to weight of pot of dry soil? Plants should be no more than 10% more than completely dry weight before watering.
pH needs to be below 7.0 or at least no higher than that. High pH can cause nutrient lock out.
Big Bloom should be used in both veg and flower. It's not strong enough to feed flowring plant by itself though. Tiger Bloom should be used with it in flower.
Everything else above looks good.
3 things I see in your details above.
Watering 2-3 time a week is a lot. Cannabis needs to dry out almost completely. Also does much better if each watering thoroughly soaks soil. Watering frequently with less water doesn't let roots fill the soil. You are weighing which is good. Do you compare to weight of pot of dry soil? Plants should be no more than 10% more than completely dry weight before watering.
pH needs to be below 7.0 or at least no higher than that. High pH can cause nutrient lock out.
Big Bloom should be used in both veg and flower. It's not strong enough to feed flowring plant by itself though. Tiger Bloom should be used with it in flower.
Everything else above looks good.
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I always weigh them when i repot, and write it down, before i water them in. If I am in doubt I wait another day before watering, and i always water until it runs out the bottom, and then i empty the run-off trays an hour later.
Ph has been stabilized between 6.5 and 7.0 never higher.
I will get some Tiger Bloom tomorrow and I will post better pictures this afternoon.
Ph has been stabilized between 6.5 and 7.0 never higher.
I will get some Tiger Bloom tomorrow and I will post better pictures this afternoon.
LLHmaryjane
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Seems like you are doing a lot of things right!! I bet the problem is nutrient lock out due to the PH issues, which I have experienced when everything else is right but my plants are doing shitty. So, if your drainage water is at a ph of 7, you probably should drop your water down a little so your drainage is around 6.5 and you should flush until your drainage water is at that number or slightly lower. ph of 7 is neutral and I found my plants don't like it for very long. Some nutrients are absorbed better with a little higher ph than others so keeping a range is best and natural. Personally, I would stop nutrients for two weeks, flush with ph corrected water until you get your soil ph back in line, then you can start adding nutrients again slowly, while keeping a close eye on the ph. Once I got my ph back in line, the nutrients worked quickly and my plants recovered beautifully. I plucked off the bad leaves a couple every other day, so I could keep track of the new leaves and make sure the problem was corrected. Your Happy Frog soil provides a lot of nutrients for your clones and smaller plants, I wouldn't add too much nutrients at all until they get 3-4 weeks old. Adding some fresh dirt to your flowering pots if you have some room at the tops, will give your plants more natural nutrient boost and can help balance your ph also in the interim of continued chemical nutes until your plants recover. Hope this helps, keep us posted.
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KingstonRabbi
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I see drooping leaves but not drooping petioles. Thats a sign of overwatering. Even though you are weighing I suspect you need to let them dry out more. Water ends up pooling at the bottom of container even though top is dry and light. When plants need water they droop at petioles and bounce back in 5 min after watering. MajorPITA has a classic post on difference between over and under watered plants. When you do water don't let pot sit in run-off. Tilt the pot to make sure all the excess water drains out. If you think it needs more water do it from the top, recycling the run-off is okay with plain water, could lead to salt build up with nutes in water.
It could also be related to pH, but that's not my specialty. All I can say is it should be lower and stable, but you already know that.
Once those two things are cleared up you may still have a deficiency, but if it's caused by either of above adding nutes now would actually increase problem. So we need to wait on that.
She looks strong enough to bounce back without long term problems, so that's encouraging. Keep us posted on progress.
It could also be related to pH, but that's not my specialty. All I can say is it should be lower and stable, but you already know that.
Once those two things are cleared up you may still have a deficiency, but if it's caused by either of above adding nutes now would actually increase problem. So we need to wait on that.
She looks strong enough to bounce back without long term problems, so that's encouraging. Keep us posted on progress.
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After spending some time at my local hydroponics store, the simple answer is that I was starving my plants AND forcing them into drought conditions. I am now watering more often and feeding them with General Hydroponics Veg / Bloom products. All plants have seriously perked up, leaves have completely greened up again and there is no more leaf curling. Thankfully all my plants now look superb, green, healthy and fresh.
