Outdoor Organic Balcony Stealth Quadlining: White Widow/Gorgonzola

Some skinny about cannabis drought applications as I see things;

The application of late bloom drought improves cannabinoid yields in both foliar and floral materials.

The early application of drought is counter productive to florescence production. (smaller flowers)

The repetitive applications of drought stress are counter productive.

The indication of leaf wilt (LWA) is the measured angle between the petiole and the branch.

The turgid state is measured LWA when the cultivar is fully fertigated and healthy. This is your zero mark for LWA readings.

Attaining a measured LWA of 50 degrees wilt indicates full recognition of drought by the cultivars GRN satisfying our target stress. The GRN will have fully altered the homeostasis of hormones thereby re-directing the needed proteins in the synthesis of essential oils. The plant will use the essential oils to protect reproductive assets (seeds) from moisture loss.

Attaining measured LWA of less than 50 degrees during drought application presents a linear drop in additional oil production. (less time/intensity in stress = less extra juice)

Substrate composition will change mean drying times but does not impair LWA accuracy. Quicker drying mediums tend to produce the more drastic improvements in cannabinoid yields. LOS and other slower drying substrates can be utilized reducing targeted stress goals.

The process can be tweaked for any medium, but not all strains. This is all genetically controlled by the plants GRN.

Any ? don't hesitate my friends.

So, in an English walnutshell, "late bloom drought" = stopping watering two weeks before harvest can, in some strains, enhance cannabiniod production. This isn't something you want to do multiple times over the life of the plant, just once at the end of the flowering. This does not work for all strains.

Maritimer, thanks for your thoughts. Is there any way to know which strains perform well here?
 
So, in an English walnutshell, "late bloom drought" = stopping watering two weeks before harvest can, in some strains, enhance cannabiniod production. This isn't something you want to do multiple times over the life of the plant, just once at the end of the flowering. This does not work for all strains.

Maritimer, thanks for your thoughts. Is there any way to know which strains perform well here?
well said my friend,
hope you have been well.

Top strains so far have been Northern Lights, Critical Jack, Forest Dream, GG#4, OGGSC. Cheese.
Strains not hip so far are Cali Orange, Purple Urkel, and we hear AK47.

Your in England if I remember. Go with the Northern Lights, the buds will stick to the wall like a cooked pasta noodle. Awesome medicine. :bongrip:
 
well said my friend,
hope you have been well.

Top strains so far have been Northern Lights, Critical Jack, Forest Dream, GG#4, OGGSC. Cheese.
Strains not hip so far are Cali Orange, Purple Urkel, and we hear AK47.

Your in England if I remember. Go with the Northern Lights, the buds will stick to the wall like a cooked pasta noodle. Awesome medicine. :bongrip:

Thanks Maritimer for the tip on the strains. It must take experimentation with the particular strain to deterimine if this trick will work. Next stop, Northern Lights!

England? No, I'm from California. But I have an English walnut tree outside. I wanted to summarize, you know, as "in a nutshell" and "in plain English". Somehow, "in an English walnutshell" came to mind. No confusion intended!
:hippy:
 
Attaining a measured LWA of 50 degrees wilt indicates full recognition of drought by the cultivars GRN satisfying our target stress.
So...I was going to ask about the 11 day drought mark since my ProMix HP plants can't get anywhere near that, and then you said:
Substrate composition will change mean drying times but does not impair LWA accuracy. Quicker drying mediums tend to produce the more drastic improvements in cannabinoid yields.
So I'm actually better off with a fast drying medium it seems, as I can get this done in a much smaller window?
we hear AK47
If that was my AK-47, we ran that test back when we thought 11 days was important so I watered again after it drooped. I have no idea if anything special happened to that plant because the thought was that it was an aborted test.

If that wasn't my AK-47, never mind!
 
Thanks Maritimer for the tip on the strains. It must take experimentation with the particular strain to deterimine if this trick will work. Next stop, Northern Lights!

England? No, I'm from California. But I have an English walnut tree outside. I wanted to summarize, you know, as "in a nutshell" and "in plain English". Somehow, "in an English walnutshell" came to mind. No confusion intended!
:hippy:
LMAO,,, California is was my next thought.

An English walnut tree ya say.
Consider this my friend;
The gathering of new growth foliar material, cold water soaked to encourage the departure of insects is then rinsed thoroughly and placed into mason jars filled with fresh ro water and sealed. Store away from sunlight (both direct and indirect) at room temperature. Walnut trees are excellent producers of both ABA and SA phyto's you can draw from your home made brass.

The American Sycamore is my favorite, even over the willow that is often one's first thought in brass crafting.

If nothing else, you could mail me an ounce and I will reimburse your costs and efforts.
 
So...I was going to ask about the 11 day drought mark since my ProMix HP plants can't get anywhere near that, and then you said:

So I'm actually better off with a fast drying medium it seems, as I can get this done in a much smaller window?

If that was my AK-47, we ran that test back when we thought 11 days was important so I watered again after it drooped. I have no idea if anything special happened to that plant because the thought was that it was an aborted test.

If that wasn't my AK-47, never mind!
It was your AK-47 I referred to, so we need visit that strain again.
You are in the identical substrate (Pro-Mix HP) that was utilized during the doctors experiments. I am presently running droughts in @farside05 faux pro-mix hp. A very quick dry. The moisture meter shows complete dry in about 4 days at 11 inches below surface. Did you see that Alaskan Purple picture I posted that I ran drought for 9 days. Every bit as resinous as the GG#4 and that popped for a sixteen percent squish yield.

Let me know if you give it another go. :)
 
It was your AK-47 I referred to, so we need visit that strain again.
You are in the identical substrate (Pro-Mix HP) that was utilized during the doctors experiments. I am presently running droughts in @farside05 faux pro-mix hp. A very quick dry. The moisture meter shows complete dry in about 4 days at 11 inches below surface. Did you see that Alaskan Purple picture I posted that I ran drought for 9 days. Every bit as resinous as the GG#4 and that popped for a sixteen percent squish yield.

Let me know if you give it another go. :)
It is interesting and it makes sense that a quick drying substrate would work well to regularly give the plant drying out phases that we can use for drought stress. My home made super soil mix is probably not especially quick drying on it's own, for aeration it has coarse pumice and perlite but not quite up to a third of the mix as it seemed expensive to buy here. However my pots have been extensively drilled out and I have noticed how quickly as a result they dry out. I think it was on a post by @Emilya where she had measured the soil in a cloth/fabric container I guess would be something similar that I think from memory went down to something like 18% moisture after 12 hours from presumably 100%.
 
Yes,
Thanks Stunger,
One last thought I should share. This process will take a hybrid like Forest Dream and totally change the high. The Sativa/Indica genetics normally allow for an uplifting and energetic high, but after drought you can expect "couch lock" night time medicine effects. Just what a chronic pain guy like me needs 24/7. max punch

Thanks again
 
Looks like I'm out of the contest then. The last thing I need is more couch lock weed!
I thought I remembered you mentioning that before somewhere. Cool Beans :bongrip:
 
General Update

All 3 plants are very close to being given the chop, most likely over the weekend, stealth and weather permitting as there some rain ahead. They've been getting a fair bit of wind on them these past few days, hopefully adding to the drought stress. There is a mixture of trichomes depending on where you look on the plant - clear/cloudy, cloudy & amber. Here are a few pics showing the general look of the cola tops and the closeups of the trichomes, for me they about where I want them. I have been taking off lower buds off 2-WW & 3-WWG and fast drying them as needed, 2-WW was always about a week ahead of her step sister and is very nicely potent and a little more that 3-WWG perhaps whose a tad behind, altho it is hard to say because I have only been taking the lower popcorn buds that I left on for the purpose. The Gorilla Glue auto I haven't sampled yet, I'm saving her for last! :hookah:

The wind was blowing them about a bit and it was hard to get clear shots.

1-GGa Gorilla Glue auto



2-WW White Widow XTRM




3-WWG White Widow XTRM/Gorgonzola




 
Yes,
Thanks Stunger,
One last thought I should share. This process will take a hybrid like Forest Dream and totally change the high. The Sativa/Indica genetics normally allow for an uplifting and energetic high, but after drought you can expect "couch lock" night time medicine effects. Just what a chronic pain guy like me needs 24/7. max punch

Thanks again

Oh! Thanks for sharing that, Maritimer!
:goodjob:
 
General Update

All 3 plants are very close to being given the chop, most likely over the weekend, stealth and weather permitting as there some rain ahead. They've been getting a fair bit of wind on them these past few days, hopefully adding to the drought stress. There is a mixture of trichomes depending on where you look on the plant - clear/cloudy, cloudy & amber. Here are a few pics showing the general look of the cola tops and the closeups of the trichomes, for me they about where I want them. I have been taking off lower buds off 2-WW & 3-WWG and fast drying them as needed, 2-WW was always about a week ahead of her step sister and is very nicely potent and a little more that 3-WWG perhaps whose a tad behind, altho it is hard to say because I have only been taking the lower popcorn buds that I left on for the purpose. The Gorilla Glue auto I haven't sampled yet, I'm saving her for last! :hookah:

The wind was blowing them about a bit and it was hard to get clear shots.

1-GGa Gorilla Glue auto



2-WW White Widow XTRM




3-WWG White Widow XTRM/Gorgonzola



They look beautiful, Koro!
And they are in fantastic condition. I bring mine in kicking and screaming, mainly. Yours appear to be loving it!
I’m excited for your harvest Stunger. You’ll be trimming a while :yummy:
Nice work, man. Well done.
 
They look beautiful, Koro!
And they are in fantastic condition. I bring mine in kicking and screaming, mainly. Yours appear to be loving it!
I’m excited for your harvest Stunger. You’ll be trimming a while :yummy:
Nice work, man. Well done.
Cheers DD, there's been a few mishaps/learnings along the way but hopefully the experiences can be used to improve the next grow!
Nice journal Stunger.

Congrats on the harvest, beautiful plants. :bravo:
Thanks Piña, at times it's been a bit like threading a needle in the dark, but alls well that ends well eh. Cheers. :hookah:
 
End of grow harvest update

I have been watching closely the development of the trichomes and condition of the plants in general in preparation to decide when to harvest. All 3 plants are showing clear, cloudy and amber trichomes. I feel their level now is about where I want them. We have some colder weather coming and if it was still dry days ahead I would probably wait a little longer as I like the purpling that the White Widow (2-WW) that develops when the temps drop. Currently, we're in the middle of Autumn here in NZ and the long dry sunny weather has been replaced by a patch of cooler damp drizzly weather. With more rain expected I gave them the chop this morning. I would have preferred to have chopped at the end of a nice sunny day when any dampness has been dried off them, but there hasn't been a lot of stealthy gardening time for my grow in lockdown so you take your chances!

I thought I could avoid the kicking and screaming that @DonkeyDick has to go thru when his girls get the chop. But when the end came it wasn't elegant, I had intended to cut the plants out whole with some of their root balls intact that I could wash off in a bucket of water I had at the ready, in a whole plant dry like @nickeluring does in his excellent's grows . Altho I used a knife to try and cut them out I couldn't get thru the thick tap roots, and I didn't want to be caught on the balcony having a tug of war trying to uproot them without making a spectacle and covering myself with dirt which the wife would go nuts about if I bought back thru the house. So I just cut them off at the base after first untethering all the Quadlining/LST wires from the plants.

On 3 colas of 2-WW I found caterpillar damage had caused some small parts to die which in the recent damp weather had began to mold. It was no more than 5 - 6 grams thankfully. I had previously cut 2 similar small bits off for the same. I did carry out a number of BT sprays for caterpillars during the grow which worked well but I only did them ad-hoc. Next grow I will do regular spraying for these pests, like probably every 1 - 2 weeks. I even did a late spray perhaps 2-3 weeks ago that included insecticide soap, Dr Bronner's Castille and Neem oil, and I can report back that the quick dried samples of bud that I have since tested, that I couldn't detect any Neem after taste/smell, so that was reassuring. The ad hoc spraying I did worked well, but it wasn't enough, some caterpillars still got some play time in the buds, it would have been even better to have done it to a schedule, as both @Emeraldo and @InTheShed had recommended. It just isn't worth have those little buggers wrecking havoc on your hard work and depriving you of the future pleasure of smoking it.

The really undignified part came next for these 3 ladies. To avoid fumigating the house with their ripe dankness and incurring level 4 wrath of the wife, I threw all 3 of them over the balcony to land on the tiles below. It is now feels quite strange to have an empty balcony when I have enjoyed the view of it being full of cannabis these past months.

Here are a few of the last pics taken (not the greatest) but closeups of their Trichomes before chopping. Depending on where you look they all have amounts of clear, cloudy and amber trichomes with possibly the White Widow XTRM/Gorgonzola cross (3-WWG) showing the most clear trichomes remaining. The White Widow XTRM (2-WW) shows some colorful purpling from the drop in overnight temperatures.

1-GGa Gorilla Glue Auto prior to chopping - 111 days since sprouting






2-WW White Widow XTRM prior to chopping





3-WWG White Widow XTRM/Gorgonzola prior to chopping






All 3 girls hanging out together after chopping.


Anyway, just the wait for the plants to dry now before trimming and jarring.
Stay safe and well everyone.:hookah:
 
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