One conversation not to bring up

[Jackalope]

It seems that there is a subject that is best not to bring up around me. Pot or pot genetics.

Through almost everything else in life I am pretty quiet. Ask me one little question about pot and I will ramble for hours if not stopped. I am beginning to consider it like binge talking LMAO. At least in the right situation anyway.

Pretty sure it is because I don't get to talk about it very often. Once the right person asks one simple question I will ramble of as much info as I can before they change the subject LMAO.

Am I the only one with this affliction?

 

[Barney86]

Phew thank god for that. Thought you were gonna mention the "f" word that people do to toilets haha.
I'm like that with a lot of things though. Pest control mostly. Used to do it for a living but only dealt with commercial sites, no aggraculture so sadly not a skill that gives me any help with growing weed.
Know everything there is to know about rats, mice, wasps, bedbugs, all that stuff but sadly thrips, spidermites and funghus gnats just aren't covered in the job so never learned.
Can tell you how to deal with any city dweller problems though

 

[Emilya Green]

Phew thank god for that. Thought you were gonna mention the "f" word that people do to toilets haha.
I'm like that with a lot of things though. Pest control mostly. Used to do it for a living but only dealt with commercial sites, no aggraculture so sadly not a skill that gives me any help with growing weed.
Know everything there is to know about rats, mice, wasps, bedbugs, all that stuff but sadly thrips, spidermites and funghus gnats just aren't covered in the job so never learned.
Can tell you how to deal with any city dweller problems though

This happened to pop up at the right time! We recently made a purchase through one of the big online furniture places of a 2 section twin bed box spring. They are wooden structures enclosed with plastic endcaps keeping a fiber bottom and a plastic and fiber wrap in place. The dang thing came to my door with bedbugs living in it. Luckily we spotted this problem right away, and instead of sending it back with a stern letter, we just sent the letter, but kept the infested unit, placed it way out in the backyard hoping the Missouri heat and sunshine would get to them, and hoped for the best.
As you probably already predicted, the bugs have survived this attack and have retreated to the dark innards of both sections of the boxes.
We have thought about stripping all the wrappings off and then taking it to the carwash to wash out what we could, and then spray it with something. I would hate to just throw this away and am hoping that I can for sure eradicate this infestation... or these are not coming into my house.
What would you do?

 

[Remystemple]

I would have sent the mattress back, and pretty sure that's what most people would do. I'm afraid to ask, but why the hell would you keep an infested mattress?

 

[Emilya Green]

I would have sent the mattress back, and pretty sure that's what most people would do. I'm afraid to ask, but why the hell would you keep an infested mattress?

because online advice said it can be fixed and don't throw it away... and frankly, I didn't want to put the bugs in my car and thought it would be easy to break their lifecycle out there in the yard with no blood to suck on. I understood that they can't reproduce without that blood. I didn't take into account that they can live for a long long time without feeding on mammals...
Lots of advice out there how to fix this... I just want to hear how a pro would do it. I am thinking stripping it, washing it out and then putting it in an airtight bag with a bug bomb. If they can still survive all that, then I am good with plan B, throwing them away. I am already resolved to never order from W**F**R again.

 

[DrDoob]

because online advice said it can be fixed and don't throw it away... and frankly, I didn't want to put the bugs in my car and thought it would be easy to break their lifecycle out there in the yard with no blood to suck on. I understood that they can't reproduce without that blood. I didn't take into account that they can live for a long long time without feeding on mammals...
Lots of advice out there how to fix this... I just want to hear how a pro would do it. I am thinking stripping it, washing it out and then putting it in an airtight bag with a bug bomb. If they can still survive all that, then I am good with plan B, throwing them away. I am already resolved to never order from W**F**R again.

On Amazon they sell these tents that are actually just grow tents. They put heaters in them along with your infected furniture at 118°f for a couple hours and the bugs die. Maybe you can do something similar? Other than that I guess poison is probably your only option.

 

[Barney86]

This happened to pop up at the right time! We recently made a purchase through one of the big online furniture places of a 2 section twin bed box spring. They are wooden structures enclosed with plastic endcaps keeping a fiber bottom and a plastic and fiber wrap in place. The dang thing came to my door with bedbugs living in it. Luckily we spotted this problem right away, and instead of sending it back with a stern letter, we just sent the letter, but kept the infested unit, placed it way out in the backyard hoping the Missouri heat and sunshine would get to them, and hoped for the best.
As you probably already predicted, the bugs have survived this attack and have retreated to the dark innards of both sections of the boxes.
We have thought about stripping all the wrappings off and then taking it to the carwash to wash out what we could, and then spray it with something. I would hate to just throw this away and am hoping that I can for sure eradicate this infestation... or these are not coming into my house.
What would you do?

Yaaaaayyy love bedbugs. One of the best average pays in pest control lol.

Before worrying about the infested units outside.
Were they ever inside?
If so, do you have pets of any sort, children or anything other than healthy, fit adults in the house?
Insecticides will kill cats and fish just as quickly as they kill bugs. Make your kids plenty sick too if inhaled even in small doses.
Healthy adults just get a reeeeaaaalllyy bad flu for a day or 2 but bed bug blitzers can be lethal to small kids and old folks.
The usual insect stuff is really unreliable and the things are as tough as cockroaches so you need to use propper gear.
Theres 3 main things youll need.
One of them in almost certain you'll already have because of the organic thing.
Many non growers have the second one too as it's a household item.
The third you'll need to buy and probably costs about £50.
But I'll tell you once you've answered.
Safety first and all that

Also, How did you get them home?

1 pregnant female can result in a population of thousands within 8-10 weeks so gotta cover all the bases and check everything and everywhere they've been. Can't remember the official life line without a feed but it's at least 4-6 months. Probably longer.
They don't need people to survive and can empty their bodies so they can fit quite easily between the fibres in your bedsheets. can get literally anywhere just about.
Not to worry you but no point advising untill I got the background
It's easy to get them in one if you do it right but it can be time consuming depending on where they've been.

 

[The Bard]

because online advice said it can be fixed and don't throw it away... and frankly, I didn't want to put the bugs in my car and thought it would be easy to break their lifecycle out there in the yard with no blood to suck on. I understood that they can't reproduce without that blood. I didn't take into account that they can live for a long long time without feeding on mammals...
Lots of advice out there how to fix this... I just want to hear how a pro would do it. I am thinking stripping it, washing it out and then putting it in an airtight bag with a bug bomb. If they can still survive all that, then I am good with plan B, throwing them away. I am already resolved to never order from W**F**R again.

They are notoriously difficult to kill. Personally, I wouldn't want it anywhere near me, my pets, or my house. Once they move in, good luck.

 

[Emilya Green]

On Amazon they sell these tents that are actually just grow tents. They put heaters in them along with your infected furniture at 118°f for a couple hours and the bugs die. Maybe you can do something similar? Other than that I guess poison is probably your only option.

You only have to heat them up that much? That would be easy. I found it amusing how fast they die in direct sunlight, but infuriating how good they are at getting away from that sunlight in furniture

 

[The Bard]

Phew thank god for that. Thought you were gonna mention the "f" word that people do to toilets haha.
I'm like that with a lot of things though. Pest control mostly. Used to do it for a living but only dealt with commercial sites, no aggraculture so sadly not a skill that gives me any help with growing weed.
Know everything there is to know about rats, mice, wasps, bedbugs, all that stuff but sadly thrips, spidermites and funghus gnats just aren't covered in the job so never learned.
Can tell you how to deal with any city dweller problems though

The "f" word you mention, along with tent lighting choices, seems to bring out the most vigorous debates here, that sometimes turn ugly. Passions run high on those topics!

 

[Emilya Green]

They did get inside, as far as the spare bedroom they were going into. They were in the shipping box for a day and then in unpacking and starting to assemble the bed, we noticed the problem and as gently as we could, moved everything outside. We then vacuumed the rooms this traveled through and have placed Diatomaceous Earth in the wells of the bed risers in that room, washed the foam mattress cover and any bedding. We have also used a long lasting general purpose bug spray around the edges of that room, and so far so good, no bugs have been seen.
We do have a dog who sleeps in another area of the house, but who has been in this area, sleeping on the carpet in that room. My radio room is right next door to this room, and we do spend quite a lot of time in there, so I am looking closely at the cloth bound office chairs in there too.

 

[DrDoob]

You only have to heat them up that much? That would be easy. I found it amusing how fast they die in direct sunlight, but infuriating how good they are at getting away from that sunlight in furniture

I’ve never done it but after coming across their “tents” I was interested enough to read up on it. I remember they said 118° Is their limit.

 

[Emilya Green]

I’ve never done it but after coming across their “tents” I was interested enough to read up on it. I remember they said 118° Is their limit.

I would bet that in a plastic bag on top of a black tarp, one could heat those boxes up to a right toasty temperature in the sun, ala mother nature.

 

[DrDoob]

I would bet that in a plastic bag on top of a black tarp, one could heat those boxes up to a right toasty temperature in the sun, ala mother nature.

Exactly what I was thinking, I just looked it up and it says 90 minutes at 118° should do it. If it was me, I’d try it for a few hours at least.

 

[The Bard]

They did get inside, as far as the spare bedroom they were going into. They were in the shipping box for a day and then in unpacking and starting to assemble the bed, we noticed the problem and as gently as we could, moved everything outside. We then vacuumed the rooms this traveled through and have placed Diatomaceous Earth in the wells of the bed risers in that room, washed the foam mattress cover and any bedding. We have also used a long lasting general purpose bug spray around the edges of that room, and so far so good, no bugs have been seen.
We do have a dog who sleeps in another area of the house, but who has been in this area, sleeping on the carpet in that room. My radio room is right next door to this room, and we do spend quite a lot of time in there, so I am looking closely at the cloth bound office chairs in there too.

Whew! Sounds like you have it under control.

 

[DrDoob]

It seems that there is a subject that is best not to bring up around me. Pot or pot genetics.

Through almost everything else in life I am pretty quiet. Ask me one little question about pot and I will ramble for hours if not stopped. I am beginning to consider it like binge talking LMAO. At least in the right situation anyway.

Pretty sure it is because I don't get to talk about it very often. Once the right person asks one simple question I will ramble of as much info as I can before they change the subject LMAO.

Am I the only one with this affliction?

And back on topic, I’m the exact same way. My friends all know to never bring up the topic of growing and always give me death stares if someone does. I’m worse than the people with their kid, vacation and dog pictures.

 

[Alafornia]

This happened to pop up at the right time! We recently made a purchase through one of the big online furniture places of a 2 section twin bed box spring. They are wooden structures enclosed with plastic endcaps keeping a fiber bottom and a plastic and fiber wrap in place. The dang thing came to my door with bedbugs living in it. Luckily we spotted this problem right away, and instead of sending it back with a stern letter, we just sent the letter, but kept the infested unit, placed it way out in the backyard hoping the Missouri heat and sunshine would get to them, and hoped for the best.
As you probably already predicted, the bugs have survived this attack and have retreated to the dark innards of both sections of the boxes.
We have thought about stripping all the wrappings off and then taking it to the carwash to wash out what we could, and then spray it with something. I would hate to just throw this away and am hoping that I can for sure eradicate this infestation... or these are not coming into my house.
What would you do?

Nuke it from space. It's the only way to be sure.

For real though heat is about the only thing to kill them and if it's in your house now you have a big enough problem that you may want to speak with a lawyer.

 

[MochaBud]

It seems that there is a subject that is best not to bring up around me. Pot or pot genetics.

Through almost everything else in life I am pretty quiet. Ask me one little question about pot and I will ramble for hours if not stopped. I am beginning to consider it like binge talking LMAO. At least in the right situation anyway.

Pretty sure it is because I don't get to talk about it very often. Once the right person asks one simple question I will ramble of as much info as I can before they change the subject LMAO.

Am I the only one with this affliction?

Wassup @Jackalope no your not the only one my wife says when the subject comes up...she see's my eyes light up and I'll throw my 2 cents in about something or other and people will ask 'How do you know about that?" ...Uhm I read alot

 

[MochaBud]

I would bet that in a plastic bag on top of a black tarp, one could heat those boxes up to a right toasty temperature in the sun, ala mother nature.

I have grand children around a lot...so just like my unlucky grow in the C99 x Blueberry Fast: Pheno Hunting & Comparison Grow Featuring Alaskan Purple where they had hidden nanners...I chopped and sprayed and scrubbed...I recommend not taking chances for even one living bug...burn it now!!!

 

[Barney86]

You only have to heat them up that much? That would be easy. I found it amusing how fast they die in direct sunlight, but infuriating how good they are at getting away from that sunlight in furniture

Nah that's only 48*c. No chance that would kill them.
Item number 2 I mentioned was a steam cleaner. Gotta up close and personal. The eggs can withstand something rediculous like 60*c so steam is the only option to get rid of those.

The eggs are also immune to insecticides, even the best of the best that I'd advise. And it's a hit or miss if the residuals get them when they eventually emerge.
No1, that i thought you'd have was diatomaceous earth.
Need loads of the shit to spray all over the place though. Every corner,crevice, crack, join, nook or cranny that they've been sat near.
Won't kill the big ones but great for the freshly emerged.

Again though,all this depends on the contact that I asked about but honestly it's go hard or go home with these feckers. No easy fixes Im afraid unless you get really lucky. .

Even when I had all the gear and done it 100% the best I could I still got 2 callbacks for failed treatment in a year. Maybe done 350-450 rooms all in.
I got lucky and the callbacks were insurance Jobs.
If they'd been any other payment method id've been sacked the second time.

I done a lot more than just nuke the place.
Plug sockets off the walls,
Carpets lifted,
Light fittings removed,
Bgged and tagged all the clothes myself for propper cleaning,
Took the units and wardrobes apart.
Methodicaly, high pressure steam cleaned every inch of everything,
Left a layer of insecticides that when raw could probably kill a rhino,
Covered every crack in d/e,
Disposed of the matress and I still missed at least one!

You gotta be lethal with them.

Even for a professional it's hard to do it In one sitting. Especially in an occupied space.

The chems used for bed bugs are honestly lethal.
No kids
No old folks
No pets of any sort
Nobody suffering from anything even vaguely serious. Particularly respiratory diseases or the usual suspects .

Typed this about 2 hours ago and just back on so posting without an edit lol.