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grimlyman

grimlyman

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I think I have figured out what has caused these plants to go as they are.
The photo of the good plants are in the same environment, but are planted in a premium potting mix as compared to the others. the temps are quite high but not extreme.
so what do you think has made the fucked up plants go like this?.
Isa there a worst plant comp lol
 
Is it possible that this plant had started to flower and then went back to veg mode? I have seen strange looking reveged plants.
 
Are you giving all the plants nutrients? Including the ones in the "premium" potting mix? It might be burn. It also looks like it has had most of it's growth cut off at one point and it's trying to come back from that? Did you go a little overboard with the topping? If you did, the root ball will be much larger in proportion to the plants foliage and, because of that, will be able to uptake nutrients much faster than the plant actually needs, so you will likely need to flush your medium or start giving it plain water for a week or two. When you start feeding again, start at alot lower strength than you think you need, and slowly work up to a normal strength as the plant gets bigger.

Also, that potting mix looks very dense to me. That could be taking part in the issues you're having
 
yes to nutrients, I thought it was burn at first, yeah I did cut of the bad bits that I didn't think would come back, as the stems were quite swollen, the potting mix only looks dense in the photo.
What happened was, I thought the plants had nutrient burn to so I flushed them with tap water and I forgot about them for an hour or so, dumb arse that I am, the water was way to cold, and our water has a high ph, the next day the 4 plants had all drooped and were looking very sad. after a few days some of the branches started to come back, and the ones that looked like they wouldn't got the chop.
So I am thinking it was a combination of the soil ph was way to high to start with, and that they had a phosphorus deficiency ( the lower leaves showed the symptoms of this) and the overwatering when I flushed them, and that only enhanced the ph problem.
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nope they were just feminised white widow, this is my third batch of WW and I have to say that they are not an easy strain to grow, really susceptible to nute burn
 
Pretty off base on that one... minus reps for me I guess- wah. I would still kiss my girlfriend under it at Christmas time- I mean if times... let's say- were tight and we couldn't afford the real mistletoe, or whatever. You know. But I've kissed my girl in lots of places. I mean uh locations. It doesn't take much for that to happen. Plus reps on the skill testing question and the cool looking plants :thumb:
 
Ok I'm back- it took me a long time to find this thread again. If you're still around grimlyman can you please tell me more about your experiences with WW?
There are a Lot of versions of it and I don't know what they have in common, but it can't hurt to ask. My version is from Seedsman. I get the feeling it's a very light feeder, but- as always- the answer to the problem is not totally clear. I'll PM you too- in case that helps rouse you. Cheers
 
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when I think back the first WW grow I did where relatively trouble free, have a look at ( Wonder if anyone will read this) thread.
all of the ones in vege are WW ecept for the one White Rhino, in those pics there is a bit of yellowing. But I am prob not the best to give advice. just make sure you that it is nute burn, I thought that at first with the grow im doing now it was nute burn, but now I think it was crap potting mix that I was using, and that they were deficient in Phosphorous,as well as high ph, I changed to a different liquid fert that had a higher K and P and lower N. N-5 P-8 K-12 , and they are now looking heaps better than the were, Maybe its not nute burn you have, try only giving one plant a little more fert, or change to a liquid fert with roughly the same NPK as I said earlier. this is a pic of the WW now,
Also check out the 'plant abuse' page on here. Is that nute burn on pic 1 ? on the older leaves, the new growth is looking heaps better, after I applied more fert once a fortnight.
The last pic shows a sick leaf but am sure that's not nute burn.
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bloody pics are all over the place, the first pic is the beginning of the symptoms, the next two are of how they are now, one of the new growth and one of the older growth.
Oh yeah and they had spider mites, but I got them fuckers.
 
Thanks man for replying. I think I have a combination of things going on. Whatever it is- the WW (I only had one in flower out of 8 largish plants) seems to be the only one that is being so fussy. I do think nute burn is one of the problems - even though the WW has been getting fed less and less as it continues to act up.
I see that your WW has the same leaf shape as mine- very distinctive from anything else I'm growing. That's interesting and sort of encouraging to see somehow. Like maybe there is still really such a thing as a White Widow and it's not just a name.
I put another WW into flower to continue to try to get to the bottom of this. Have some good help with it too so eventually I'll figure it out.
Here's what she looks like now, only a bit worse :)

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I see some similarities to your upper pic- especially the cupped and burnt leaves.
I also have a sneaking suspicion that my ph has been creeping upwards in the soil. I'll be testing this better when I get back to the grow. Usually canoeing in the leaves is from heat stress, but my temps haven't been high enough to warrant that. It can also occur from high ph too. If so, the WW is more susceptible than my other plants.
 
They are pretty much identicle to my last grow, some guy said they were taco leaves, and that was heat stress apparently.
But they look like will have some nice heads anyway. I think you are on the right track with the ph. so good luck
 
Thanks man. Yes- the taco effect is pretty well always attributed to heat stress. Since my temps haven't been past the low 80s- the strain is either super sensitive to heat- or there is somethng else causing the curling. High ph is one possibility. If I ever get a clear answer I'll post it on here just for the sake of follow-up
 

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